Truly flameworthy opinions, please

[leancuisine]

Feb 20, 2014 13:31:18 GMT -5 wanderlustfoodie said:

Since we're talking about animals, I love animals and feel immense maternal attachment and warm, fuzzy feelings with respect to random animals. As I've previously mentioned, my dream would be to live on a farm in the Hudson Valley with a bunch of animals. On the flipside, I feel none of those warm, fuzzy feelings whenever I'm around my dear friends' children. That said, MH has purported to be ready for a child for over a year now and at a certain point in the not-too-distant future (thanks a lot, health complication) I'm going to have to figure out whether to acquiesce to his polite nagging and join the land of the breeders. I feel somewhat confident I would be a "good" mother, I just don't know if I want to be a mother. I have started "lurking" on the MMM boards just to see if that pushes me one way or the other but so far I'm still decidedly uncertain.

Haven't read any replies to this, but I feel this exact way, down to my H nagging. I think I would be a good mom, but having a baby still scares the crap out of me. I don't know if I'll ever feel ready.

[rootbeerfloat]

Feb 20, 2014 16:22:13 GMT -5 havarti said:

Feb 20, 2014 16:15:42 GMT -5 @applesauce said:

can we make Spoiler Albert a thing please?

Damnit!  I forgot I was going to comment on that before getting sucked into the rest of the thread!  YES, PLEASE!!!!

It sounds like naughty piercing. So definitely, yes!

[stealthmom]

Feb 20, 2014 9:10:56 GMT -5 emilyinchile said:

Feb 20, 2014 8:57:09 GMT -5 v said:

I have no interest in ever going to an AI resort or on a Caribbean or Mediterranean cruise (or what-have-you). For many reasons, but the primary reason is thatI wouldn't want to spend a week with the crowd that enjoys AI resorts or Caribbean or Mediterranean cruises.

This is why we went to one of the most expensive AIs in the DR over Christmas. I figured it would weed out the fanny pack-wearers It worked, and we ended up really liking it! We met people who primarily vacation at AIs and who weren't very interested in learning about or experiencing the destinations they visit (which I judge on its own), but they were otherwise fine people to chat with at the pool bar.

I'm sure someone find its flameful that I look down on a lack of curiosity about the world, but I don't think it's flameful enough for this thread's requirements.

that's not what is flameful.

What is potentially flameful (or really just ignorant) is assuming all people who visit ai's aren't curious about the world. Sure some might not go on another kind of vacation but I'm sure lots are interested in all kinds of trips. Not to mention that for a lot of people simply going to a foreign ai is really stretching their comfort zones and ideally those people should be encouraged to travel more, not shamed.

Eta- sorry. Didn't realize this thread was 15 pages.

[grosnl19]

Feb 20, 2014 16:22:26 GMT -5 rbp said:

Feb 20, 2014 13:31:18 GMT -5 wanderlustfoodie said:

Since we're talking about animals, I love animals and feel immense maternal attachment and warm, fuzzy feelings with respect to random animals. As I've previously mentioned, my dream would be to live on a farm in the Hudson Valley with a bunch of animals. On the flipside, I feel none of those warm, fuzzy feelings whenever I'm around my dear friends' children. That said, MH has purported to be ready for a child for over a year now and at a certain point in the not-too-distant future (thanks a lot, health complication) I'm going to have to figure out whether to acquiesce to his polite nagging and join the land of the breeders. I feel somewhat confident I would be a "good" mother, I just don't know if I want to be a mother. I have started "lurking" on the MMM boards just to see if that pushes me one way or the other but so far I'm still decidedly uncertain.

I still don't know if I want to be a mom. Guess I don't have much of a choice now.  :-#

This is how I felt up until DD was a few months old. Now I think she is the best thing that ever happened :-)

[mbcdefg]

I'm having a Target Gift Card moment because I got a $50 Macy's gift card for Christmas and have no idea what to use it for.

I went at lunch to try on some coats and I was too fat for the few that I liked. I'm not interested in shoes. I found some decent earrings but it feels stupid to blow $50 on one pair of earrings. I'm not loving any of the bags, even then ones where I'd spend $50-100 OOP for them.

And it's flameworthy because the person who gave me the gift card usually gives me cash for Christmas, and I was disappointed to get a GC this year. Especially since the $50 would've been long gone by now.

Also because I just know that I'll wind up sitting on the GC a while, then I'll spend it when someone's birthday is coming up because I need to get them a gift, and then I'll be pissed that I didn't get anything for myself. And also because I feel like Macy's stuff is pretty crappy, whereas years ago I thought Macy's was the shit.

[rbp]

Feb 20, 2014 13:46:44 GMT -5 lasagnasshole said:

I am trying not to use any sick or annual leave so I can stockpile it for a future maternity leave. But I have a feeling one night next week is going to turn crazy and result in me calling in sick from being hungover. Proof that maybe I'm not ready to need a maternity leave anyway. LOL.

I don't think I ever went more than a week without a drink from college until I got knocked up. I was NOT prepared for this forced detox.  :?

[Beeps (WOT?*)]

Feb 20, 2014 11:10:27 GMT -5 lasagnasshole said:

Feb 20, 2014 11:03:55 GMT -5 y4m said:

I'm of the opinion that all dogs should be treated as unfriendly until proven otherwise--by other owners and especially by children and parents!

Just understand that if taking your dog off leash means he's more friendly, but that he's going to approach my unfriendly dog uncontrolled, then you've taken your problem and made it my problem.

I have come very close to being bitten by at least 4 off leash dogs. Or maybe they just wanted to play. I don't know know what the fuck a dog that was charging at me was going to do.

I have also almost run over one on my bike that darted in front of the bike path.

If I fall off my bike and get hurt because your dog ran in front of me, I will sue your ass faster than you can blink. TRUST.

Your dog is your problem. Do not make it my problem. You are not more important than everybody else.

Off leash dogs are up there with unsalted sidewalks that make me rage out. THERE ARE RULES. THIS ISN'T NAM. And you are not special enough to get to break the rules. NOPE.

Just to be safe, make sure you hit the dog, or are willing to testify that you hit the dog, before you fell.  Some states are all "No collision means no collection" in PI. 

I want to try the Subway Frito-whatever sandwich just to see how fantastically awful it is.

[rbp]

Feb 20, 2014 14:09:21 GMT -5 niq said:

Feb 20, 2014 12:49:01 GMT -5 niemand88f said:

Brag-opinion: I really don't understand why organic chemistry is so hard for otherwise-intelligent people. I didn't even major in chemistry (took it because I thought I might do pre-med), and it was a total breeze for me. No, I didn't have an easy teacher - my professor told me she had to throw out my grades when curving the class scores because I got 95-100 on every test while the next highest was in the low 80's. What's so hard about just remembering & applying the rules?

No direct experience, but a classmate of mine who was double neuroscience/computer science and took all the med school prereqs said something similar. He said people approach orgo as brute force memorization, which is what makes it intense. But if you can understand the rules and apply them, it's a lot less work.

I'm sure there are other courses this applies to, but orgo seems to be the highest profile one.

Yes! This is the whole point of orgo!

At some point I will quit commenting on three-page-old posts. LOL

[Deleted]

Feb 20, 2014 9:44:01 GMT -5 v said:

Here's my piece about MMM -- great for pregnancy/parenting-related discussion, but it makes me sad that there are also randoms and confessions threads over there, as well as other discussions that really have nothing to do with child-having. I wish those discussions could happen over here instead.  I wish MMM was a place where people went to ask a kid-related question when they had one, like I go to Travel when I have a Travel-related question.  It isn't, and that makes me sad because I miss people (and I miss this board being really active)

Unrelated, but a confession I thought of while on my way to work: my husband and I share tissues 

You guys can't have it both ways. You want the randoms/confessions/UO threads here, but you (collective MM "you") bitched and complained endlessly that there were too many kid-related @ posts. You want to have your cake and eat it too. Not fair.

[Willis Jackson]

Feb 20, 2014 16:30:35 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

I'm having a Target Gift Card moment because I got a $50 Macy's gift card for Christmas and have no idea what to use it for.

I had this problem when I had a $200 gift card to Lord and Taylor. DH and I bought a $20 bag of chocolate covered cashews and ate them while wandering around and looking at the old people clothes. I ended up getting some Spanx and I think DH got a belt or something. So dumb.

[emilyinchile]

Feb 20, 2014 16:24:34 GMT -5 stealthmom said:

Feb 20, 2014 9:10:56 GMT -5 emilyinchile said:

This is why we went to one of the most expensive AIs in the DR over Christmas. I figured it would weed out the fanny pack-wearers It worked, and we ended up really liking it! We met people who primarily vacation at AIs and who weren't very interested in learning about or experiencing the destinations they visit (which I judge on its own), but they were otherwise fine people to chat with at the pool bar.

I'm sure someone find its flameful that I look down on a lack of curiosity about the world, but I don't think it's flameful enough for this thread's requirements.

that's not what is flameful.

What is potentially flameful (or really just ignorant) is assuming all people who visit ai's aren't curious about the world. Sure some might not go on another kind of vacation but I'm sure lots are interested in all kinds of trips. Not to mention that for a lot of people simply going to a foreign ai is really stretching their comfort zones and ideally those people should be encouraged to travel more, not shamed.

Eta- sorry. Didn't realize this thread was 15 pages.

I'm not sure if you kept reading or gave up when you saw how long it was, but 1) that's not what I said in the post you quoted, I was speaking about specific people we met because I talked to them about their travel preferences and 2) I further clarified my point later. But I also know that you and I usually have different opinions, so I'm not surprised we disagree here.

And also  ^o) at the idea I'm somehow responsible for encouraging any one else to travel or do anything else.

[rbp]

Feb 20, 2014 16:00:22 GMT -5 niemand88f said:

Feb 20, 2014 14:09:21 GMT -5 niq said:

No direct experience, but a classmate of mine who was double neuroscience/computer science and took all the med school prereqs said something similar. He said people approach orgo as brute force memorization, which is what makes it intense. But if you can understand the rules and apply them, it's a lot less work.

I'm sure there are other courses this applies to, but orgo seems to be the highest profile one.

That's kind of what confuses me is that I don't think it's fundamentally different from physics or gen chem, but people who did well in those classes would struggle a lot in o chem. Maybe incoming students are just terrified by everyone claiming it's so hard . There are so many different strategies you can use to study that can be tailored to almost any learning style - memorization, physical or computer models, flash cards, diagrams, practice problems...

General chemistry and physics are math based. With the way these classes are taught at many institutions, students can get a B by being really good at solving word problems (i.e., plugging numbers into an equation) without having a good handle on the concepts. Since undergraduate-level organic chemistry isn't mathematical at all, that crutch isn't there. If you don't get the concepts, you fail. 

[rbp]

Feb 20, 2014 16:06:35 GMT -5 schrodinger said:

Feb 20, 2014 16:00:22 GMT -5 niemand88f said:

That's kind of what confuses me is that I don't think it's fundamentally different from physics or gen chem, but people who did well in those classes would struggle a lot in o chem. Maybe incoming students are just terrified by everyone claiming it's so hard . There are so many different strategies you can use to study that can be tailored to almost any learning style - memorization, physical or computer models, flash cards, diagrams, practice problems...

And this is why MM gets a reputation for being boring.

Thus says schrodinger. 

[Deleted]

Feb 20, 2014 10:04:42 GMT -5 @tokenhoser said:

I like MMM because it's boring. I avoid MM and ML because I'm just not up to being flamed, and my stream-of-consciousness posts inevitably lead to me being flamed. I'm too tired to have a thick skin.

I'm apparently an uptight prude, because I can't handle all the cursing and nasty sex talk on ML. I lurk there sometimes, and feel like I'm going to get herpes just from reading it.

[mrssandro]

Feb 20, 2014 16:35:56 GMT -5 @supergreen said:

Feb 20, 2014 9:44:01 GMT -5 v said:

Here's my piece about MMM -- great for pregnancy/parenting-related discussion, but it makes me sad that there are also randoms and confessions threads over there, as well as other discussions that really have nothing to do with child-having. I wish those discussions could happen over here instead.  I wish MMM was a place where people went to ask a kid-related question when they had one, like I go to Travel when I have a Travel-related question.  It isn't, and that makes me sad because I miss people (and I miss this board being really active)

Unrelated, but a confession I thought of while on my way to work: my husband and I share tissues 

You guys can't have it both ways. You want the randoms/confessions/UO threads here, but you (collective MM "you") bitched and complained endlessly that there were too many kid-related @ posts. You want to have your cake and eat it too. Not fair.

[rbp]

Feb 20, 2014 16:18:46 GMT -5 @supergreen said:

Feb 20, 2014 9:18:40 GMT -5 katieb4tom said:

I hate the MMM board. I have a kid and I think its sooo boring to just talk about babies and baby related things all day. It bums me out though b/c I think the MM/MMM split really did destroy the MM board, which has gotten really dull. I think there are definitely posters sticking solely to MMM who made the MM board more interesting. Can I start a movement to rejoin the two?

My flameworthy opinion is that this MMM does not want to rejoin MM. The main board is really dull, so I just lurk her when I've read all of MMMs. I think FICO scores, talking about retirement, and loans are just about the most boring subjects imaginable.

You guys can't have it both ways. You want the randoms/confessions/UO threads here, but you (collective MM "you") bitched and complained endlessly that there were too many kid-related @ posts. You want to have your cake and eat it too.

I think kids are boring as fuck.

[MadamePresident]

Feb 20, 2014 16:22:26 GMT -5 rbp said:

Feb 20, 2014 13:31:18 GMT -5 wanderlustfoodie said:

Since we're talking about animals, I love animals and feel immense maternal attachment and warm, fuzzy feelings with respect to random animals. As I've previously mentioned, my dream would be to live on a farm in the Hudson Valley with a bunch of animals. On the flipside, I feel none of those warm, fuzzy feelings whenever I'm around my dear friends' children. That said, MH has purported to be ready for a child for over a year now and at a certain point in the not-too-distant future (thanks a lot, health complication) I'm going to have to figure out whether to acquiesce to his polite nagging and join the land of the breeders. I feel somewhat confident I would be a "good" mother, I just don't know if I want to be a mother. I have started "lurking" on the MMM boards just to see if that pushes me one way or the other but so far I'm still decidedly uncertain.

I still don't know if I want to be a mom. Guess I don't have much of a choice now.  :-#

I always wanted kids until I first found out I was pregnant. Then I had a bit of a freak out where I didn't want to have a child and wanted to do whatever without considering a baby. I got over it and enjoy my daughter a lot.

[msmerymac]

I have no desire to ever go to the Caribbean. I can't think of a place in the world I would enjoy less, in general.

[niemand88f]

Feb 20, 2014 16:40:32 GMT -5 rbp said:

Feb 20, 2014 16:00:22 GMT -5 niemand88f said:

That's kind of what confuses me is that I don't think it's fundamentally different from physics or gen chem, but people who did well in those classes would struggle a lot in o chem. Maybe incoming students are just terrified by everyone claiming it's so hard . There are so many different strategies you can use to study that can be tailored to almost any learning style - memorization, physical or computer models, flash cards, diagrams, practice problems...

General chemistry and physics are math based. With the way these classes are taught at many institutions, students can get a B by being really good at solving word problems (i.e., plugging numbers into an equation) without having a good handle on the concepts. Since undergraduate-level organic chemistry isn't mathematical at all, that crutch isn't there. If you don't get the concepts, you fail. 

That makes more sense actually... a good argument for keeping it as a pre-med requirement! (I've seen people argue that it should be dropped)

[msmerymac]

Feb 20, 2014 16:41:23 GMT -5 @champagna said:

Feb 20, 2014 16:35:56 GMT -5 @supergreen said:

Wait, WHAT?! Like, you blow your nose into a tissue and then he'll use it, too? OMG. lolol

What I don't get is that a tissue is a one-time use thing. Like, even *I* can't use the same tissue twice, so how is someone else supposed to use it? Sometimes I even need to use TWO tissues. 

[mrssandro]

Feb 20, 2014 16:44:40 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

I have no desire to ever go to the Caribbean. I can't think of a place in the world I would enjoy less, in general.

Blasphemy! 

I was just thinking about the Virgin Islands and dreaming I was there. 

[rbp]

Feb 20, 2014 16:46:14 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Feb 20, 2014 16:41:23 GMT -5 @champagna said:

Wait, WHAT?! Like, you blow your nose into a tissue and then he'll use it, too? OMG. lolol

What I don't get is that a tissue is a one-time use thing. Like, even *I* can't use the same tissue twice, so how is someone else supposed to use it? Sometimes I even need to use TWO tissues. 

I'll use the same tissue all day long if my nose is just drippy and I'm not blowing wads of mucus into it. 

Ok, I'm being gross now. 

[rbp]

I am dying to go to an AI in the Caribbean.

[sparkythelawyer]

We went on a Carnival Cruise for our honeymoon in May and loved every second of it. Totally ok with some fanny-pack wearin' pre-paid, AI fun over here :-)

I think if you are not going to help your kid pay for college in the US these days, you don't get to be surprised when they're still living with you at 27 with no degree in sight.

I think the only people who really find any sort of validity on standardized tests are the people who did well on them.

I'm so glad I never took organic chem having watched my husband try to slog through two semesters of it.

My parents forbade me from taking Physics in High School.

[msmerymac]

Feb 20, 2014 16:47:22 GMT -5 mrssandro said:

Feb 20, 2014 16:44:40 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

I have no desire to ever go to the Caribbean. I can't think of a place in the world I would enjoy less, in general.

Blasphemy! 

I was just thinking about the Virgin Islands and dreaming I was there. 

No. I just think how about how sweaty I would be and how many people I would offend by the fact that I would be wearing very little clothing. 

Plus I have dry eyes and squinting makes them worse, so I would be wearing sunglasses all the time, and then they'd get sweat on them and... yeah. 

Plus, and this is really flame-worthy, I can't think of any cultural component to the Virgin Islands I wish to experience. At least Mexico, sweaty as it may be, has great architecture and history and food. VI, Bermuda, Aruba, etc just seem to have been dropped in the middle of the ocean so people have a place to sit on the beach, eating resort food and drinking overly sweet blended cocktails. 

Well... I would travel to Cuba if I could. I find that to be interesting.

[mbcdefg]

Feb 20, 2014 16:44:40 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

I have no desire to ever go to the Caribbean. I can't think of a place in the world I would enjoy less, in general.

Me neither.

[mrssandro]

Feb 20, 2014 16:52:01 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Feb 20, 2014 16:47:22 GMT -5 mrssandro said:

Blasphemy! 

I was just thinking about the Virgin Islands and dreaming I was there. 

No. I just think how about how sweaty I would be and how many people I would offend by the fact that I would be wearing very little clothing. 

Plus I have dry eyes and squinting makes them worse, so I would be wearing sunglasses all the time, and then they'd get sweat on them and... yeah. 

Plus, and this is really flame-worthy, I can't think of any cultural component to the Virgin Islands I wish to experience. At least Mexico, sweaty as it may be, has great architecture and history and food. VI, Bermuda, Aruba, etc just seem to have been dropped in the middle of the ocean so people have a place to sit on the beach, eating resort food and drinking overly sweet blended cocktails. 

Well... I would travel to Cuba if I could. I find that to be interesting.

I have always wanted to go to Cuba. I wish I was Canadian just so I could go. 

St Lucia has culture and it's beautiful. So don't discount all the islands. Virgin islands is very Americanized from what I understand. But I still want to see it one day. 

[stealthmom]

Feb 20, 2014 16:40:23 GMT -5 emilyinchile said:

Feb 20, 2014 16:24:34 GMT -5 stealthmom said:

that's not what is flameful.

What is potentially flameful (or really just ignorant) is assuming all people who visit ai's aren't curious about the world. Sure some might not go on another kind of vacation but I'm sure lots are interested in all kinds of trips. Not to mention that for a lot of people simply going to a foreign ai is really stretching their comfort zones and ideally those people should be encouraged to travel more, not shamed.

Eta- sorry. Didn't realize this thread was 15 pages.

I'm not sure if you kept reading or gave up when you saw how long it was, but 1) that's not what I said in the post you quoted, I was speaking about specific people we met because I talked to them about their travel preferences and 2) I further clarified my point later. But I also know that you and I usually have different opinions, so I'm not surprised we disagree here.

And also   at the idea I'm somehow responsible for encouraging any one else to travel or do anything else.

thanks for the clarification. I don't have the time for 15 pages.

I didn't mean to suggest that anyone is responsible for anyone else but that it would simply be a nice thing, as someone who values travel, to encourage others to do the same, as opposed to shaming them. It reminds me of when anka shamed people who feel proud of themselves for running a 5k b/c she thinks 5ks aren't shit. I just don't get the nastiness about something you value.

[Deleted]

I love AI resorts. I'm going to one with my family in May and I can't wait. I come back from an AI vacation well rested and feeling like I had a vacation. When I got back from my sightseeing vacation last September, I felt like I had lost my damned mind, I was sick, exhausted, my feet were cracked and blistered, and it took me weeks to get my head back to normal.

I had the time of my life and would love to do it again, but it wasn't a "vacation" in the true sense of the word. I think my ideal would be if I could do one crazy sightseeing vacation and one "sit on my ass and drink bottomless drinks for a week" each year. Unless I can take more than 2 vacations, of course, then I'd do more sightseeing! But I think there is definitely a place for both.

[Deleted]

I'm opening a can of worms here, but I really want an update from the regular poster who used an AE to contemplate cheating on her husband. Remember that? It was right before Christmas and I wonder what happened?