Haven't read the thread but WHAT.THE.FUCK. This is not a friend. I let too many assholes be assholes to me under the cover of honesty. Kindness is not overrated, miso. You shouldn't accept this. I'm serious.
"Why would you ruin perfectly good peanuts by adding candy corn? That's like saying hey, I have these awesome nachos, guess I better add some dryer lint." - Nonny
I didn't realize that you changed careers and are now a Victoria's Secret model. I mean...I can't really think of other careers that you get ahead by looking a certain way.
I think Miso's friend was out of line, and not very friendly. But we are kidding ourselves if we believe this is true. Of course how one looks plays a role in advancement. Not fair, but reality.
Miso, I'm sorry your friend hurt you even if unintentional.
Post by miniroller on Mar 17, 2015 18:33:31 GMT -5
She is sort of rude. Well, blunt. Like I am. We are very alike, although my other co-workers swear that my bluntness is delicately laced with humor and a tad more sensitivity. ----Miso quote above-----
Ok I'm thinking she's a MisoWannabe & is trying to emulate the endearing, charismatic way in which you display your bluntness. B/c she's envious of this skill that you have mastered, she decided to drop a thinly veiled insult, disguised by her blundering bluntness.
Post by cinderbella on Mar 17, 2015 18:36:42 GMT -5
I think you're funny and pretty and most of all I love how your confidence shines through. I'm sorry her words have hurt you - I would have been in tears.
Friends can get away with saying certain things but I think she crossed the line - even if there were good intentions behind it.
I didn't realize that you changed careers and are now a Victoria's Secret model. I mean...I can't really think of other careers that you get ahead by looking a certain way.
I think Miso's friend was out of line, and not very friendly. But we are kidding ourselves if we believe this is true. Of course how one looks plays a role in advancement. Not fair, but reality.
Miso, I'm sorry your friend hurt you even if unintentional.
Yeah, there are a ton of studies that show more attractive people are more successful. But miso doesn't look like a haggard troll. I'm pretty sure she doesn't dress poorly. I think she's beautiful and I'd never look at her as someone who's looks are holding them back. She looks professional, clean, pleasant.
I didn't realize that you changed careers and are now a Victoria's Secret model. I mean...I can't really think of other careers that you get ahead by looking a certain way.
I think Miso's friend was out of line, and not very friendly. But we are kidding ourselves if we believe this is true. Of course how one looks plays a role in advancement. Not fair, but reality.
Miso, I'm sorry your friend hurt you even if unintentional.
Post by spedrunner on Mar 17, 2015 18:43:42 GMT -5
seriously, i dont get it. People just need to shut up , she isnt being helpful You were not asking for her input or advice. You are happy and healthy and look great
Like I tell my students "Worry about YOURSELF" co worker should stop by my classroom....
I think Miso's friend was out of line, and not very friendly. But we are kidding ourselves if we believe this is true. Of course how one looks plays a role in advancement. Not fair, but reality.
Miso, I'm sorry your friend hurt you even if unintentional.
Have you seen miso? She's gorgeous.
Wait, I'm not saying the friend had a point, and Miso needs to change/improve all those things.
I'm just saying that believing that the only job where you get ahead by looking a certain way is the job of underwear model is wrong.
Post by RoxMonster on Mar 17, 2015 18:49:18 GMT -5
But I feel like part of being a successful person who can really go far is that you have tact and grace and can be straightforward without being rude. I think having class makes you go far as well. Of course, being put together, not being a slob, dressing appropriately and keeping yourself looking presentable for the job are also important, but I would argue that being classy is just as, if not more, important.
And I don't mean being demure. I think you HAVE to be willing to be up front, even maybe brutally honest at times, to make it in a lot of jobs. But I think she crossed that line into just downright rude and hurtful.
Wait, I'm not saying the friend had a point, and Miso needs to change/improve all those things.
I'm just saying that believing that the only job where you get ahead by looking a certain way is the job of underwear model is wrong.
Okay, but coaching on physical appearance (aside, perhaps, from encouraging more professional attire) has no place in the workplace, nor does it have a place in friendship, especially unsolicited.
This had nothing to do with helping miso get ahead. It was just shitty.
Wait, I'm not saying the friend had a point, and Miso needs to change/improve all those things.
I'm just saying that believing that the only job where you get ahead by looking a certain way is the job of underwear model is wrong.
Okay, but coaching on physical appearance (aside, perhaps, from encouraging more professional attire) has no place in the workplace, nor does it have a place in friendship, especially unsolicited.
This had nothing to do with helping miso get ahead. It was just shitty.
100% agree. The quote I initially quoted said (to paraphrase), "I didn't know you were and underwear model, bc there is not other job where how you look helps you get ahead."
I was simply disagreeing with that statement. I think you're stretching to imply that I am supporting what Miso's friend said/did.
I didn't realize that you changed careers and are now a Victoria's Secret model. I mean...I can't really think of other careers that you get ahead by looking a certain way.
I think Miso's friend was out of line, and not very friendly. But we are kidding ourselves if we believe this is true. Of course how one looks plays a role in advancement. Not fair, but reality.
Miso, I'm sorry your friend hurt you even if unintentional.
Sure, but Miso is ALREADY lovely, attractive, and well kempt. For example, have you seen her smile?
I think Miso's friend was out of line, and not very friendly. But we are kidding ourselves if we believe this is true. Of course how one looks plays a role in advancement. Not fair, but reality.
Miso, I'm sorry your friend hurt you even if unintentional.
Sure, but Miso is ALREADY lovely, attractive, and well kempt. For example, have you seen her smile?
Yeah, she has what is commonly referred to as a "megawatt" smile.
And look, unsolicited advice for how to move up, especially when she just started working for this employer, is to say the least, poorly timed imho.
And putting on my teacher hat, this is a teachable moment for her. If she does value your friendship, you telling her that her delivery was harsh will hopefully cause her to evaluate herself (and look in her truth mirror).
What she said shouldn't really be said to people. It's upsetting, rightly so. I don't think your bluntness is anything comparable to what she said to you.
I had this happen to me once but I didn't ask for advice. A group of three women said I was frumpy, wasn't wearing the right bra, not enough bronzer, and so on. I cried so hard that night.
In other news, I've lost weight, my skin is awesome, I like my MU and embraced my pale skin. I went to a nordstrom bra fitting (had been planning to). Two of the three are fatter and bitchier than before. So there's that.
I had this happen to me once but I didn't ask for advice. A group of three women said I was frumpy, wasn't wearing the right bra, not enough bronzer, and so on. I cried so hard that night.
In other news, I've lost weight, my skin is awesome, I like my MU and embraced my pale skin. I went to a nordstrom bra fitting (had been planning to). Two of the three are fatter and bitchier than before. So there's that.
I clearly win. And I'm awesome. So there's that.
That person is an asshole
Lol at not enough bronzer.
I like that I can actually see that he has an accent by how he says "beautiful".