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[abbandkaa]

It's obvious tonight Becky's entire game is to blow up other people's games. That is almost worse than being a floater.

[oscarnerdjulief]

Becky's probably going to go this week. Vanessa's likely going to be safe this week and next unless John wins HOH. I bet Julia or Austin will chicken out on getting her out if they win HOH, plus they will look at the numbers and conclude that they have to wait another week, esp. if they think that one of the first four out may be coming back.

I guess Steve is already talking endgame, saying ideally he'd be with Meg at the end because she can't win. I'm not sure I am buying Steve's "evil genius" posing. I don't think he has everything planned out in his mind. Sometimes he makes stupid decisions and then tries to cover for them later.

I don't know what I'd rather see happen next wk: Vanessa leave or Liz/Julia.

[abbandkaa]

BYE BECKY!!! I won't be sorry to see her go, nor Steve, Meg, glad Jackie's already gone. At this point, the order in which they go doesn't matter much, but soon enough it will start to matter.

I do suppose we're going to see one of the twins in the final 2, unless they really screw it up between now and then.

[osumelissa]

I didn't think I would say this when the season started two months ago, but I want John to win the whole thing.

[oscarnerdjulief]

I would be happy with John or James winning. I think I'd be alright with Steve and Austin winning.

I really don't want any of the girls to win, but I guess I'd pick Vanessa because she's really played the game. Meg's useless. It's hard for me to understand why people on Jokers love Meg when they disliked Victoria. Both were dragged to the end-what's the difference? (I guess it's that Victoria was more of a princess type.)

I would not be shocked if Becky came back in the house. Shelli returning concerns me because she is so annoying and would get out James, one of the few people I like.

[oscarnerdjulief]

It is baffling to me that Steve/Johnny Mac and James/Meg are going after each other when there's a solid threesome still in the game. At this rate, Austin/Liz/Julia will be final three. Yuck. Julia, like Meg, hasn't done a ---- thing in this game.

Just like someone said on Jokers... Steve and Johnny seem like they're too smart to make the dumb move of going with the twins and Austin to the final five.  Why not take James, someone who never studies for any mental competition, and Meg, who can't win anything, esp. a physical competition?  It seems illogical.  Austin will never cut Julia even if it costs him his game because he wants to keep having sex with Liz.

If Steve and maybe John are superfans, why haven't they realized that there's a big history of a member of a tight duo winning the game?  Or do they consider themselves the tight duo a la Memphis/Dan and Lane/Hayden?  That's possible.

But there are plenty of people who were part of romantic duos who won:  Will (Shannon left early), Lisa (Eric left early), Jun (her ex Jee was in the game), Drew (Diane), Jordan (Jeff), Rachel (Brendon).  Even Hayden had that fling with what's her name.

[osumelissa]

I hope Steve realizes that if he were to stick with Austin/twins/Vanessa, he is on the bottom of that alliance. It is better for him, John, James and Meg to team up. But of course, why would anyone do the rational thing in BB?

[oscarnerdjulief]

I guess Becky and John had a big heart-to-heart. Becky realizes that she is going home. She feels played, like she had people's backs and then they plotted her demise, also mentioning Vanessa and how that was another battle where she sacrificed herself.

I respect Becky more than the twins because they seem so vacant and stupid. Becky was right on in her conversation when she said she can't stand the screaming anymore, that when she was a little girl her mom wouldn't let her scream like that and she can't stand girls that do.

Have to admit I can't stand screaming or baby voices, or the talking in three syllables like they do. (ex: I know-uh.)

[oscarnerdjulief]

I don't care if they win. They're still people I can't stand---following in the long line that includes Allison from BB4 and Porsche from Rachel's season.  Maggie, too.  (The drug dealer Adam from season 9 is in a different category, but that season was weird anyway since it was during the writers' strike.)

Audrey and Clay have mended their differences and are friends now that they're out of the house. They're on Rob Has a Podcast. Audrey was on Evel Dick, too, and is a lot more likable now that she's no longer wreaking havoc on the game.

I'm hoping Johnny Mac wins HOH and puts up Liz and Vanessa. The game has very little interest if the majority wins again tonight. I can't be for the goblins if they go after Johnny Mac and Steve. I haven't read the last two days' feeds so maybe they have re-evaluated and decided not to give the game to psycho Vanessa and the double dumb twins. (I did not make up the latter epithet---it was on FORT.)

[osumelissa]

Ugggh, just read about who wins HOH. This is going to be another boring week.

[oscarnerdjulief]

Yes, I was crushed when I saw that Austin won.

People are really mad at manipulation by Big Brother. I know they've always done it, but it seems counterintuitive when the ratings went up after the "good side" got in power. (Good side = not Austin, twins, Vanessa)

#1 Austin was leaning toward putting Vanessa up big-time. Then Vanessa corralled him for an intense, tear-filled conversation, he changed his mind and boom! Nominations even though they're usually at a different time. Johnny and Steve on the block.

#2 Liz said that the diary room hinted that Steve and Johnny were working together. If dumb Liz got that, I'm assuming the hint was more like out-and-out telling her.

Right now Steve and John are on the block. If one comes off, James will go up. If they don't get out Steve, quite honestly it will bite them on the butt. He's smart and can win that "what event happened on what day." He also can justify putting up Austwins since they put him up.

For Austin, though, it definitely is a better game move getting one of the guys out. Vanessa isn't coming for him and Liz---yet. I am almost sure she'd put them up; not Julia because she probably wants Julia for final two. Vanessa would beat Julia like a drum if they were up against each other.

[oscarnerdjulief]

She might change her mind before the veto ceremony and/or eviction Thursday, but right now Vanessa is talking up Meg as the big time target, a mastermind who should be eliminated. Hope it happens. Steve, John, and James + the returning juror should be able to make a dent in the remains of sixth sense. They need to take out Liz. They get the biggest bang for their buck that way---changing a trio to two singletons. Julia doesn't like Austin.

[abbandkaa]

Aug 23, 2015 19:47:28 GMT -5 oscarnerdjulief said:

She might change her mind before the veto ceremony and/or eviction Thursday, but right now Vanessa is talking up Meg as the big time target, a mastermind who should be eliminated. Hope it happens. Steve, John, and James + the returning juror should be able to make a dent in the remains of sixth sense. They need to take out Liz. They get the biggest bang for their buck that way---changing a trio to two singletons. Julia doesn't like Austin.

I agree with everything here! I haven't been able to watch and won't until Thursday because I'm traveling but stand behind GET LIZ OUT!!

[oscarnerdjulief]

I just despise Liz. I'd grudgingly accept Vanessa winning, because she's played the game---overplayed it, but played it. Liz is totally dumb, another Porsche. (the runner-up on Rachel's season, not the car)

I was hoping that Vanessa's crazy plan to paint Meg as the mastermind, get her up as the replacement nominee, and evict her would work, leaving a solid core of Steve, John, and James to get rid of two of the Austwins. I could see Vanessa thinking several steps ahead and wanting to get Liz and Austin out, leaving her with Julia.

It seems like every time I read Jokers, the twins are saying they hate Johnny Mac, they hate Steve, back and forth. Back and forth. I have no clue what's happening.

By the way, Vanessa is crazy like a fox for saying she'd use the veto, forcing Austin to get even more blood on his hands.  (don't know if she used it or not or if the ceremony has even taken place yet)  Austin will have Steve, Johnny Mac, and possibly the person returning to the game coming after him.

[osumelissa]

The veto was not used. Noms are the same. Pretty sure it will be Johnny Mac walking out the door on Thursday.

Honestly if James or Meg wins HOH on Thursday, they need to nominate Austin and Liz next to each other.

[oscarnerdjulief]

I am about to quit the show. Those infernal idiots think that it's so cute that they might make John and Steve play a game of rock-paper-scissors to determine who goes.

I have to admit that I was galled that dumb Meg, who is weaker than weak and sleeps for 23 hours, was really excited by this plan and pushing for it. Girl is so stupid she couldn't recognize part of her own face in the morph competition. Move over, Victoria. (typical Frankie friend)

[osumelissa]

I am pretty much over this season and want it to end. I haven't found the cast that interesting, Zingbot was a disappointment last night, and the game play is lackluster. No thanks.

[oscarnerdjulief]

Zingbot was boring. The zing against Liz should've been directed against Austin.

I can't believe Johnny Mac with his stupid lack of strategy is back in the game and threw HOH to Vanessa. Yuck. We're now to a tipping point where this thing is over if somebody good's not the next HOH.

James and Meg will be nominated with Steve/John as the backup. It's still too early for Vanessa to go against Austwins.

[abbandkaa]

Vanessa should win it at this point, she has been the mastermind behind every eviction. I don't like how she bullied Steve into a puddle who couldn't even keep his own name straight with her condescending baby talk, it was OTT and I hate her for it, she's awful, just awful, but she has outplayed them all. Austwins have numbers but no sense.

[osumelissa]

Aug 27, 2015 21:28:36 GMT -5 oscarnerdjulief said:

Zingbot was boring. The zing against Liz should've been directed against Austin.

I can't believe Johnny Mac with his stupid lack of strategy is back in the game and threw HOH to Vanessa. Yuck. We're now to a tipping point where this thing is over if somebody good's not the next HOH.

James and Meg will be nominated with Steve/John as the backup. It's still too early for Vanessa to go against Austwins.

Why would he throw the HOH to Vanessa?? Does he want to go right back out the door basically? Or is his plan to have James and Meg nominated, win POV himself, save either james or meg, and then try and get Vanessa to put up one of the twins or Austin? Because unless that is his plan, he is dumb.

[oscarnerdjulief]

John is buying himself some time. In my opinion, Vanessa wants James, Meg, and Liz out in that order. I see Vanessa as creating a strong final three with John and Steve. I agree that she should win if she gets to final two. (John is succeeding despite himself. He's not a good game player.)

Steve/John/Vanessa could wipe the floor with the twins. I'm greedy---I don't want just one Austwin out. I want all three of them out. Steve should draw first blood when he wins a mental comp, like the "what event happened on what day" comp. I assert that Julia and Meg are too stupid and weak to ever win a comp.

James and Meg are just too strategically stupid and are charmed by the Austwins for whatever dumb reason.

I am kinda excited now because I feel like Steve/Vanessa/John could put together some comp wins. That'd be the best final three. James is just a casualty of being disconnected from the game and not knowing what's going on, plus he has an anchor weighing him down.

[oscarnerdjulief]

Aug 28, 2015 11:04:19 GMT -5 osumelissa said:

Aug 27, 2015 21:28:36 GMT -5 oscarnerdjulief said:

Zingbot was boring. The zing against Liz should've been directed against Austin.

I can't believe Johnny Mac with his stupid lack of strategy is back in the game and threw HOH to Vanessa. Yuck. We're now to a tipping point where this thing is over if somebody good's not the next HOH.

James and Meg will be nominated with Steve/John as the backup. It's still too early for Vanessa to go against Austwins.

Why would he throw the HOH to Vanessa?? Does he want to go right back out the door basically? Or is his plan to have James and Meg nominated, win POV himself, save either james or meg, and then try and get Vanessa to put up one of the twins or Austin? Because unless that is his plan, he is dumb.

Vanessa and John were the last two left in the comp, so John bargained for his safety and dropped.  I think John wants the noms to stay the same. He'd be more likely to lose Steve than have Vanessa put up the twins and Austin.

Vanessa was WAY WAY WAY too naive when it came to Liz saying that Steve was the one behind the plan to evict her.  I can't believe she swallowed that so completely.  But Steve couldn't say what a liar Liz was because he was on the block and could've gone had he not been in the twins' good graces.

[oscarnerdjulief]

Something good might happen: Julia as the pawn. Julia vs. Meg, two very worthless players on the block after James won veto.

It'd be nice if Steve and John flipped and voted out Julia, then got Austin/Liz up and out during double eviction.

Steve said during a monologue to live feeders that he would go after Austin and Liz if he won HOH.  I believe JMac would do the same.  They need to take out Liz.

I feel like if Liz goes, Austin would just want to leave for the jury house to be with her.

[oscarnerdjulief]

We had a tease, a brief moment where a flip was imminent, but it's not going to happen unless Steve has a major freakout upon finding out of the DE.

I predict Meg goes out first HOH, then the worst happens: Austwins win, Johnny Mac exits the scene. Sigh.

I want Liz out so badly, so I want a Steve or John HOH win.

[osumelissa]

Well that double eviction episode was pretty anti-climatic.

[oscarnerdjulief]

What an awful DE---so boring. I was afraid that would happen. At least Steve is HOH now, so there's one last shot of the season being decent. He is putting up Austin and Liz, and I think Austin will go.

I can't believe Julia said she won't use veto. Of course she's going to take her sister off the block if she wins, right?

I feel like Steve and John are on borrowed time because of the #s. Steve should be putting up both of the twins and making sure Liz goes. She's the glue that holds it all together.

[oscarnerdjulief]

I am very excited by this development----probably more than anything since Shelli left.

Austin won veto and at least as of this writing is going to use it on himself. Julia will be going on the block, and a twin will be going home. Sorry not sorry, Allison Grodner, your stupid twin twist didn't make it all the way to the end.

I honestly feel, though, like the houseguests are going to evict the wrong twin. Julia's the goat this season. Liz wins comps and must be taken out. Surely, Vanessa can see that she'd win easily against Julia...

Right now Liz is pouting and mad at Austin because he supposedly gloated after winning veto. She and Julia are sore losers. To quote Janelle, "bye bye *****es."

RIP Austwins (hahahahaha)

[abbandkaa]

If Austin won the veto, and Steve has the balls to put up Vanessa to replace him on the block, Steve should win the game. Taking her out via backdoor would be the greatest coup of the season.

[oscarnerdjulief]

Here's what I want to happen. This represents my ideal endgame:

1) Liz and Julia are now on the block. They vote out Liz because she is the strongest competitor and also is the glue that holds Austin and Julia together.
2) Johnny Mac gets HOH and in the move of the entire season gets out Vanessa. (but my problem is figuring out how he does it because no one would vote out Vanessa)

Johnny Mac at that point becomes the obvious F2 choice of everyone left in the house and wins the money. I really want this to happen. I REALLY want this to happen.

Barring that scenario, I see Vanessa, Julia, John final three. Steve goes out next imo if he doesn't win a competition.

I actually now think the wisest long-term move is to take out Julia. That's a reversal of what I have said before. Julia's the goat that will get to final two if they don't take her out now. If Liz stays, she and Austin are the target ahead of everybody else. Liz will probably have to be taken out at some point. Now I get why Johnny Mac wanted to take Julia out----if she goes, he becomes the best option for everybody's final two because they think wrongly that he can't win.

[abbandkaa]

It's dangerous to leave Liz and Austin in it together, sure they'd be targets, but also more competition than any remaining houseguest wants in a physical comp!