I do the car seat in the upside down high chair at restaurants.
/confession
(not my baby)
I can't bring myself to do this after I saw a baby knocked out of one once, seriously I will never get that visual out of my head. I'm not judging anyone that does it, I just can't do it myself bc I'd have anxiety the entire time. Also, my issue is that when we are out, my baby is nosy and wants to be sitting up and looking out at everything lol.
This is why the snap n go was the best thing ever at this age! The handle even folds down, so the whole thing takes up the same amount of space as a chair. I vastly preferred this to a crazy toddler who just wants to be in my lap the whole time. I hate eating out now, with an almost 4yo and 18mo.
Jalapeñomel, it has been almost 15 years since the last time I was in Peru, so I'm no expert. BUT, the best Peruvian place I've tried in NYC (roast chicken aside) is Urubamba in Jackson Heights. Their tacu tacu is divine.
I don't see it. I don't see how him debating that topic has anything to do with him being male or with race. The initial topic had nothing to do with either of those issues. He disagreed with posters, who yes, were both women and in a few cases POC, but his discourse seemed appropriate to me, he was using data to support his case, others were using their experience. Both are valid evidence for supporting one's opinions. I don't see how any of this has anything to do with him being a white dude.
Edit: I should qualify my last sentence. I can see how being a white dude means that he is speaking from a privileged standpoint. But I don't think he was rude or dismissive of anyone, he was just debating the data he had found on the topic.
Pffft + schools are fine I know data, remember the 90s, that's the last time I was at a K-12, kids are fine. + I hear what you're saying, but numbers don't lie ( except they do, that's why America is in this shithole) + I hear what you're saying but someother person's struggle + I hear what you're saying, but if things were bad the numbers would say so + I don't get it , but my numbers, but my google search, I have no true experience with this issue, shhh people who have real field experience, I heard things at a cocktail party and my numbers, and from this little bubbled experience really, I can confidently say the kids are alright because numbers. Wait, I still don't get it after I brushed off people trying to teach me. Wait? I'm a nice guy, I'm a smart guys. Wait, lead, I really feel strongly about lead. The kids are going to be fine. Education is fine, pout, tears, my numbers, facts.
Don't go toe to toe, on things in which you do not know. I don't see it, I don't see it, yeah, that's the problem killing the US education system. People can't see it, shhh people who do see it, then say where's the manipulated data. You just wait POC in shit tastic school situatations, wait your turn we'll get to you once you have numbers. The trees, and Cecil the Lion have numbers. Schools aren't that bad, I heard so at a cocktail party, and I triangulated my biased dated with Google. Plus only Republicans can be racist, would you like a protest Oscar brownie? I'm a nice guy, I share.
Umm, no !
Did Niq have anything to do with the commentary on GBCN about the environment being more important than race (I am presuming that is the lorax link) or discuss Cecil the Lion here? I just don't get what that has to do with him here. Or are you making a larger point about...what? white people in general? I am genuinely confused because I could tell in the thread that you were frustrated with Niq but I just don't get how it became about feminism or racism.
Is it just that a) he wasn't accepting enough of the view points of females in this thread (I really don't get the difference in the sex of who is commenting on what in this thread, frankly), he wasn't accepting enough of the view points of educators in this thread (that makes more sense) or that his view points (and assertions of them) were ignorant of the realities of groups within the education system that are different from his own (as in, not white and high SE).
And I mean, don't go toe to toe on things you don't know? People are always talking about how educators should do things here, it's fairly common place. Every single stakeholder in education thinks they know the right way/best way/only way. Why is this thread any different? Not every educator in this thread disagreed with him, I certainly don't, I firmly believe there is a place for technology in the classroom.
I can see how he could have seen as dismissive of the view points of educators but people were equally dismissive of his points.
Shit niq. Here I thought you were a lover of mass transit and biking with your toddler when in reality you're a climate change truther. Wait, are we talking about cell phones in class?
You can't scapegoat niq as every white person, rich person, and man. It's bizarre and makes people look crazy. Once I got to the pink chair, I decided the whole discussion had gone 100% crazy rant.
I can't bring myself to do this after I saw a baby knocked out of one once, seriously I will never get that visual out of my head. I'm not judging anyone that does it, I just can't do it myself bc I'd have anxiety the entire time. Also, my issue is that when we are out, my baby is nosy and wants to be sitting up and looking out at everything lol.
Oh that's rough. I keep him locked in and/or have my hand on the chair at all times. Going out to eat with Ben was great from like months 9-15 so I'm hoping the same with be with Ethan too.
Yes, I did the upside down highchair thing with DS1 a couple years ago, which I totally knew was a bad idea. And yes, a waiter brushed up against it an knocked the whole shebang over.
Thank goodness he was still strapped in and the handle was up, so no injuries. I aged about 10 years in one restaurant visit. Never again.
I have yet to go because I'm a Peruvian food snob. Peruvian chicken is out of this world good, unlike any place I've had chicken before. Lol
I will say, I don't have a true basis for comparison, but we discovered Pio Pio when my sister was dating a Peruvian man, who took her there. He absolutely loved it.
I have yet to go because I'm a Peruvian food snob. Peruvian chicken is out of this world good, unlike any place I've had chicken before. Lol
I will say, I don't have a true basis for comparison, but we discovered Pio Pio when my sister was dating a Peruvian man, who took her there. He absolutely loved it.
DH and I have dreams of opening a La Lucha here in NYC...we'd make a killing.
Just coming in to say that I appreciate both sides of this technology in education discussion. I empathize with niq because he's taking the same approach I do on such issues: research some data, try to draw some conclusions, and discuss. This is how engineers do things, nothing to do with gender. The privilege of having not been personally involved in some of the worst school situations means that niq and people like me simply don't have the whole picture. But there are only a couple of ways to comprehend more of the picture - the most straightforward and most difficult would be to spend several years teaching each grade level in a variety of schools with different student bodies. Since I don't want to spend 10 years changing careers before offering an opinion, the next method that comes to mind is having a discussion about it. Which is what we're doing. We don't all agree, which seems to be partially due to having different sets of experiences (and gaps in experience). But we're sharing our experiences so that we can all learn from each other and possibly formulate better solutions.
So far, I've learned that although the numbers show schools haven't gotten substantially worse, there are also systemic problems causing the numbers to lie in at least some cases. I've also learned that in some classrooms phones are a huge problem (which seems it could plausibly be an extension of the classic "kids not respecting their teacher" problem), whereas at least one teacher hasn't had any problems with them. My tentative conclusion so far is that problems linked to cell phone usage in schools may be related to the way that school's hands are seemingly more tied than ever on discipline issues due to a combination of weird funding/rating pressures. But maybe I'm wrong, in which case I'd be happy to hear other theories.
I love Pio Pio, but when is NY getting a Nando's? One always makes me think of the other. Tagging v since you always seem to know stuff like this.
The only place I've ever seen a Nando's is London. They have other locations?
Not that I've submitted comments on Nando's website about expanding to NY or anything but as far as I know, no plans for now.
Internationally, they have locations in England, Ireland, South Africa (I believe they're a South African chain) and Australia. They expanded to the US (DC) maybe 5 years ago and have a ton of DC/MD locations now. They're also in Chicago. They tweeted before they opened their Chicago location that SF, Chicago, and Boston were their potential US expansion areas. Not NY
I have not been to Pio Pio or Nando's. And I love chicken. And I/we used to live right around the corner from the UES one and not too far from the Hell's Kitchen location. What is wrong with us? Now I want it too!
It's the same line of bubbled thinking. He's not idiot, I am sure he has good intentions. He's at least looking in the wrong spots to try and debate, or understand, educational gaps, and issues that are driving this country into the ground. Most people won't even do that much, they just close their eyes to whatever is not happening at their immediate school or daycare, NIMBY style. If he were an idiot, dumb, or insensitive, I would've ignored the comments and slight. I don't have time for stupid. It's a weak spot in my character. I can't handle stupid or mediocre. His not those things. He can do better.
Looking back, I think I was too dismissive of first-hand experience at the start of this whole thing. Data and lived experiences are complements to each other, not substitutes. I'm sorry I implied otherwise. In this case it's not you, it's the topic. It gets under my skin, I have no idea why. I'd like to think that no matter who had said something along the line of "the kids these days are so much worse than a generation ago!" I would have said the same thing. It annoys me so much because it comes up every generation -- hippies in the '60s and '70s, then gen X was the slacker generation, Millennials are a bunch of entitled brats who rely on their parents solving all their problems, and I guess the new thing is that teenagers these days (are they still Millennials? I've lost track) are glued to social media. Ten years from now we'll find something else that the kids are doing to complain about -- "now that we have self-driving cars, the kids these days can't go anywhere when it rains out!" or whatever. Often with a dose about complaining about music or TV or video games while we're at it. Sometimes the complaints are aimed at middle class kids, sometimes they're aimed at "inner city" kids (remember the panic about the "knockout game" a few years ago?). And yet somehow the world does not fall apart. There was a crime wave -- that was real, not some conservative plot, and in the '80s and '90s people had real reasons to think it would never end -- but with time and a lot of elbow grease, it did eventually end (though the crime rate is high overall and unacceptably high in a lot of places).
That said, I don't think it's a huge shock that a white liberal Democrat who grew up in Atlanta and moved to Seattle and a black Republican raised & living in Orange County see the world differently. And that's okay. There is probably a long list of things I think are problems that you don't and vice versa; things I think are problems but not "new" problems (I would put "the state of K-12 education in the US" on this list) that you don't and vice versa; and things you think are awesome that I think are terrible and vice versa. That's fine, we'll both survive.
You are probably more aware than I am that we are not going to solve all the inequities in American public education -- or other big problems that one or both of us think are "driving this country into the ground" -- in this thread, so I'll stop there. But I appreciated this post. I had thought you stopped listening and only saw what you wanted to see, but you didn't.
PS Sanders' "shut up about ISIS or BLM or really everything else and let's talk about my plan to break up the big banks and provide Medicare for all" pisses me off too.
also, the pio pio discussion in the midst of all this feels really uncomfortable.
Fine, let's play this game. You know what makes me uncomfortable? How "ethnic" food is somehow dismissed as "not a nice restaurant," therefore, of course it's okay to order chicken there. As if the whole world regularly dines at French Laundry or something and going out to eat, period, isn't some really nice, pretty luxurious thing to do for a lot of people. So a bunch of people come in and legitimize the restaurant I was just talking about and I feel okay, like I'm not the low-class idiot this thread made me feel like at the beginning. But now I'm an ass for not contributing to a discussion about education that is way over my head and v is an ass for coming in and saying, "no, it's okay, it's not just the Hispanic poster who likes Peruvian chicken, everybody likes Peruvian chicken!"
I know we've moved on from this, but I wish there was a magical threshold of when people recognized others as posters. For instance, I've been here since the great migration with the same name, but just posting randomly. Granted, more often recently. I'm still "new". I just chime in here and there, but haven't had much interactions and haven't made friends yet. I feel like it just takes forever to build a post count and become a regular face.
Also, thighs over breasts any day. I also have strong feelings about chicken thighs.
I feel like I know you. But I'm also a sporadic poster and "know" you from the book board!!
It's so weird to come from having 10000 posts on NBC to having none here. I know you too!
I love Pio Pio, but when is NY getting a Nando's? One always makes me think of the other. Tagging v since you always seem to know stuff like this.
The only place I've ever seen a Nando's is London. They have other locations?
It started in South Africa so there a bunch throughout southern African countries. It's pretty much everywhere. As far as in the US I think there are a few in the DMV area.
And thanks for the pio pio rec, def going to check it out when I get back home.
The only place I've ever seen a Nando's is London. They have other locations?
It started in South Africa so there a bunch throughout southern African countries. It's pretty much everywhere. As far as in the US I think there are a few in the DMV area.
And thanks for the pio pio rec, def going to check it out when I get back home.
I first had Nando's in KL, Malaysia of all places. Love it and was so excited to see it in Cairns on vacation.
I don't see it. I don't see how him debating that topic has anything to do with him being male or with race. The initial topic had nothing to do with either of those issues. He disagreed with posters, who yes, were both women and in a few cases POC, but his discourse seemed appropriate to me, he was using data to support his case, others were using their experience. Both are valid evidence for supporting one's opinions. I don't see how any of this has anything to do with him being a white dude.
Edit: I should qualify my last sentence. I can see how being a white dude means that he is speaking from a privileged standpoint. But I don't think he was rude or dismissive of anyone, he was just debating the data he had found on the topic.
:? There's such a deep history of power dynamics at play here. I can't even stop to turn this into a teachable moment. So, I'm going to leave it alone.
Well I guess I am not worth your time then.
I have tried, time and time again, to learn about racism on these boards. I post articles about racism, I engage in topics even though I am scared shitless of saying something stupid. I know it is important to learn and engage and not make things about me.
More recently, and especially tonight, I felt like I wanted to stop discussing race on here. Then I realized that wasn't what I really felt. I just want to stop talking about race with you. I don't need my hand held but I also don't deserve to be brushed aside because I am too dumb or not worth the time. I want to engage in discussions about race with people who actually want to explain things to people, not post angry faces and pink or white chairs. I have a lot to learn, I know, but this isn't the first time you have indicated that you have no time for me.
So I guess the feeling is mutual.
And with that, I am out. I have to go celebrate a friend's 40th.
Post by longtimenopost on Jan 23, 2016 20:26:52 GMT -5
anna7602 I apologize for making you feel that way. Not to make light of this thread, but it's all about perspective. I live in a small town in TX where Chinese is about as ethnic as we get. I do miss living in a big city where we had more options available!
I knew if you paused the verbal war for a moment, you would come around. In the mean time, I was so afraid msniq , was going to roll in her, and chew me out for picking on you. All the other poster who came to your defense, I was like (huh) , "Why are they fighting niq 's fight? I hope he knows I'm not taking any of this personally".
Nah, I spend enough time educating him that I'm glad to see someone else do it for a change. My husband, god bless him, suffers from a disease that affects lots of otherwise intelligent people in his industry: "I don't need to hear your story, I've read about some data"-itis. Fortunately it's not terminal.
Nah, I spend enough time educating him that I'm glad to see someone else do it for a change. My husband, god bless him, suffers from a disease that affects lots of otherwise intelligent people in his industry: "I don't need to hear your story, I've read about some data"-itis. Fortunately it's not terminal.
LOL, my husband suffers from the same thing.
Mr.Kirkette: But my numbers, I'm right! Aren't I right? Cross Check my numbers. They add up because Calculus AB/BC. My numbers. I scored a perfect on the SAT math section, in 2002. I love numbers. I hate people who don't come to my LAN parties.
Kirkette: Cut the shit, babe! I knonw you're a genius. I'm not saying you're not a genius. I respect you intelligence. Please just ask your secretary what she wants for her birthday lunch, using words, honey. Don't use Excel. Don't create a model or an algorithm. Use words, not data. It's okay to have a conversation with another human being, who isn't me, the children, or another published scientist. Having a conversation doesn't mean I'm calling Engineering a soft science, or a liberal art. Just talk to the woman, and ask for her dining preferences. Damn!