It feels somehow meaner to me to say stuff like that on a public twitter account where anyone can find it. Just email it or facebook it where people can't see it. I'd be really hurt if I found mean tweets about myself on a public account.
Girl nobody in the real world gives a flying fuck about winnieandwine or @notquiteblushing .
This is foolishness.
Hm. I agree with @ekaterina,. It's like GOMI. It's different to me to have your ridicule of someone be so public. I find that problematic.
Girl nobody in the real world gives a flying fuck about winnieandwine or @notquiteblushing .
This is foolishness.
Maybe nobody else does, but they probably feel hurt finding stuff about themselves on twitter.
And I would feel like I was the shit that someone I don't even care about is talking shit about something I said on a message board in their real life. But I don't get Twitter and there is nothing here that could like to my real life.
In terms of gossip. Like Scott Baio is not waiting on the edge of his seat wondering if your gender reveal was talked about.
Ok, the way you wrote it was pretty bitchy though. And here I am calling you out right in the thread! Lots of people care about me.
And if wannabe was mad (three years ago) that no one was mocking my gender reveal party she was free to mock it in the thread. Or bake her own rival gender reveal cake like she did with my Hitler elf cookies. Maybe wannabe just doesn't want me to eat pastries?
okay, look. i haven't posted anything else in here because i really don't have anything else to add. my twitter account is public, it always has been, and everyone who i chat with there knows it. it's not a secret and i clearly have nothing to hide.
although i do have to say that it is "rich" to be called creepy by someone who went searching for tweets of mine from 2013.
How the hell are people so turnt up about this but no one is talking about v 's shit?
My hypothesis is that it's easier to address this than the uncomfortable racial stuff that went down.
For shame MM.
I think the majority here have addressed that V was wrong and it the OP is side-eye worthy in a bog way for not seeing that.
Someone could sleuth her old posts to find that evidence another poster requested. Other than that what more can we say? Her behavior was awful, she left like a coward, and very few wish she would come back.
How the hell are people so turnt up about this but no one is talking about v 's shit?
My hypothesis is that it's easier to address this than the uncomfortable racial stuff that went down.
For shame MM.
No one is stopping anyone from talking about all the things. @chloe77 is not answering with this side conversation and she would not be answering you with it LOL.
I'm not surprised people talk about GBCN stuff elsewhere. I'm surprised that specifically wan, choco, etc ridicule posters publicly. It's a shitty thing to do.
It apparently wasn't intended to be public. It wasn't meant for Kanye et al to see. They were having a bitch session and wannabe was the weak link cuz she didn't have her shit locked down.
So it's really more like a private bitch session but someone left the door open and the person being bitched about walked by and heard it, recorded it and is now playing it back 2+ years later.
Now y'all are making me argue for this dumb Twitter shit.
@chloe77 I haven't forgotten about you. Where you at girl?
I think a lot of people on MM did not follow what happened on the other boards; it's about time we discussed it. I don't have much to add but I don't want this to seem like it's people from other boards who are upset about it. MMers need to speak up too.
v was interesting, I guess, but I certainly don't miss her. I am amazed that she chose to leave rather than at least attempting to apologize and to address her racism. I think that speaks volumes about her, and I say good riddance. @chloe77 you may have liked v's surface level posts but come the fuck on with the la di da "who knows if she was racist, I didn't see it" excuses. I hope this thread is a wake up call for you.
I agree with this. I think a lot of people didn't follow, or chimed in on other boards they are a part of as appropriate. I also think there is a component that people simply didn't want to piss off v , and by extension winnieandwine , since they are such forces on the board.
What she did was terrible. And her response to it was shockingly bad, even if sfy could predict that would be her behavior.
I do wonder, who does she share her thoughts about hangovers/pizza/jcrew/cats/judgments with now? The thoughts must go somewhere!
How the hell are people so turnt up about this but no one is talking about v 's shit?
My hypothesis is that it's easier to address this than the uncomfortable racial stuff that went down.
For shame MM.
I think the majority here have addressed that V was wrong and it the OP is side-eye worthy in a bog way for not seeing that.
Someone could sleuth her old posts to find that evidence another poster requested. Other than that what more can we say? Her behavior was awful, she left like a coward, and very few wish she would come back.
Also, v was pretty beloved around the MM parts. Despite her being very entitled and having a “holier than thou” attitude at times, she was beloved. Also, we’ve a pretty forgiving group. Add to both those things the fact that we're such a small group compared to ML or CEP or MMM. So we hold tightly onto our own, lest we completely absorb into the other boards.
I honestly never noticed v’s apparent history of being racially insensitive – but I wasn’t a target nor would I have been looking for it. So when she said what she said, it felt like it was out of left field based on what I “knew” of her. I wouldn’t have been at all surprised had she said something along the lines of “no skittles for poor people”…but what she said was truly shocking.
And it’s hard to accept that someone you once liked can throw you for a loop so completely. V showed herself not only by what she said, but how she bowed out. There’s nothing more to say.
okay, look. i haven't posted anything else in here because i really don't have anything else to add. my twitter account is public, it always has been, and everyone who i chat with there knows it. it's not a secret and i clearly have nothing to hide.
although i do have to say that it is "rich" to be called creepy by someone who went searching for tweets of mine from 2013.
and that was a lie!
LOL that you are posting about the thread in real time on twitter.
sorry @246baje, but I can't buy the argument that it's not meant to be public.
honestly, though, I'm experiencing some real fremdschämen. you're STILL airing your GBCN dirty laundry for the entire world to see. aren't you concerned what the other girl scouts moms will think??
okay, look. i haven't posted anything else in here because i really don't have anything else to add. my twitter account is public, it always has been, and everyone who i chat with there knows it. it's not a secret and i clearly have nothing to hide.
although i do have to say that it is "rich" to be called creepy by someone who went searching for tweets of mine from 2013.
and that was a lie!
LOL that you are posting about the thread in real time on twitter.
sorry @246baje , but I can't buy the argument that it's not meant to be public.
honestly, though, I'm experiencing some real fremdschämen. you're STILL airing your GBCN dirty laundry for the entire world to see. aren't you concerned what the other girl scouts moms will think??
I almost spit out my banana reading this. Geez wannabe you are so not not living by the Girl Scout Law!!!
I think a lot of people on MM did not follow what happened on the other boards; it's about time we discussed it. I don't have much to add but I don't want this to seem like it's people from other boards who are upset about it. MMers need to speak up too.
v was interesting, I guess, but I certainly don't miss her. I am amazed that she chose to leave rather than at least attempting to apologize and to address her racism. I think that speaks volumes about her, and I say good riddance. @chloe77 you may have liked v's surface level posts but come the fuck on with the la di da "who knows if she was racist, I didn't see it" excuses. I hope this thread is a wake up call for you.
I agree with this. I think a lot of people didn't follow, or chimed in on other boards they are a part of as appropriate. I also think there is a component that people simply didn't want to piss of v , and by extension winnieandwine , since they are such forces on the board.
What she did was terrible. And her response to it was shockingly bad, even if sfy could predict that would be her behavior.
I do wonder, who does she share her thoughts about hangovers/pizza/jcrew/cats/judgments with now? The thoughts must go somewhere!
Oh, God. I actually snorted. Just when I thought the shadiest part of my week was going to be last night's RHOP reunion, this thread is delivering.
I hadn't realized V had left completely. I guess that's better than peddling your ass all over the board pretending you're not an asshole, but still -- fucking coward. Good riddance. @chloe77 are you going to join V in her cowardice or are you going to actually come back in here and explain why you hand wave racism and bullying in favor of shallow, vapid conversation?
I'm really upset that Coke Dick comprised of no actual dick. That's half the fun, FFS! Snorting coke off a credit card?! Those things are grimy and germy. Ew.
I hadn't realized V had left completely. I guess that's better than peddling your ass all over the board pretending you're not an asshole, but still -- fucking coward. Good riddance. @chloe77 are you going to join V in her cowardice or are you going to actually come back in here and explain why you hand wave racism and bullying in favor of shallow, vapid conversation?
I'm really upset that Coke Dick comprised of no actual dick. That's half the fun, FFS! Snorting coke off a credit card?! Those things are grimy and germy. Ew.
I've watched enough movies to know you don't snort coke off a credit card, you cut it with a credit card.
Oh yeah I forgot cilantro it's generally bad form to yell "prove it" at someone who says they've experienced racism/ racial insensitivity in case you thought we forgot.
I feel like I'm going to regret this. but I owe an explanation since I've clearly already decided to voice my opinion
I honestly didn't think her attack/mocking was motivated by race. I THINK she was agog that someone of privilege would so openly discuss her privilege (referring to yourself as a philanthropist by title in an informal setting, mentioning how your fam never expected you to work, etc) because I think that's generally frowned upon (but what do I know? I grew up working class and am super tacky w/ all my MM/income posts here).
I THINK that it took v so long to realize why other people could read her posts as racially-motivated because, like myself, she benefits from white privilege. we have the benefit of not having to think about race. in her mind, her ... distaste (?) for kirkette's posts had nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with social status, so it was ok to poke at her. and then by the time this perception was pointed out to her*, it was too late. trying to stay and stick up for yourself when there is a group of people (not kirkette, here, to be clear -- I don't get this vibe from her) who want to take you down regardless of what you say is not easy. so she left instead of trying to fix it/pick up the pieces.
I don't know - it feels like a lot of explaining but it's honestly what I think. I'm doing a lot of assuming here as well, since we haven't spoke.
*If someone said as much to her and she kept going, I take it all back. I thought I saw it go down but there were so many threads I'm not sure?
I hadn't realized V had left completely. I guess that's better than peddling your ass all over the board pretending you're not an asshole, but still -- fucking coward. Good riddance. @chloe77 are you going to join V in her cowardice or are you going to actually come back in here and explain why you hand wave racism and bullying in favor of shallow, vapid conversation?
I'm really upset that Coke Dick comprised of no actual dick. That's half the fun, FFS! Snorting coke off a credit card?! Those things are grimy and germy. Ew.
I've watched enough movies to know you don't snort coke off a credit card, you cut it with a credit card.
Oh yeah I forgot cilantro it's generally bad form to yell "prove it" at someone who says they've experienced racism/ racial insensitivity in case you thought we forgot.
Absolute mischaracterization of what I said. bronxgirl said she's read a pattern of racist remarks from v over the years (certainly didn't allege any were directed at her -- she's not a woman of color if my memory of the years is correct, so I presume not?). I asked her to back that up.
It doesn't take away anything from what may or may not have been said in a certain day to say there was no prior history.
I hadn't realized V had left completely. I guess that's better than peddling your ass all over the board pretending you're not an asshole, but still -- fucking coward. Good riddance. @chloe77 are you going to join V in her cowardice or are you going to actually come back in here and explain why you hand wave racism and bullying in favor of shallow, vapid conversation?
I'm really upset that Coke Dick comprised of no actual dick. That's half the fun, FFS! Snorting coke off a credit card?! Those things are grimy and germy. Ew.
Then why tf is everyone calling it coke dick??? There was no dick in or near coke? Coke was not on or made into the shape of dick?
Who dubbed this coke dick? Who?
And yes, everyone knows you cut with the credit card. Jesus Christ.
A dream died today. There must be some tidbit no one's telling me.
When MM clammed up and refused to discuss the coke snorting any further I think it was the ML ladies who decided to start the rumour about snorting coke off a dick.
I'm also very disappointed to learn there was no dick
Absolute mischaracterization of what I said. bronxgirl said she's read a pattern of racist remarks from v over the years (certainly didn't allege any were directed at her -- she's not a woman of color if my memory of the years is correct, so I presume not?). I asked her to back that up.
It doesn't take away anything from what may or may not have been said in a certain day to say there was no prior history.
Also how can you be so sure there is no prior history? Is it because the white women of GBCN are so good at seeing and calling out racial insensitivity?
The onus is always on the victim to prove that she was wronged. It's the same reason that no one automatically believes women when they say they were raped. "No way my friend V can be racist, I've never seen her say anything off color and she has a black friend!"
Thank you ! Not last Thursday, but the one before. #ARIESSEASON
Then why tf is everyone calling it coke dick??? There was no dick in or near coke? Coke was not on or made into the shape of dick?
Who dubbed this coke dick? Who?
And yes, everyone knows you cut with the credit card. Jesus Christ.
A dream died today. There must be some tidbit no one's telling me.
Sorry. I don't really know lol. The story came to me late via PM and by then, it was over and never rehashed with any actual details again. I want to say that maybe one of the guys dropped his pants at some point, but now we're really getting into a tragic version of Telephone lol.
@246baje , bronxgirl is not a WOC. She is Jewish. I don't know that it matters, if she saw what she saw, then she saw it. I will say that up until the incident with @kirkette , I never noticed v posting anything that I personally felt like was racist or racially insensitive and I am thinking back to the old board with her old name and all, but that's what I personally saw. Obviously, I didn't see every post she ever wrote, because I don't even know what happened with the friends with degrees conversation. For those reasons, I wouldn't presume to say someone flat out isn't racist or racially insensitive. Moreover, I trust @kirkette 's intuition. I'm sure almost all POC can relate to being in a position where you feel like someone is fucking with you for reasons related to race. It happens.
When MM clammed up and refused to discuss the coke snorting any further I think it was the ML ladies who decided to start the rumour about snorting coke off a dick.
I'm also very disappointed to learn there was no dick