I don't feel like I'm as much of a "regular" around here as I used to be. I try to read randoms regularly just to keep up with what people I like and care about are doing, but I rarely even open other threads on MM anymore. I completely missed that v was gone, but I did see what happened with her on ML and I never understood why she didn't come back and own up to her comments and apologize. I missed what she originally said (I think it was deleted? Unless I'm just forgetting?) but I feel like it became a much bigger issue than it would have been when she completely ignored that she hurt feelings and just acted like nothing had happened.
I do think that as a white person, I often don't catch microaggressions simply because they are not something I've ever had to personally worry about in the past. I am trying to be better about that, especially since all this discussion has happened in the last few months here. I feel like I've learned a ton and honestly I feel much more comfortable reading and learning than I do trying to open my big mouth and potentially saying something that doesn't contribute to the conversation. I don't have any brand new information to add to discussions, so often I just "like" posts and try to absorb so I can catch things in the future.
Anyway, I don't feel like my comment here added much either, but I don't want to give the appearance that I'm not here reading or that I don't care. I am honestly appalled that women in our community have been made to feel unwelcome or like they have to be on guard against racist posters. That is exactly the opposite of a community I want to be a part of, and I am hoping that with all these discussions in the recent months, things will get better, even if gradually. If nothing else, I'm glad that it seems some of the worst offenders have left the boards and I hope they don't come back.
Plus, wasn't part of why gypsy was run off the boards is because she supposedly threatened to stab someone in the neck? I don't see why that is ok for some posters to say but not for others.
(FTR I know there was a lot more to it with gypsy, I just always smh when I see that one brought up because that kind of hyperbole is not unusual around here).
I don't feel like I'm as much of a "regular" around here as I used to be. I try to read randoms regularly just to keep up with what people I like and care about are doing, but I rarely even open other threads on MM anymore. I completely missed that v was gone, but I did see what happened with her on ML and I never understood why she didn't come back and own up to her comments and apologize. I missed what she originally said (I think it was deleted? Unless I'm just forgetting?) but I feel like it became a much bigger issue than it would have been when she completely ignored that she hurt feelings and just acted like nothing had happened.
I do think that as a white person, I often don't catch microaggressions simply because they are not something I've ever had to personally worry about in the past. I am trying to be better about that, especially since all this discussion has happened in the last few months here. I feel like I've learned a ton and honestly I feel much more comfortable reading and learning than I do trying to open my big mouth and potentially saying something that doesn't contribute to the conversation. I don't have any brand new information to add to discussions, so often I just "like" posts and try to absorb so I can catch things in the future.
Anyway, I don't feel like my comment here added much either, but I don't want to give the appearance that I'm not here reading or that I don't care. I am honestly appalled that women in our community have been made to feel unwelcome or like they have to be on guard against racist posters. That is exactly the opposite of a community I want to be a part of, and I am hoping that with all these discussions in the recent months, things will get better, even if gradually. If nothing else, I'm glad that it seems some of the worst offenders have left the boards and I hope they don't come back.
Plus, wasn't part of why gypsy was run off the boards is because she supposedly threatened to stab someone in the neck? I don't see why that is ok for some posters to say but not for others.
(FTR I know there was a lot more to it with gypsy, I just always smh when I see that one brought up because that kind of hyperbole is not unusual around here).
Yes, it was a part of it. Combine it with all the other things she did, it was just the cherry on top.
I still don't get why people say things like, "I want to throat punch so and so" or "I'll help you hide the body." But since I doubt those people have also posted other people's personal info, trolled numerous posters, and gaslight someone, it doesn't seem as crazy?
Why are people so insistent on people saying sorry when clearly they aren't? Is it just to make you feel better? Why would that make you feel better?
It is all fucked up. v and her racist comments, talking shit about people on public twitter. But v supposedly went to the best law school ever so I don't for one second believe she didn't know what she was saying as she followed kirkette around GBCN. She meant it and just didn't like being called out about it and she sure as shit didn't want to apologize so she peaced out. And I am not speaking for anyone else, but I wouldn't even want her or wan's fake apology.
I didn't know about v's racist comments to @kirkette, but that's terrible and I'm sorry kirkette had to deal with that. I haven't been active on MM or most of the boards in a while (besides makeup and sometimes MMM), so I've missed a lot of activity here.
I do remember V from a few years ago and didn't really have strong feelings about her. She could be showy/snobby and sometimes catty, but no racist remarks that I recall back then. She was only on my radar when people were complaining about her so I'm surprised that so many posters miss her and want her back, even knowing now that she is racist?! Her disbelief over @kirkette having many friends with degrees is so WTF!!
We hashed out the Twitter crap years ago. I assume anyone who runs to Twitter to make fun of a random, perfectly nice poster probably has their own insecurity issues. Normal people don't tear down other people for shits and giggles.
Whoa...now, there's mod drama? This thread is lit.
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flex didn't you also "accidentally" delete a thread that @notquiteblushing asked you to on MMM when she was not the thread originator?
Let's be straight you didn't have one hiccup/mistake.
ETA: I bring it up so that my "flex does whatever the fuck she wants" has some context.
Like I said earlier, and perhaps I didn't word my earlier post correctly: as far as I can recall, I was not involved in the sniffing coke off a dick. It seems like that was some time ago--like a year or two. However, last winter (December?) I did accidentally delete an entire thread at the request of a non-OP because she was offended about what was being said. What I should have done is delete a single post.
These were two separate incidents. I was involved in the latter incident.
"Why would you ruin perfectly good peanuts by adding candy corn? That's like saying hey, I have these awesome nachos, guess I better add some dryer lint." - Nonny
"Why would you ruin perfectly good peanuts by adding candy corn? That's like saying hey, I have these awesome nachos, guess I better add some dryer lint." - Nonny
I don't feel like I'm as much of a "regular" around here as I used to be. I try to read randoms regularly just to keep up with what people I like and care about are doing, but I rarely even open other threads on MM anymore. I completely missed that v was gone, but I did see what happened with her on ML and I never understood why she didn't come back and own up to her comments and apologize. I missed what she originally said (I think it was deleted? Unless I'm just forgetting?) but I feel like it became a much bigger issue than it would have been when she completely ignored that she hurt feelings and just acted like nothing had happened.
I do think that as a white person, I often don't catch microaggressions simply because they are not something I've ever had to personally worry about in the past. I am trying to be better about that, especially since all this discussion has happened in the last few months here. I feel like I've learned a ton and honestly I feel much more comfortable reading and learning than I do trying to open my big mouth and potentially saying something that doesn't contribute to the conversation. I don't have any brand new information to add to discussions, so often I just "like" posts and try to absorb so I can catch things in the future.
Anyway, I don't feel like my comment here added much either, but I don't want to give the appearance that I'm not here reading or that I don't care. I am honestly appalled that women in our community have been made to feel unwelcome or like they have to be on guard against racist posters. That is exactly the opposite of a community I want to be a part of, and I am hoping that with all these discussions in the recent months, things will get better, even if gradually. If nothing else, I'm glad that it seems some of the worst offenders have left the boards and I hope they don't come back.
And we miss you! Hope all is well.
Aww thanks All is great, wonderfully boring, which is awesome! I'm not around as much during the day anymore, sadly!
Post by dr.girlfriend on Apr 12, 2016 13:20:06 GMT -5
I'm calling out insominac because it's been like twelve hours and we still don't know if your cheesemonger was Brad or Bradley (or even Bradford)? What are you trying to hide!?!??!
Seriously. I don't understand why people are so up in arms about discussing something on Twitter, when GBCN is a public forum that anyone can read. Especially, since it's been explained that Twitter can be set to private, which GBCN cannot. I talk about most of my personal concerns on Twitter, not GBCN, BECAUSE it is more private.
Twitter can be set to private but wannabe 's is not. In fact, she has a lot of viewers. But it's okay because "everyone who follows her knows her feed is public." So if you don't follow her, please start doing so to see if you are in her Burn Book. But no one likes winnieandwine so I guess no one cares?
Now excuse me while I start a blog called @bronxgirlcontradictsherself.com.
I literally cannot follow what you are trying to say. Yes, Wannabe has not set her account private. That doesn't mean that all of Twitter is not private, just that each user can chose if they want their account to be private. I have chosen that I want mine to be private. GBCN, OTOH, is not in anyway shape or form private, so if you feel comfortable posting here then obviously privacy is not a concern for you. I haven't contradicted myself on anyway, but obviously you're just looking for a fight.
Twitter can be set to private but wannabe 's is not. In fact, she has a lot of viewers. But it's okay because "everyone who follows her knows her feed is public." So if you don't follow her, please start doing so to see if you are in her Burn Book. But no one likes winnieandwine so I guess no one cares?
Now excuse me while I start a blog called @bronxgirlcontradictsherself.com.
I literally cannot follow what you are trying to say. Yes, Wannabe has not set her account private. That doesn't mean that all of Twitter is not private, just that each user can chose if they want their account to be private. I have chosen that I want mine to be private. GBCN, OTOH, is not in anyway shape or form private, so if you feel comfortable posting here then obviously privacy is not a concern for you. I haven't contradicted myself on anyway, but obviously you're just looking for a fight.
FYI even if your account is private, your full name shows up when you're tweeting in a convo w/ someone with a public account.
so the topic of your conversations w/ wan are public the general tone you're taking within those conversations is public and your real life name, tied to all of your professional work, is publicly tied to those conversations
I literally cannot follow what you are trying to say. Yes, Wannabe has not set her account private. That doesn't mean that all of Twitter is not private, just that each user can chose if they want their account to be private. I have chosen that I want mine to be private. GBCN, OTOH, is not in anyway shape or form private, so if you feel comfortable posting here then obviously privacy is not a concern for you. I haven't contradicted myself on anyway, but obviously you're just looking for a fight.
FYI even if your account is private, your full name shows up when you're tweeting in a convo w/ someone with a public account.
so the topic of your conversations w/ wan are public the general tone you're taking within those conversations is public and your real life name, tied to all of your professional work, is publicly tied to those conversations
I'd rethink that.
LOL. My professional work, really? You're going to track me down at my job? You are something else.
FYI even if your account is private, your full name shows up when you're tweeting in a convo w/ someone with a public account.
so the topic of your conversations w/ wan are public the general tone you're taking within those conversations is public and your real life name, tied to all of your professional work, is publicly tied to those conversations
I'd rethink that.
LOL. My professional work, really? You're going to track me down at my job? You are something else.
I didn't say that and didn't mean to imply it. I want want NO part of that.
I, personally, wouldn't want twitter bullshit referencing kicking people in the face and GBCN links popping up should an employer do a deep google search on my name.
And I don't for one second believe that that thread wasn't deleted as a favor. I would lay big money on the fact that if it wasn't one of the top 10 or so popular girls on here that asked, it wouldn't have gotten deleted.
Twitter can be set to private but wannabe 's is not. In fact, she has a lot of viewers. But it's okay because "everyone who follows her knows her feed is public." So if you don't follow her, please start doing so to see if you are in her Burn Book. But no one likes winnieandwine so I guess no one cares?
Now excuse me while I start a blog called @bronxgirlcontradictsherself.com.
I literally cannot follow what you are trying to say. Yes, Wannabe has not set her account private. That doesn't mean that all of Twitter is not private, just that each user can chose if they want their account to be private. I have chosen that I want mine to be private. GBCN, OTOH, is not in anyway shape or form private, so if you feel comfortable posting here then obviously privacy is not a concern for you. I haven't contradicted myself on anyway, but obviously you're just looking for a fight.
winnieandwine was hurt by the conversations she read. And the response on this board to her (very valid feelings) disappoints me.
I am not concerned about my privacy, thanks for asking.
And I don't for one second believe that that thread wasn't deleted as a favor. I would lay big money on the fact that if it wasn't one of the top 10 or so popular girls on here that asked, it wouldn't have gotten deleted.
The mod who deleted it isn't a poster on this board? Why would she do a favor for a stranger?
Apparently that includes you. WTF? Consider editing your post.
Here we go with the scolding again .
Right back at you
If you don't understand why its unnecessarily nasty to out someone who never wanted the information made public in the first place, I don't know what to tell you.
winnieandwine was hurt by the conversations she read. And the response on this board to her (very valid feelings) disappoints me.
I am not concerned about my privacy, thanks for asking.
My responses to winnieandwine are largely colored by the fact that I think she threw that in there as a red herring.
I don't know anything about her illness but I don't think anyone should be teased about that.
As for the rest of it whatever man that's life. Buck up butter cup everyone can't love you.
What do you want us to do? Scold wannabe et al? Do you really want an apology that you've bludgeoned out of her?
Maybe I'm not empathetic about these hurt feelings cuz shit like this doesn't bother me. In my head If you don't like me that's clearly a reflection on you. Fuck y'all I'm fabulous.
I think it's weird that people are all "what do you want us to do?" about wannabe, but they're demanding answers from v or winnieandwine or etc. I sort of think shitty behavior should be called out wherever it is, not shrugged off because some of the people doing it are friends.
And I don't for one second believe that that thread wasn't deleted as a favor. I would lay big money on the fact that if it wasn't one of the top 10 or so popular girls on here that asked, it wouldn't have gotten deleted.
The mod who deleted it isn't a poster on this board? Why would she do a favor for a stranger?
Heck, I'm the only MM reg who is a mod.
Someone with a better memory can chime in, but wasn't the person who deleted the thread also the person who threatened to ban posters (Bliss was one, that I remember) who continued to bring the post up after it was gone?
winnieandwine was hurt by the conversations she read. And the response on this board to her (very valid feelings) disappoints me.
I am not concerned about my privacy, thanks for asking.
My responses to winnieandwine are largely colored by the fact that I think she threw that in there as a red herring.
I don't know anything about her illness but I don't think anyone should be teased about that.
As for the rest of it whatever man that's life. Buck up butter cup everyone can't love you.
What do you want us to do? Scold wannabe et al? Do you really want an apology that you've bludgeoned out of her?
Maybe I'm not empathetic about these hurt feelings cuz shit like this doesn't bother me. In my head If you don't like me that's clearly a reflection on you. Fuck y'all I'm fabulous.
I don't want anyone to do anything except debate enthusiastically on a message board. Look we're at 12 pages now!
I think it's weird that people are all "what do you want us to do?" about wannabe, but they're demanding answers from v or winnieandwine or etc. I sort of think shitty behavior should be called out wherever it is, not shrugged off because some of the people doing it are friends.
for one thing, it's not really comparable.
Yes wan's actions were bullying. And bullying isn't nice. And it was weird.
V's actions were racist. Hehe, I'm so funny making a #microaggression joke Lolz.
The mod who deleted it isn't a poster on this board? Why would she do a favor for a stranger?
Heck, I'm the only MM reg who is a mod.
Someone with a better memory can chime in, but wasn't the person who deleted the thread also the person who threatened to ban posters (Bliss was one, that I remember) who continued to bring the post up after it was gone?
I honestly don't remember.
And IIRC what was said to bliss was that she was acting like a troll and we ban trolls. Not really the same thing. But it was blown out of proportion. We also don't willy nilly ban people.
I don't think they're apples and oranges. Maybe different degrees. But both bad behavior. I just don't know what people expect from v or winnieandwine either, because anything they say will be shouted down anyway.