Just...no. Go back and read your own words that Vicmo quoted. And then go read all the other threads and articles that explain why what you're doing is not OK.
We've been out of town all week without wifi (in a residential home!) and spotty cell reception. I didn't know to open the original post until someone told me on FB to check it out.
This post crosses the line of constructive learning and dialogue. It's not up to anyone else. If you want to stay, buck up and keep your original SN. Be honest. Live through the backlash and realize it. Soak in what you've learned and start to live it. That's the only way you can grow. Wallowing and changing your SN only holds you back and further victimizes the WOC on this board by minimizing the issue.
Post by longtimenopost on Sept 2, 2016 10:21:04 GMT -5
Listen, I fucked up in that thread too, big time. But you are making it worse. It is not on these women to forgive or forget, or give me a hug and tell me it's all going to be okay. Would I like it? Yes. Do I expect or deserve it? HELL NO. All I can do is apologize sincerely, be better, and show that I bring more to this community than my white fragility. You're doing none of the above.
Really really really think about this- if someone came waltzing in here trying to make light of how you felt after being wronged, wouldn't you want to cuss them out and throw shit? I don't think you'd feel all warm and fuzzy towards them and using "nice words" and being patient.
Now multiply that times a million because the shit POC have had to deal with is that much worse than what you're dealing with here.
You showed your ass and are embarrassed. You did the wrong doing and are wanting forgiveness instead of showing that you're sorry.
Post by residentdj on Sept 2, 2016 16:29:54 GMT -5
I voted no. I haven't been a member for very long but it seems that OP has a long history of these kinds of remarks, so at this point it's bye Felicia time.
I voted no. I haven't been a member for very long but it seems that OP has a long history of these kinds of remarks, so at this point it's bye Felicia time.
I'm new to hanging on this board, but not new (in general). It's not that she has a long history of the remarks. It's the making the comment, doubling down, making some dramatic exit, coming back and playing the victim that is the problem. In this case, it's like 4 wrongs don't make a right.
I didn't vote originally because this post is fucking asinine. However I want to see the percentage of non-assholes on this board rise above those who think this person deserves a yes.
People on other threads are saying 30% of our members are saying this person should be allowed back. I'm saying that if I don't vote no, I'm almost complicit. I don't want to think that 30% of our board is full of people who think wise owl should be here.
Originally I just wasn't going to vote because I think wise owls post was awful.
I'm trying to be supportive but apparently I'm sucking at verbalizing it.
None of us want to think that 30% of MMMers think wiseowl should be welcomed back. But telling ourselves "no, we're being trolled by other boards!" "no, it's just an ugly-high % because a large portion of the regs declined to vote on principle!" is a view that is so pollyanna as to be willfully obtuse. It is a failure to own that maybe, whether we want to admit it or not, we are part of a community where 30% of of people cannot even identify their white privilege in order to check it.
Post by moopoint17 on Sept 2, 2016 19:46:28 GMT -5
I saw this post earlier back when it was on page 1 and totally thought it was MUD, because really ... who's that dense? Then I exited without bothering to vote.
To say that the OP lacks self-awareness is an understatement.