new recommendations for SIDS pervention

[cleo29]

I still get annoyed that they kind of combine a baby who might suffocate to SIDS. They are not the same. And in fact because they would often classify this as the same, I think as a way to be kinder to the parents, the true number of SIDS cases was not accurate.

I was always nervous to have my girls in bed with me for fear of smothering them by accident either with my body or pillows and blankets.

I can't imagine how horrifying it would be.

[lilafowler]

A year? Ellie only started sleeping through the night when we put her in her own room lol (about 3-4 months).

[CrazyLucky]

I'm glad these recommendations weren't out when my kids were born. We would have felt guilty about having them in their own rooms from day 3 on. We couldn't sleep when they were in the room. Even when they sleep, they make noises all the time.

[cleo29]

Oct 24, 2016 13:16:24 GMT -5 lilafowler said:

A year? Ellie only started sleeping through the night when we put her in her own room lol (about 3-4 months).

Both of my girls slept much better in their own room, also around 3-4 months.

[lilafowler]

Oct 24, 2016 13:19:50 GMT -5 cleo29 said:

Oct 24, 2016 13:16:24 GMT -5 lilafowler said:

A year? Ellie only started sleeping through the night when we put her in her own room lol (about 3-4 months).

Both of my girls slept much better in their own room, also around 3-4 months.

I will say this did not prevent a year plus of cosleeping (unintentionally) when she was a toddler (full disclosure).

[cleo29]

Oct 24, 2016 13:23:05 GMT -5 lilafowler said:

Oct 24, 2016 13:19:50 GMT -5 cleo29 said:

Both of my girls slept much better in their own room, also around 3-4 months.

I will say this did not prevent a year plus of cosleeping (unintentionally) when she was a toddler (full disclosure).

I have a nearly seven year old who crawls into my bed every night.

[speckledfrog]

Add me to the camp that is glad this wasn't the recommendation when my boys were infants.

[eddy]

I would have hated having them in my room for this long. Having them so close actually ramped up my anxiety. Plus having to tip toe around my own bedroom for a whole year. No thank you.

[wambam]

This seems...impractical.

[cabbagecabbage]

Oct 24, 2016 13:37:08 GMT -5 wambam said:

This seems...impractical.

It depends. It's by far the most practical way to exist and get some sleep if you're breastfeeding on demand. I hated the idea of cosleeping but it was the best thing for our family. But I don't think it's a one size fits all thing at all.

[smock]

We just moved DD2 out of our bedroom at 6 mo. But we mainly waited that long because she's sharing a room with DD1, and after last night, when they woke each other up for 2+ hours straight in the middle of the night, I'm regretting the decision.

I know that's not really relevant. I'm sleep deprived and brain addled today.

[wambam]

Oct 24, 2016 13:45:09 GMT -5 cabbagecabbage said:

Oct 24, 2016 13:37:08 GMT -5 wambam said:

This seems...impractical.

It depends. It's by far the most practical way to exist and get some sleep if you're breastfeeding on demand. I hated the idea of cosleeping but it was the best thing for our family. But I don't think it's a one size fits all thing at all.

yeah, I think this is what I meant. It doesn't seem like it should be a broad, sweeping recommendation.

[gummybear]

I preferred having them in my room (in a co-sleeper) bc it made night nursing so much easier. I used to dream feed all the time. That being said, I would frequently wake up in a sheer panic thinking they were in my arms and had fallen out. I would be kind of half-asleep/sleepwalking-type behavior crawling all over the bed slapping down the sheets and comforter with my hands looking for them hysterically. Good times.

[cabbagecabbage]

Oct 24, 2016 13:46:04 GMT -5 wambam said:

Oct 24, 2016 13:45:09 GMT -5 cabbagecabbage said:

It depends. It's by far the most practical way to exist and get some sleep if you're breastfeeding on demand. I hated the idea of cosleeping but it was the best thing for our family. But I don't think it's a one size fits all thing at all.

yeah, I think this is what I meant. It doesn't seem like it should be a broad, sweeping recommendation.

Well, some things are safer than others, so they should recommend them. As a parent you can never ever ever get it perfectly right but they still make recommendations and I'm so glad, for example, they recommend putting the baby in your bed if you're drowsy vs a couch because while they're both suffocation risks, couches are so much more dangerous but the old advice of never bedshare meant so many of my friends "refused" to bedshare from fear of the danger but passed out on a couch or recliner many times, which is a much more dangerous sleeping situation. And I'm not trying to lecture at you, wambam. I'm just putting my thoughts down because mom hormones race through me and make me feel feelings about it.

[hopecounts]

They recommend sleeping in the same room because science has shown it reduces the occurrence of SIDS, it's based on best practices given the information we have from the current studies.
Please don't argue with science I don't have time for that discussion today

Also this is actually a reduction in the time frame, previously it was encouraged for a year, this gives a clearer recommendation and actually reduces it to 6 months recommended 12 months encouraged.

[isabel]

Oct 24, 2016 13:57:46 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

They recommend sleeping in the same room because science has shown it reduces the occurrence of SIDS, it's based on best practices given the information we have from the current studies.
Please don't argue with science I don't have time for that discussion today

Also this is actually a reduction in the time frame, previously it was encouraged for a year, this gives a clearer recommendation and actually reduces it to 6 months recommended 12 months encouraged.

I get that it's science. I understand why it's recommended. But I just have to say that these people have never slept in the same room as my baby. Hell to the no. We lasted 6 weeks before we kicked him out of our room.

[wambam]

Oct 24, 2016 13:55:39 GMT -5 cabbagecabbage said:

Oct 24, 2016 13:46:04 GMT -5 wambam said:

yeah, I think this is what I meant. It doesn't seem like it should be a broad, sweeping recommendation.

Well, some things are safer than others, so they should recommend them. As a parent you can never ever ever get it perfectly right but they still make recommendations and I'm so glad, for example, they recommend putting the baby in your bed if you're drowsy vs a couch because while they're both suffocation risks, couches are so much more dangerous but the old advice of never bedshare meant so many of my friends "refused" to bedshare from fear of the danger but passed out on a couch or recliner many times, which is a much more dangerous sleeping situation. And I'm not trying to lecture at you, wambam . I'm just putting my thoughts down because mom hormones race through me and make me feel feelings about it.

No, it's fine. I don't have kids and may never have a newborn, so it's sort of moot with me. Also, I'm a natural rule follower so I would probably be a nutter if I did have kids.

[cabbagecabbage]

Oct 24, 2016 13:59:45 GMT -5 wambam said:

Oct 24, 2016 13:55:39 GMT -5 cabbagecabbage said:

Well, some things are safer than others, so they should recommend them. As a parent you can never ever ever get it perfectly right but they still make recommendations and I'm so glad, for example, they recommend putting the baby in your bed if you're drowsy vs a couch because while they're both suffocation risks, couches are so much more dangerous but the old advice of never bedshare meant so many of my friends "refused" to bedshare from fear of the danger but passed out on a couch or recliner many times, which is a much more dangerous sleeping situation. And I'm not trying to lecture at you, wambam . I'm just putting my thoughts down because mom hormones race through me and make me feel feelings about it.

No, it's fine. I don't have kids and may never have a newborn, so it's sort of moot with me. Also, I'm a natural rule follower so I would probably be a nutter if I did have kids.

Motherhood is a mind fuck but I didn't want to be the crazy lady jumping down your throat.

[hopecounts]

Oct 24, 2016 13:59:20 GMT -5 isabel said:

Oct 24, 2016 13:57:46 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

They recommend sleeping in the same room because science has shown it reduces the occurrence of SIDS, it's based on best practices given the information we have from the current studies.
Please don't argue with science I don't have time for that discussion today

Also this is actually a reduction in the time frame, previously it was encouraged for a year, this gives a clearer recommendation and actually reduces it to 6 months recommended 12 months encouraged.

I get that it's science. I understand why it's recommended. But I just have to say that these people have never slept in the same room as my baby. Hell to the no. We lasted 6 weeks before we kicked him out of our room.

they know but they are obligated to recommend best practices which is to room share. 
It sucks but it is safest so they recommend it to protect babies.
Maybe parents won't do 6 months but if they suck it up and do 4 months (like I did) that's still a big improvement.
By recommending the best option more parents will hopefully attempt to get there which will help.

[isabel]

Oct 24, 2016 14:02:57 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

Oct 24, 2016 13:59:20 GMT -5 isabel said:

I get that it's science. I understand why it's recommended. But I just have to say that these people have never slept in the same room as my baby. Hell to the no. We lasted 6 weeks before we kicked him out of our room.

they know but they are obligated to recommend best practices which is to room share. 
It sucks but it is safest so they recommend it to protect babies.
Maybe parents won't do 6 months but if they suck it up and do 4 months (like I did) that's still a big improvement.
By recommending the best option more parents will hopefully attempt to get there which will help.

I know. I'm honestly kidding around. There's just no way I would last 6 months, or even 4. Much as I would like to and I know that it is safer, my mental health and sanity just couldn't withstand it.

[Bernadine]

Great, something else to feel guilty about!

[jlt19]

Whelp, count me as a shit parent then b/c I had both my kids in their cribs from day 1, per my Pedi's recommendations. She also told me to turn off the monitor, as I would hear the baby when she/he truly needed me. Best advice I ever got.

[Deleted]

I am in the kids in their own room ASAP camp. It's what works for us. I actually put a twin bed and a mini fridge in DDs room so that one of us can formula feed her overnight and sleep on the bed from day one. DS slept in a room with us for 3 weeks and that was plenty. He was a snorer.

[Deleted]

Oct 24, 2016 14:14:21 GMT -5 @licia said:

Pffffffft, these recs can suck iiiiit.

Mommy's gotta live her life, baby.

It's about what works for your family. Most of this seems to be related to suffocation risks, masquerading as SIDS prevention. I think sleep positioning recommendations are helpful for all (the back-to-sleep campaign comes to mind) as well as proper sleep setup - firm mattress, bedding, etc. But, that's about it. I don't need to be told again that breast milk descended from heaven to ensure a healthy human race and I don't need a kid in my room for a year.

[starlily]

Oct 24, 2016 13:16:24 GMT -5 lilafowler said:

A year? Ellie only started sleeping through the night when we put her in her own room lol (about 3-4 months).

DD1 was cool being in our room until 9 months or so, but DD2 started sleeping through the night only after we put her in her own room at 4 months. In hindsight, we should've probably put her in her own room at 3 months. Everyone would've been miserable if we kept her in our room for a year.

[Deleted]

Oct 24, 2016 13:59:45 GMT -5 wambam said:

Oct 24, 2016 13:55:39 GMT -5 cabbagecabbage said:

Well, some things are safer than others, so they should recommend them. As a parent you can never ever ever get it perfectly right but they still make recommendations and I'm so glad, for example, they recommend putting the baby in your bed if you're drowsy vs a couch because while they're both suffocation risks, couches are so much more dangerous but the old advice of never bedshare meant so many of my friends "refused" to bedshare from fear of the danger but passed out on a couch or recliner many times, which is a much more dangerous sleeping situation. And I'm not trying to lecture at you, wambam . I'm just putting my thoughts down because mom hormones race through me and make me feel feelings about it.

No, it's fine. I don't have kids and may never have a newborn, so it's sort of moot with me. Also, I'm a natural rule follower so I would probably be a nutter if I did have kids.

This is WHY Mom's are crazy. No one can follow ALL the rules. It's not practical. Some of us can follow SOME of the rules MOST of the time. MOST of us are CRAZY because we can't follow all of the rules ALL of the time. 

Also sometimes the rules contradict each other or bring shame or ridicule from friends and family. 

YOU CANNOT WIN. YOU CAN ONLY WINE.

[bcv513]

Oct 24, 2016 14:05:46 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

Great, something else to feel guilty about!

Seriously! I was feeling guilty that I hadn't moved C into her room until this weekend. Now I feel guilty that I did it!

[nikki25]

Oct 24, 2016 13:57:46 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

They recommend sleeping in the same room because science has shown it reduces the occurrence of SIDS, it's based on best practices given the information we have from the current studies.
Please don't argue with science I don't have time for that discussion today

Also this is actually a reduction in the time frame, previously it was encouraged for a year, this gives a clearer recommendation and actually reduces it to 6 months recommended 12 months encouraged.

What was the study and why does sleeping in the room reduce the risk? Is just because the parents check on them more often?

The article annoyed me because it didn't give any specifics and I am curious of their findings, do you have any insight?

[isabel]

Oct 24, 2016 14:32:16 GMT -5 nikki25 said:

Oct 24, 2016 13:57:46 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

They recommend sleeping in the same room because science has shown it reduces the occurrence of SIDS, it's based on best practices given the information we have from the current studies.
Please don't argue with science I don't have time for that discussion today

Also this is actually a reduction in the time frame, previously it was encouraged for a year, this gives a clearer recommendation and actually reduces it to 6 months recommended 12 months encouraged.

What was the study and why does sleeping in the room reduce the risk? Is just because the parents check on them more often?

The article annoyed me because it didn't give any specifics and I am curious of their findings, do you have any insight?

It has to do with moderating their breathing and heart rate. Babies feel/sense the parent(s) breathing and match it. It's thought that when they don't have that regulating heartbeat and breath sounds that babies don't always regulate well on their own. The more mature they become (i.e. 6 months, a year, so on), the less likely they are to stop self-regulating.

[cville]

I already posted on CEP about this. I couldn't have lived with my children in my room with me for a year. I never would have slept. Ever. And while I'm all for science, science also shows that extreme sleep deprivation is tantamount to being under the influence of drugs or alcohol when it comes to things like driving. Sometimes that which is best in one scenario is not in another. And balancing these will be forever and ever the task of parenting.