Post by icedcoffee on Dec 22, 2020 14:43:02 GMT -5
I do not understand Amazon not disclosing this information. People should not be able to anonymously send shit to people. It's one thing to include a gift receipt that's not signed, but if the receiver goes through the trouble of calling they should be disclosing it. It's malarkey!
Well, she said "works with" not coworker, so it could be a B2B relationship. Depending on his role, I can definitely see that type size gift. At my old job, I worked with our properties in accounting, and our property manager sent myself and our controller a pair of $150 Air Pods one xmas, and I maybe worked on the stuff for a total of 10 hours a year and had met him once. Our money managers for our $$$ funds would easily drop many thousands on sporting events and meals to "entice" us. So I COULD see it being a possibility.
BUT, with their past (and my current situation) I wouldn't buy it for a second unless this was something I knew to happen.
Air pods are like the Target gift card of expensive gifts though. You would just assume most people would want one. A $500 business gift that happens to be exactly what you want seems so unlikely.
Post by texasharleygirl on Dec 22, 2020 15:31:38 GMT -5
This person in China has the home address? If it was a coworker or even a vendor sending a gift (which I have had that happen), they still had to have had to ask him for his address.
Either way, he knew it was coming and didn't fess up about it.
I just now had a gift from a vendor delivered to my house and had my fingers crossed for a drone. (It was a coffee cup that says "You're On Mute" and a selection of local coffees and teas.)
I agree this is so industry dependent. I get a lot of swag this time of year in the form of food and wining/dining and small gifts from vendors. I work in digital marketing with a lot of contact with startups, so a lot of it is weird, LOL, like the year I got an enormous and unsolicited sock monkey.
I'm sorry OP this stinks worse than week old rancid cheese. How did say coworker guess he wanted that? Get your home address? Very timely we msg? I wouldn't buy this just like I wouldn't buy that cheese.
FWIW I've received 2 cards from coworkers who did not ask my address. We work in HR though, so we have access to employee information.
That sounds a little creepy IMO! I don’t want a card or a gift from someone who I didn’t give my address too.
Yeah, it actually occurred to me to send cards to some coworkers but I decided against it for that reason. It's not creepy per se because we all know how we accessed that information, but it seems like maybe it crosses a line?
Both cards I received were from upper level managers, so perhaps that's less weird than if it went the other way around.
That sounds a little creepy IMO! I don’t want a card or a gift from someone who I didn’t give my address too.
Yeah, it actually occurred to me to send cards to some coworkers but I decided against it for that reason. It's not creepy per se because we all know how we accessed that information, but it seems like maybe it crosses a line?
Both cards I received were from upper level managers, so perhaps that's less weird than if it went the other way around.
It would just bother me because they were accessing HR records for personal use. It’s been awhile since I worked in an office but when I had access to that sort of thing it was pretty clear I’d be fired if I used personnel records that way. It’s not like they couldn’t just email or ping you and ask for your address.
I just now had a gift from a vendor delivered to my house and had my fingers crossed for a drone. (It was a coffee cup that says "You're On Mute" and a selection of local coffees and teas.)
I agree this is so industry dependent. I get a lot of swag this time of year in the form of food and wining/dining and small gifts from vendors. I work in digital marketing with a lot of contact with startups, so a lot of it is weird, LOL, like the year I got an enormous and unsolicited sock monkey.
Post by catscatscats on Dec 22, 2020 19:31:53 GMT -5
Ugh the plot thickens. I got on chat with Amazon today and asked them to confirm that the package was shipped from *name* in China. They would not disclose anything, even after escalation but did finally say it was from the United States. I asked if it was from our state, and gave affair partners name and they wouldn’t tell me anything else. They offered to email the giver to tell them the gifted was curious or some shit but I chickened out, because if it really was from the business person I wouldn’t want her to know that my husband has a crazy wife who doesn’t trust him.
He does often get gifts from suppliers - what are the chances the company also has a US address to avoid taxes?
I cannot believe Amazon is being such a sack of shit. Did you call and try talking in person? The powers of persuasion are much more effective with a live person. I got my guy to fold like a tent in under 5 minutes.
I think you’re way overthinking all this. Usually the simplest answer is the correct one. As much as I hope I’m wrong about that. I’m sorry you are dealing with this.
I think you’re way overthinking all this. Usually the simplest answer is the correct one. As much as I hope I’m wrong about that. I’m sorry you are dealing with this.
Her H probably gaslighted her during the affair and it seems like he's doing in now. She's overthinking it because he's making her think she's crazy. It's a living hell.
Post by icedcoffee on Dec 22, 2020 19:53:45 GMT -5
Fuck Amazon in the ass. I am so mad on your behalf. I would call Amazon and I’d tell them you have legal reasons for needing to know. Fuck them. This isn’t HIPAA. They mailed shit to your house.
Ugh the plot thickens. I got on chat with Amazon today and asked them to confirm that the package was shipped from *name* in China. They would not disclose anything, even after escalation but did finally say it was from the United States. I asked if it was from our state, and gave affair partners name and they wouldn’t tell me anything else. They offered to email the giver to tell them the gifted was curious or some shit but I chickened out, because if it really was from the business person I wouldn’t want her to know that my husband has a crazy wife who doesn’t trust him.
He does often get gifts from suppliers - what are the chances the company also has a US address to avoid taxes?
Grasping at straws.
You need to CALL and ask for a supervisor. I would sight legal reasons for needing to know. I would take not take no for answer.
Am I at any sort of risk? How can I be assured that my receiving this unsolicited item from Amazon isn’t an indication that there’s been some sort of security breach and that my personal and sensitive information isn’t at risk? How can I assume that this is in fact a gift and not a third party infiltrating my account information? I understand you can’t give me someone else’s personal information but a simple first name would suffice. It would do wonders to quell my concerns. These are unsettling times and my family can’t afford any sort of breach that would put us in any sort of financial jeopardy.
I’d also add that it’s a big ticket item which makes the entire thing more obscene and unsettling. I might also add that you have suffered “violations” of your privacy in the past and that you have to know for the safety and well- being of your family.
I am chomping at the bit to call Amazon myself for her.
This coy shit they are pulling isn’t going to fly. This isn’t freaking grade school Secret Santa. Christ.
Me too. They aren’t legally obligated to not dislose. It’s not like when you order there’s a box that says “make this order anonymous”. I’m in a terrible mood today and this is making me want to fight.
I am chomping at the bit to call Amazon myself for her.
This coy shit they are pulling isn’t going to fly. This isn’t freaking grade school Secret Santa. Christ.
Me too. They aren’t legally obligated to not dislose. It’s not like when you order there’s a box that says “make this order anonymous”. I’m in a terrible mood today and this is making me want to fight.
Seriously, there is no such thing as Amazon-client privilege. They can totally tell you. Or, well, they can tell HIM. It might be harder to convince them to tell you since it wasn’t addressed to you.
Me too. They aren’t legally obligated to not dislose. It’s not like when you order there’s a box that says “make this order anonymous”. I’m in a terrible mood today and this is making me want to fight.
Seriously, there is no such thing as Amazon-client privilege. They can totally tell you. Or, well, they can tell HIM. It might be harder to convince them to tell you since it wasn’t addressed to you.
Do they know exactly who he is? I might be tempted to say he was a minor and Amazon is treading on very thin ice
This person in China has the home address? If it was a coworker or even a vendor sending a gift (which I have had that happen), they still had to have had to ask him for his address.
Either way, he knew it was coming and didn't fess up about it.
My coworkers are using their home address with clients and business contacts because they're working home/remote and need work related packages. So its possible he had given it earlier this year.
It definitely seems off. I mean it could all be legitimate. I have seen $1000 whiskey/scotch bottles and season tickets being gifted for the holidays to upper management from clients.
However, a drone seems unusual as a business gift. I'd be worried and researching more.
My heart goes out to you for your first thought in all this being that it’s somehow your fault for being “crazy.” You are not crazy, regardless of the explanation behind all this.
And your H may very well be innocent in all this, but it should be HIS job to prove it. Not yours. And he should be more than willing to do the legwork to show you he’s serious.