My husband had his first dose of moderna on Friday and was in bad shape all weekend. Iāve never heard of someone having a reaction like that for the first dose. We just recovered from covid within the last 8 weeks so maybe that has Something to do with it? Heās scared for his second dose.
My sister was basically knocked out for a week after her first Moderna shot and she had covid in November. Her second shot is today and she is dreading it, but is just focused on getting it over with. Her doctor feels pretty confident that if she skipped the second dose she'd still be well-protected, but the science isn't confirmed and wanted my sister to get the second shot since that's what's still recommended.
Itās like the first shot behaves like the second shot for covid survivors. Iām hoping J&J is more widely available here by the time Iām eligible so I can just be one and done and hopefully avoid the bad side effects.
On Monday, our governor instructed the health department to open appointments to anyone 16+ because they werenāt filling the appointments with people already eligible. My H and I snagged spots and we both got our Pfizer first dose! I am so happy and hopeful today.
The clinic is at the convention center in my town and it is the most organized thing Iāve seen in my life.
For a board that usually prides itself on āchecking its privilege,ā it seems, for the most part, incredibly blind to its own privilege. The idea that āshots in arms matter,ā āitās all about herd immunity,ā āa large percentage of old people are vaccinated so letās open the floodgates...ā these are all things that are said at the expense of disabled people.
I am at extremely high risk for Covid complications but will likely not be eligible until my state opens up eligibility to everyone. I have friends who have cheated to get the vaccine, and told me about it as some kind of mea culpa. Everybody is scared and frustrated and tired of your of lockdowns, but thereās a whole group of people who are still at high risk who are being completely overlooked regarding the vaccine. Weāre either completely forgotten about in the discussion of āshots in arms matter,ā or weāre used as a reason to make able-bodied people feel better because they feel that theyāre immunity benefits us. More than our actual immunity?
Itās been an exhausting year, but the most exhausting part has been the last couple weeks, with all the high-fives and talk of light at the end of the tunnel, has been the most exhausting.
Sorry Iām rambling, Iāve just been angry about this for so long.
For a board that usually prides itself on āchecking its privilege,ā it seems, for the most part, incredibly blind to its own privilege. The idea that āshots in arms matter,ā āitās all about herd immunity,ā āa large percentage of old people are vaccinated so letās open the floodgates...ā these are all things that are said at the expense of disabled people.
I am at extremely high risk for Covid complications but will likely not be eligible until my state opens up eligibility to everyone. I have friends who have cheated to get the vaccine, and told me about it as some kind of mea culpa. Everybody is scared and frustrated and tired of your of lockdowns, but thereās a whole group of people who are still at high risk who are being completely overlooked regarding the vaccine. Weāre either completely forgotten about in the discussion of āshots in arms matter,ā or weāre used as a reason to make able-bodied people feel better because they feel that theyāre immunity benefits us. More than our actual immunity?
Itās been an exhausting year, but the most exhausting part has been the last couple weeks, with all the high-fives and talk of light at the end of the tunnel, has been the most exhausting.
Sorry Iām rambling, Iāve just been angry about this for so long.
I think that weāre each coming at this issue from experience with our own statesā processes for administering the vaccine. I donāt know what state youāre in but 1b eligibility seems to be more or less inclusive based on state guidelines. This could have been prevented by a nationally guided and administered roll out and that didnāt happen. I can appreciate your frustration and anger.
Anecdotally, I still hear more from people who are eligible* but feel like they are undeserving than people gaming the system.
*Some of the eligibility guidelines are very clear, but others are less so. What constitutes "front line"? What industries quality as manufacturing? A lot of people are relying on what their employers tell them, which might be the best we can do.
aurora, as someone in management, I've been trying to get answers for my staff since November/ December/ January. We just heard final confirmation yesterday. It's very frustrating.
I've also had no luck due to supply setting up a vaccine clinic. Luckily, the Fire Department was able to set up a vaccine clinic for those people that were 1a-1b+ in our state at that time. Although that was Friday, and Monday they opened it to expanded 1b+ whatever that means lol/sob.
For a board that usually prides itself on āchecking its privilege,ā it seems, for the most part, incredibly blind to its own privilege. The idea that āshots in arms matter,ā āitās all about herd immunity,ā āa large percentage of old people are vaccinated so letās open the floodgates...ā these are all things that are said at the expense of disabled people.
I am at extremely high risk for Covid complications but will likely not be eligible until my state opens up eligibility to everyone. I have friends who have cheated to get the vaccine, and told me about it as some kind of mea culpa. Everybody is scared and frustrated and tired of your of lockdowns, but thereās a whole group of people who are still at high risk who are being completely overlooked regarding the vaccine. Weāre either completely forgotten about in the discussion of āshots in arms matter,ā or weāre used as a reason to make able-bodied people feel better because they feel that theyāre immunity benefits us. More than our actual immunity?
Itās been an exhausting year, but the most exhausting part has been the last couple weeks, with all the high-fives and talk of light at the end of the tunnel, has been the most exhausting.
Sorry Iām rambling, Iāve just been angry about this for so long.
I'm so sorry. Is your state not at 1B yet? I think the issue is that each state really is different.
And there were flaws where some places ended up with extra shots that needed to be given that day at that site so they weren't wasted. I know that happened with our City workers - they had a lot of refusals on the day of vaccinations at the City building and had to get them in arms by the end of the day. They basically sent out a mass email to get them done within about an hour. It's what sucks about the Moderna and Pfizer shots. They don't have time to reach outside small networks a lot so some non-Phase 1 or 1B were given shots "early."
I haven't yet known anyone who skipped ahead intentionally. I am one of the last of the adults around me to get the shot. About 70% of the adults I know are elderly, First Peoples/Native American, have a pre-existing condition (everything from asthma to past cancer to diabetes etc.) and middle-aged, front-line workers, are undergoing tumor/cancer treatments and were eligible early, or are teachers/professors. But I can only imagine how frustrating for you if you aren't eligible and others are seemingly skipping ahead.
S/O cheating, Iāve been wondering how often this happens. I got the same text as this commenter below, from a friend Iāve known a decade who works with a health department.
Yesterday at dinner I got a frantic text: Legacy hospital has tons of extra doses of the vaccine due to the recent ice storm, they're signing everybody up who can sign up for a limited time in order to move the doses into arms. Attached was a link directly to a spot to sign up for the mass vaccination at the convention center. Seemed very legit!
Honestly the whole thing was a blur, I signed up in about 30 seconds taking it as gospel what my friend told me about the supply chain issue leading to more sign ups. I am not in Phase 1 a or Phase 1 b.
Well, later that evening I see that there are a bunch of people who can't get signed up due to system problems, people actually in Phase 1 A or B.
My concern is logistical and ethical. If I cancel my appointment will Legacy or the convention center be able to reallocate my vaccine to someone in need or has my slot already been taken by my "shoot first ask questions later approach". If its unable or unlikely to be filled on that day, then I feel that I am better off to just take it. Anyone work the vaccine clinic have any insight into the text that I got?
I feel like a very bad person for jumping in line, but it was just a blur when when someone said, here's a link, open to all comers sign up now.. didn't even think twice.
I should have asked my friend more questions, but she assured me it was no issue and Iād actually be helping out. It *was* fishy and I should have done better, but I figured that although there was no way to contact anyone from the linked page to ask, once I signed up, thereād be contact info to confirm this was legit or to cancel. I got the confirmation email, and the linked number directed me to a system that said it would help you figure out eligibility questions and register for an appointment if you were eligible, and then a recording came on that said appointments were booked and hung up on you. I tried over the next two days, about a dozen calls, and also looking for other numbers. Phone calls to the hospital were directed to the same number that hung up on you. There was no way to cancel or to ask a question. Emails to the confirmation email bounced back. It was bizarre.
Luckily, they must have caught it, because I got a call from a nurse asking if I was actually eligible. She listened kindly when I explained the situation, and it sounded like it wasnāt the first time sheād heard it. The appointment was canceled, and I apologized for wasting everyoneās time (and felt awful).
Itās definitely a privileged position to assume that if you have a question, theyāll be someone to answer it, but I really hope these kinks are worked out as we open up more tiers. Because thereās no one to ask, āHey, are those shots in rural areas going to go to waste and Iām helping things, or they could be redistributed and Iām hurting things.ā And maybe itās not anyoneās job to answer that because theyāre all focused on distribution and logistics, but in the absence people will definitely write their own narratives around it.
I'm going to guess we start seeing rates rise when appointments become as easy as walking into a facility. I have several bright, computer savy individuals in my work group that just didn't want to bother refreshing 600 sites, joining a FB group, and calling several places a day. It was to the point, as I said upthread, that they didn't even want to fill out a simple 2 field work survey. They want to get vaxxed, they just don't want to have to work for it.
I had an appointment in hand for my brother. amberlyrose posted that Walgreens had opened up appointments and it was the second day he was eligible. He said no because he didn't want to drive from Westminster to Lafayette after work on Monday. He said "I'll look later." I told him it wouldn't be there later. He thinks checking at lunch and after dinner is going to get him an appointment. My mom turned down an appointment because she didn't want to try to park at the hospital. argh.
For a board that usually prides itself on āchecking its privilege,ā it seems, for the most part, incredibly blind to its own privilege. The idea that āshots in arms matter,ā āitās all about herd immunity,ā āa large percentage of old people are vaccinated so letās open the floodgates...ā these are all things that are said at the expense of disabled people.
I am at extremely high risk for Covid complications but will likely not be eligible until my state opens up eligibility to everyone. I have friends who have cheated to get the vaccine, and told me about it as some kind of mea culpa. Everybody is scared and frustrated and tired of your of lockdowns, but thereās a whole group of people who are still at high risk who are being completely overlooked regarding the vaccine. Weāre either completely forgotten about in the discussion of āshots in arms matter,ā or weāre used as a reason to make able-bodied people feel better because they feel that theyāre immunity benefits us. More than our actual immunity?
Itās been an exhausting year, but the most exhausting part has been the last couple weeks, with all the high-fives and talk of light at the end of the tunnel, has been the most exhausting.
Sorry Iām rambling, Iāve just been angry about this for so long.
I'm going to push back on the "lying about eligibility" myth we're bandying about. Because it sounds an awful lot like, "There's a lot of people gaming the federal assistance programs". Honestly, has it been verified that people are line jumping, or is it a bunch of, "I know someone whose sister's husband's brother saw there was an appointment and took it. He doesn't have anything [that the poster knows of] wrong with them!"
I personally know 2 people who lied about pre-existing conditions to get appointments. One of them has a parent who lives with them. Parent is extremely high risk and they were terrified of bringing it home to them. Parent is already vaccinated. They have actually admitted they lied in order to get an appointment.
Post by mrsukyankee on Mar 24, 2021 16:41:32 GMT -5
I'm just sad that my step-dad, who lives in NM and is in his early 70s, has still not been able to get an appointment for his jab. He really, really wants to get it and has tried everything he can. I hope he gets it soon as my mom is at risk.
I got to spend 3 hours today calling people to schedule appointments! It was probably the best 3 hours Iāve had in the last year...and I hate talking on the phone!
I was thrilled to schedule appointments and even more thrilled when I was able to tear their sheet up because they had already gotten an appointment scheduled/completed.
There were people who had MAILED in a request to be put on a list. One number we had was for someone who was homeless, but the line had been disconnected. This clinic is working to make things more equitable, but our state isnāt even trying. So it sounds good that weāre opening to everyone April 5, but I was still scheduling some people over 80 today.
BUT the clinic was receiving 50 doses, now weāre at 100, and starting in 2 weeks, we should be getting 200. I anticipate that weāre going to be able to meet demands very soon.
I just got my covid-19 antibody test results back from my Red Cross blood donation, 13 days post single dose J&J vaccine: negative. (I have no reason to think Iāve had covid.)
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.ā
I'm just sad that my step-dad, who lives in NM and is in his early 70s, has still not been able to get an appointment for his jab. He really, really wants to get it and has tried everything he can. I hope he gets it soon as my mom is at risk.
Is he eligible and just canāt get an appointment? I have family in NM who recently got their vaccines and I can reach out to get tips for you to pass on to your step-dad, if youād like.
lilac05- Will you keep trying the number that was disconnected? I've given money to help people get their phones turned back on. I'm pretty sure that this person might have the same number.
lilac05- Will you keep trying the number that was disconnected? I've given money to help people get their phones turned back on. I'm pretty sure that this person might have the same number.
I hope so! It wasnāt in my call pile, so I canāt say for sure. But anyone who doesnāt answer gets put in a pile to call the next time.
Which is a good PSA: If you know anyone on any list, answer ALL phone calls! We canāt leave messages because thereās no one there to answer the calls at other times, so if they donāt answer when we call (and then try again when weāre done for the day), they get skipped. At this clinic, the calls go in order that they were received, so theyāll be among the first that are called the next scheduling day...but I would imagine that in many places, they go to the bottom of the pile. I was amazed that MOST people actually answered...but I know I often donāt answer unknown numbers as I figure theyāre spam.
lilac05- Are you volunteering for this? This sounds like a good way to help.
Yes! Itās volunteering at a free health clinic in our area.
Iām currently trying to figure out how they are letting people know the availability there so that the ārightā people are getting it. I believe theyāve contacted everyone who has gotten services before, but another local non-profit that I volunteer for didnāt know this was available until I sent them the info tonight. Itās a lot to manage when itās done almost solely by volunteers...so I donāt blame them at all. Itās a weird place to be when you just want to get it into arms...but I also want to make space for it to go to people who have more barriers to get it, not just all of the volunteerās friends.
I think the envelopes and the hand-written pleas to be added to the list will be forever in my mind as well as the sounds of joy and relief when I told them why I was calling. (Though one guy wasnāt initially going to let me talk to his wife because he thought I was just calling to ask for money, and they didnāt have any to spare.) Part of me wants to say that the system is so broken, but the other part of me says that today was a reminder that there ARE parts that are working. Those people ARE getting their vaccines in the same window as everyone else in their eligibility group.
I just got my covid-19 antibody test results back from my Red Cross blood donation, 13 days post single dose J&J vaccine: negative. (I have no reason to think Iāve had covid.)
lilac05- Are you volunteering for this? This sounds like a good way to help.
Yes! Itās volunteering at a free health clinic in our area.
Iām currently trying to figure out how they are letting people know the availability there so that the ārightā people are getting it. I believe theyāve contacted everyone who has gotten services before, but another local non-profit that I volunteer for didnāt know this was available until I sent them the info tonight. Itās a lot to manage when itās done almost solely by volunteers...so I donāt blame them at all. Itās a weird place to be when you just want to get it into arms...but I also want to make space for it to go to people who have more barriers to get it, not just all of the volunteerās friends.
I think the envelopes and the hand-written pleas to be added to the list will be forever in my mind as well as the sounds of joy and relief when I told them why I was calling. (Though one guy wasnāt initially going to let me talk to his wide because he thought I was just calling to ask for money, and they didnāt have any to spare.) Part of me wants to say that the system is so broken, but the other part of me says that today was a reminder that there ARE parts that are working. Those people ARE getting their vaccines in the same window as everyone else in their eligibility group.
Post by mcppalmbeach on Mar 24, 2021 23:09:35 GMT -5
So...my friend went to a retail chain today and said it was wide open, shot given, no questions asked and to book myself even though Iām not in an eligibility group. She said everyone there was young and she doubted they were all in eligibility groups. Site just opened and I went to schedule dh because he has to take a driving business trip next week and heās nervous about it..:and I couldnāt do it. I hate being an ethical person. We are having so much crap luck as a family and Iām so depressed for all of us. I know weāre close. Everything just feels really hard.
Yay, I am so relieved I just helped my Dad get an appointment set up for Monday. Itās such a relief since he had a bad case of Covid (but just avoided hospitalization) and I was really worried about him catching it again and it being worse. Now I just need my stepmom and me to get vaccines and the adults in my immediate family will be vaccinated!
I volunteered to help at a weekend clinic in a few weeks so I have my fingers crossed that maybe Iāll be able to get vaccinated then, but if not Iāll do the searching on 5/1.
So...my friend went to a retail chain today and said it was wide open, shot given, no questions asked and to book myself even though Iām not in an eligibility group. She said everyone there was young and she doubted they were all in eligibility groups. Site just opened and I went to schedule dh because he has to take a driving business trip next week and heās nervous about it..:and I couldnāt do it. I hate being an ethical person. We are having so much crap luck as a family and Iām so depressed for all of us. I know weāre close. Everything just feels really hard.
I feel this period is harder than a couple months ago when everybody but the most critical people were getting it. I too have been hearing about how there are hundreds of open appointments and to "just go!!!" and feel like a chump. But then, I check those appointments a day or two later and they are mostly gone, so I think it's false justification.
Mine was negative, but the test said reactive. I was 2 weeks post second dose of moderna
This reminded me to check on my donation I made at the beginning of March. Mine also says reactive. I was almost 3 weeks past my second Moderna.
The last time I had a blood draw for labwork (not covid related), the tech doing the draw mentioned there are two different tests locally - one shows antibodies from vaccines, along with Covid antibodies, one shows only Covid antibodies from having had Covid.
Maybe the Red Cross is using the one that tests only for Covid antibodies from having had Covid.
This reminded me to check on my donation I made at the beginning of March. Mine also says reactive. I was almost 3 weeks past my second Moderna.
The last time I had a blood draw for labwork (not covid related), the tech doing the draw mentioned there are two different tests locally - one shows antibodies from vaccines, along with Covid antibodies, one shows only Covid antibodies from having had Covid.
Maybe the Red Cross is using the one that tests only for Covid antibodies from having had Covid.
They are doing both. Hereās their explanation of a reactive result. It sounds like reactive is what youād expect to see post vaccination.
Reactive test result: Indicates that your initial antibody test was reactive for COVID-19 antibodies. The Red Cross uses two antibody tests to generate our results. While it is uncommon, some donations may not complete both tests due to processing issues. The initial test detects antibodies to the spike protein of the virus, that are produced in response to viral infection or the vaccine. The other detects antibodies to a different part of the virus called the nucleocapsid protein, which are produced in response to infection, but not by the current vaccines. If a donor has had the COVID-19 vaccine, they will generate antibodies against the spike protein but not the nucleocapsid protein, which will only occur in the event of a COVID-19 infection. A reactive result on the antibody test usually requires about one to three weeks from the receipt of the first dose of a vaccine.