Another thing that annoys me: NYC is arguably the fifth main SATC character.
So STAHP with the Paris nonsense.
Did I miss other Paris references other than the last episode? I just assumed that was a nod to the OG series finale.
In the episode where she met the neighbor and went in her apartment, Carrie got out her dress from Paris, showed it to Seema and referred back to how she did wear it in Paris? IDK lol. I don't think the show has had a big focus on Paris...
I personally loved those moments of that episode. That dress was amazing then, and um. it aged very well because it looked amazing in her apt while she ate crackers and cheese (and I agreed with her doing that!)
Post by fivechickens on Feb 6, 2022 16:25:41 GMT -5
I thought Paris was always a place Carrie wanted to go visit. Didn’t she have an Effiel Tower keychain? She was going to go with Big but then he was being Big and then he met his 2nd wife there.. Then she went with Aleksander Petrovsky. Big confess his undying love for her in Paris.
So, H’s good friend from college owns a fancy clothing storage business and apparently SJP stores the outfits she’s kept of Carrie’s with them.
I watched the documentary of And Just Like That and the clothing director (or whatever her title is) went to the storage unit. I think she kept all the clothes.
So, back to Miranda being frustrating. I was really irritated at her insistence that Carrie couldn't possibily believe that Big was in heaven and watching over her. If someone grieving a loved one feels better thinking that they are someplace nice, what's the harm? I know Carrie has been annoying about constantly saying "my husband died" but... her husband died. I get that it doesn't make exciting TV to watch someone be sad, but I would hope friends IRL would be kinder.
Also Miranda is like the biggest hypocrite telling Carrie that she is doing/believing something inconsistent with her previous beliefs. Miranda's mid-life crisis is a little bigger than just being comforted by the idea that your late H is still around. Giving up that internship to follow her new infatuation across the country is just crazy. Did she not watch The Hills? Che is not a realistic future for her.
All that said, I overall did enjoy this show and hope it get renewed. It certainly has its flaws but it's entertaining enough.
I assumed that the kiss at the end was jumping forward in time and that it wasn't their first kiss. Like maybe it's a few months later and they are dating now, and this was just a surprise reveal for the viewers.
Definitely a flash forward. There was a vibe at the party/wedding, then she was obviously working on her solo podcast and presumably it wasn’t the first episode. Their kiss seemed natural enough to not have been the first.
I assumed that the kiss at the end was jumping forward in time and that it wasn't their first kiss. Like maybe it's a few months later and they are dating now, and this was just a surprise reveal for the viewers.
Definitely a flash forward. There was a vibe at the party/wedding, then she was obviously working on her solo podcast and presumably it wasn’t the first episode. Their kiss seemed natural enough to not have been the first.
it was her first episode - they were talking about how it was the first and she will eventually get better etc So it was forward in time a bit, but I thought the main point was a sudden /spontaneous/unexpected kiss which was such a contrast to the date and the “can I kiss you?” asking for permission that she wasn’t vibing with.
So, back to Miranda being frustrating. I was really irritated at her insistence that Carrie couldn't possibily believe that Big was in heaven and watching over her. If someone grieving a loved one feels better thinking that they are someplace nice, what's the harm? I know Carrie has been annoying about constantly saying "my husband died" but... her husband died. I get that it doesn't make exciting TV to watch someone be sad, but I would hope friends IRL would be kinder.
Also Miranda is like the biggest hypocrite telling Carrie that she is doing/believing something inconsistent with her previous beliefs. Miranda's mid-life crisis is a little bigger than just being comforted by the idea that your late H is still around. Giving up that internship to follow her new infatuation across the country is just crazy. Did she not watch The Hills? Che is not a realistic future for her.
All that said, I overall did enjoy this show and hope it get renewed. It certainly has its flaws but it's entertaining enough.
This totally bothered me too. Like get your head out of your ass for a second.
Post by mcppalmbeach on Feb 6, 2022 23:13:26 GMT -5
So much to dislike, but I love bad tv so clearly I’ll keep watching. I feel like there was discussion that we were going to find out Big had been keeping secrets and I thought the Natasha money would just lead to something more interesting. Lots of disappointments. I also think the Samantha thing is kind of a tease, but maybe we’ll get to keep hearing her voice in texts.
Definitely a flash forward. There was a vibe at the party/wedding, then she was obviously working on her solo podcast and presumably it wasn’t the first episode. Their kiss seemed natural enough to not have been the first.
it was her first episode - they were talking about how it was the first and she will eventually get better etc So it was forward in time a bit, but I thought the main point was a sudden /spontaneous/unexpected kiss which was such a contrast to the date and the “can I kiss you?” asking for permission that she wasn’t vibing with.
Ahh, missed the first episode piece but I still assume some time had passed and they were dating. Just seemed like a familiar kiss to me.
I had so many issues with this show that I had to stop watching it at Episode 8. It made no sense and the writers/producers trying to tell me that it’s because I dislike a non-binary person (no) or that I don’t get their edgy writing (??) as the real issue is so insulting.
There was no cohesiveness to the entire season. I’m honestly baffled by the entire production.
What was the core of this series? For SATC, it was the friendship between the women. It was not the core of AJLT. If it was, we’d be seeing conversations between Miranda and Charlotte about how Carrie was handling Big’s death. Or we’d see more than a shrugging conversation about Miranda’s drinking between Charlotte and Carrie. The topic of Miranda behaving so out of character would have been something that Charlotte and Carrie would have discussed and offered opposing/empathizing viewpoints on. So, okay… throw out the idea that series had anything to do with the friendship between these women.
Was it about how people can act at 55? That’s a fine series but it seems like they felt they had to paint the stories on characters we already knew to sell HBO on the idea. So… widowhood, sexual awakening, and difficult children will go to Carrie, Miranda, and Charlotte respectively. Lo and behold, that meant that they had to remove the original glue of SATC (the friendship) and change the characters to achieve their goals.
And now they’re surprised that people didn’t like that? Alrighty then, says Trey McDougal.
So, back to Miranda being frustrating. I was really irritated at her insistence that Carrie couldn't possibily believe that Big was in heaven and watching over her. If someone grieving a loved one feels better thinking that they are someplace nice, what's the harm? I know Carrie has been annoying about constantly saying "my husband died" but... her husband died. I get that it doesn't make exciting TV to watch someone be sad, but I would hope friends IRL would be kinder.
Also Miranda is like the biggest hypocrite telling Carrie that she is doing/believing something inconsistent with her previous beliefs. Miranda's mid-life crisis is a little bigger than just being comforted by the idea that your late H is still around. Giving up that internship to follow her new infatuation across the country is just crazy. Did she not watch The Hills? Che is not a realistic future for her.
All that said, I overall did enjoy this show and hope it get renewed. It certainly has its flaws but it's entertaining enough.
I've thought more about the bolded. My dad died a little over a year ago (October) and my stepmother is still struggling with it, so much. He was the love of her life. Every Sunday and Monday are HARD for her (he came home from the hospital on a Sunday and died the next day). When I look at it through that lens - yeah... I get it. It's not exciting TV but maybe it's "real" TV. It can take a LOT of time for people to really be able to move forward after a devastating loss.
But who looks to SATC for realism? It's always been escapism entertainment. The audience the show cultivated is looking for that tonal consistency. To joy's point, why use these characters to tell these stories? I get annoyed with the defense "in real life, people change in 20 years". Of course. But this isn't real life. It's a TV show. Real life people don't owe you consistency, but when you have a tv show you shouldn't radically change a character off screen and then shrug, "it's been awhile". We need to watch the character arc or it's lazy bullshit. If you don't want to honor the characters you developed and got us attached to, make new characters.
So, back to Miranda being frustrating. I was really irritated at her insistence that Carrie couldn't possibily believe that Big was in heaven and watching over her. If someone grieving a loved one feels better thinking that they are someplace nice, what's the harm? I know Carrie has been annoying about constantly saying "my husband died" but... her husband died. I get that it doesn't make exciting TV to watch someone be sad, but I would hope friends IRL would be kinder.
Also Miranda is like the biggest hypocrite telling Carrie that she is doing/believing something inconsistent with her previous beliefs. Miranda's mid-life crisis is a little bigger than just being comforted by the idea that your late H is still around. Giving up that internship to follow her new infatuation across the country is just crazy. Did she not watch The Hills? Che is not a realistic future for her.
All that said, I overall did enjoy this show and hope it get renewed. It certainly has its flaws but it's entertaining enough.
I've thought more about the bolded. My dad died a little over a year ago (October) and my stepmother is still struggling with it, so much. He was the love of her life. Every Sunday and Monday are HARD for her (he came home from the hospital on a Sunday and died the next day). When I look at it through that lens - yeah... I get it. It's not exciting TV but maybe it's "real" TV. It can take a LOT of time for people to really be able to move forward after a devastating loss.
It would’ve been so much better if they had real conversations about Big’s death instead of just weird jabs in passing. They started to do with with the whole after life thing, but that took a weird turn IMO.
I am baffled why she would spread his ashes in Paris. Their life was in NYC. That just seems so odd. Did I miss something?
It was where they reunited for the last time before staying together, she referred to it as "our bridge" so I took that to mean they'd traveled there multiple times in their marriage and it was a special place to them.
it was her first episode - they were talking about how it was the first and she will eventually get better etc So it was forward in time a bit, but I thought the main point was a sudden /spontaneous/unexpected kiss which was such a contrast to the date and the “can I kiss you?” asking for permission that she wasn’t vibing with.
Ahh, missed the first episode piece but I still assume so time had passed and they were dating. Just seemed like a familiar kiss to me.
It seemed familiar to me, too. Did not have that first kiss vibe. I thought it was more of a "we're alone now, lets celebrate!" vibe. Even if it was the first episode, presumably they would have had to do some prep/discussion ahead of time and may have developed a romance then.
So, back to Miranda being frustrating. I was really irritated at her insistence that Carrie couldn't possibily believe that Big was in heaven and watching over her. If someone grieving a loved one feels better thinking that they are someplace nice, what's the harm? I know Carrie has been annoying about constantly saying "my husband died" but... her husband died. I get that it doesn't make exciting TV to watch someone be sad, but I would hope friends IRL would be kinder.
Also Miranda is like the biggest hypocrite telling Carrie that she is doing/believing something inconsistent with her previous beliefs. Miranda's mid-life crisis is a little bigger than just being comforted by the idea that your late H is still around. Giving up that internship to follow her new infatuation across the country is just crazy. Did she not watch The Hills? Che is not a realistic future for her.
All that said, I overall did enjoy this show and hope it get renewed. It certainly has its flaws but it's entertaining enough.
I've thought more about the bolded. My dad died a little over a year ago (October) and my stepmother is still struggling with it, so much. He was the love of her life. Every Sunday and Monday are HARD for her (he came home from the hospital on a Sunday and died the next day). When I look at it through that lens - yeah... I get it. It's not exciting TV but maybe it's "real" TV. It can take a LOT of time for people to really be able to move forward after a devastating loss.
Yes - and I think real TV is ok! That IS something many people in middle age (or even younger, for that matter) deal with. It's not something you get over quickly. I imagine a lot of viewers could relate to Carrie. I honestly think it would have been more weird to have her just bounce back and pretend like nothing happened.
Maybe it would have made "better" tv if they started with the premise that he had died a few years ago and she was starting to date again. Then we could watch the silly dating stuff the original series had and drop the heaviness. IDK.
I am baffled why she would spread his ashes in Paris. Their life was in NYC. That just seems so odd. Did I miss something?
I mean...there is a big post up above about keeping the characters consistent with their arcs and yet now here we are with posters who are confused about why Carrie would go back to Paris? Really? Do you guys NOT remember the HUGE story arc where she MOVED TO PARIS and Big went there to profess his love to her--thus beginning their committed lives together? Yeah, their life was in NYC but the beginning of their lives started in Paris. It wasn't a small thing and this is directly connecting to the previous arcs and consistency to the characters and storylines. Are we bitching about change or consistency?
Where else would she have put his ashes in NYC? Her stoop where he'd stop by in the car?
Also, practically IDK if anyone has tried to get rid of ashes but I have a cat and a dog who are just waiting to be released and figuring out a place to let them go is actually quite hard--and that's a pet. Not a human companion you spent 15 years with.
I am baffled why she would spread his ashes in Paris. Their life was in NYC. That just seems so odd. Did I miss something?
I mean...there is a big post up above about keeping the characters consistent with their arcs and yet now here we are with posters who are confused about why Carrie would go back to Paris? Really? Do you guys NOT remember the HUGE story arc where she MOVED TO PARIS and Big went there to profess his love to her--thus beginning their committed lives together? Yeah, their life was in NYC but the beginning of their lives started in Paris. It wasn't a small thing and this is directly connecting to the previous arcs and consistency to the characters and storylines. Are we bitching about change or consistency?
Where else would she have put his ashes in NYC? Her stoop where he'd stop by in the car?
Also, practically IDK if anyone has tried to get rid of ashes but I have a cat and a dog who are just waiting to be released and figuring out a place to let them go is actually quite hard--and that's a pet. Not a human companion you spent 15 years with.
Well, I mean, fair enough. I'm not like mad about it, lol. I know Paris was important to them, I was just thinking she would like his remains to be closer to where they spent the majority of their life. It's obviously her choice. Or the writers' choice, ha.
Post by fivechickens on Feb 7, 2022 15:28:06 GMT -5
I always wondered where they got the ‘And Just Like That’ title. After rewatching SATC, I never realized how much she said ‘And just like that….’ at the end of most of the episodes.
I just saw an announcement. I don't think a second season is necessary.
I’ll watch it lol. #noshame
. oh, I’ll still watch it. I’ll roll my eyes the whole time about how awful it is ( and it will be very, very awful), but I’ll definitely still be watching. 🤣
. oh, I’ll still watch it. I’ll roll my eyes the whole time about how awful it is ( and it will be very, very awful), but I’ll definitely still be watching. 🤣
i hope they’ll pay attention to how people reacted to the first season and will make some changes.
But I’ll hate watch even if they don’t! I’m a sucker for punishment.
Has anyone watches the first 2 episodes of season 2 yet?
I wonder if they are going to have Miranda stay in California long term and how that will work with only having 2 of the original 4 in NYC interacting with each other? I think it would be great if they had Smith Jerrod do a cameo - run into Miranda in LA.
Carrie’s podcast. I know nothing about podcasts but it seems so unlikely that they would cancel every podcast that recorded in a studio because Carrie didn’t want to do 1 advertisement especially that quickly when she was actively rewriting it like they told her she could… that just seemed extreme.