Russia/Ukraine

[Velar Fricative]

Mar 2, 2022 12:56:27 GMT -5 cattledogkisses said:

Mar 2, 2022 12:03:57 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

UN General Assembly voted in favor of condemning Russia's invasion. 141 in favor, 5 against, 35 abstentions. The 5 against were:

Russia
Belarus
North Korea
Syria
Eritrea (the only surprising one on the list but I admit I don't know much about their relationship with Russia)

The abstentions were overwhelmingly African and Latin American countries that I believe have close economic relationships with Russia. The rest were Central Asian countries that used to be part of the USSR. Several additional countries that might have voted against or abstained weren't present (like Venezuela and Uzbekistan).

Where did you find the results? I’m curious about Serbia. 

Twitter, but I posted as soon as the vote happened so now the full list is here. Serbia voted in favor(!!!). 


www.axios.com/united-nations-ukraine-russia-141-55872481-a143-4423-9d3d-80450f01c754.html

[Velar Fricative]

This video is wild. First part is resident reaction to Russian soldier casually walking through a small Ukrainian town holding up grenades, the second part is the mayor of the town yelling for everyone to join the fight.

www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/02/world/ukraine-russia-war/mayor-in-ukraine-asks-his-citys-residents-whether-they-wish-to-fight-or-surrender

[meli554]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what does it mean that Russia may default on foreign debt? This level of economics is way over my head.

[bears]

Mar 2, 2022 12:55:35 GMT -5 anodyne said:

Excuse my ignorance, but what is an iron dome? Is it a singular piece of equipment? Could we supply Ukraine with one or some?

Iron dome is the protective air defense system Israel has that can shoot rockets out of the sky before they hit their targets. It is massively expensive and doesn't protect against missiles, I believe. This seems to be a good overview of Iron Dome: www.vox.com/22435973/israel-iron-dome-explained

[carmenere]

Mar 2, 2022 13:22:17 GMT -5 meli554 said:

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what does it mean that Russia may default on foreign debt? This level of economics is way over my head.

Russia has sold bonds (basically borrowed money) to other countries, organizations and individual investors to finance its government operations, with the promise to pay interest and eventually pay back the face value. So if Russia defaults, everyone who holds bonds won't get their money. Obviously that's a big headache for anyone who owns a lot of Russian debt, and could potentially cause ripple effects of instability in the markets. It also hurts Russia's ability to borrow money in the future. However I believe Russia doesn't have a huge amount of foreign debt, in part because they defaulted in the late 90's (but I could be wrong about that)

[bears]

Mar 2, 2022 13:51:11 GMT -5 bears said:

Mar 2, 2022 12:55:35 GMT -5 anodyne said:

Excuse my ignorance, but what is an iron dome? Is it a singular piece of equipment? Could we supply Ukraine with one or some?

Iron dome is the protective air defense system Israel has that can shoot rockets out of the sky before they hit their targets. It is massively expensive and doesn't protect against missiles, I believe. This seems to be a good overview of Iron Dome: www.vox.com/22435973/israel-iron-dome-explained

Also, Ukraine tried to buy Iron Dome, bit its sale was blocked by Israel. Israel is really nervous about offending Russia right now due to their links with Syria.

www.timesofisrael.com/israel-torpedoed-sale-of-iron-dome-to-ukraine-fearing-russian-reaction-report/

[midwestmama]

Mar 1, 2022 19:22:01 GMT -5 rebneen said:

Mar 1, 2022 18:47:55 GMT -5 marie said:

I just read that bombs hit a holocaust museum. I am crying thinking about important memories and facts that may be lost that were stored there. I hope it didn't actually happen, but this is really hard to hear.

It’s worse than that. I can barely type it.

The memorial at Babyn Yar, the site of the largest mass extermination outside of the camps. An entire village was executed - wiped off the map. 34,000 Jews killed.

This gives me chills.  One set of my great-great grandparents left Lithuania in the late 1800s to escape the pogroms there against Jews.  Obviously, some family was still living there after they left.  My grandpa kept a letter from one of his cousins that details how some of my great-great grandma's sister's family was forced out of their village by Russians.  If I remember correctly, the letter said the sister's grandfather-in-law fell down while walking and a Russian soldier kicked him off to the side of the road and wouldn't let anyone help him.  

[Velar Fricative]

NYT alert - Kherson has fallen to Russian troops.

[bears]

Interesting thread on the Russian aviation sector:

This is backed up by Reuters and other articles as well, but the Twitter thread lays it out well, IMO. www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-suspends-parts-maintenance-russian-airlines-its-aviation-sector-isolated-2022-03-02/

[gretchenindisguise]

Mar 2, 2022 15:19:46 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

NYT alert - Kherson has fallen to Russian troops.

Devastating. The pleas from the mayors in Ukraine is heartwrenching. 

[Velar Fricative]

China was like “Hey Russia, kindly hold off on the invasion until we host our problematic Olympics.”

www.nytimes.com/2022/03/02/us/politics/russia-ukraine-china.html

[kath16]

Mar 2, 2022 15:35:33 GMT -5 bears said:

Interesting thread on the Russian aviation sector:

This is backed up by Reuters and other articles as well, but the Twitter thread lays it out well, IMO. www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-suspends-parts-maintenance-russian-airlines-its-aviation-sector-isolated-2022-03-02/

i am trying desperately to understand the implications of this. 

this is for commercial airlines, correct? so this is talking about the industry of air travel within and to/from russia? and we don't know how long it would take to try to bounce back, is what this expert is saying?

it has nothing to do with air born attacks or anything directly related to war, right? it's all commercial flights and domestic and international passenger (civilian) travel 

I swear I'm not trying to be purposely obtuse. 

[bears]

Mar 2, 2022 16:32:30 GMT -5 kath16 said:

Mar 2, 2022 15:35:33 GMT -5 bears said:

Interesting thread on the Russian aviation sector:

This is backed up by Reuters and other articles as well, but the Twitter thread lays it out well, IMO. www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-suspends-parts-maintenance-russian-airlines-its-aviation-sector-isolated-2022-03-02/

i am trying desperately to understand the implications of this. 

this is for commercial airlines, correct? so this is talking about the industry of air travel within and to/from russia? and we don't know how long it would take to try to bounce back, is what this expert is saying?

it has nothing to do with air born attacks or anything directly related to war, right? it's all commercial flights and domestic and international passenger (civilian) travel 

I swear I'm not trying to be purposely obtuse. 

Yes, this is talking about commercial aircraft.

[mala]

Mar 2, 2022 16:32:30 GMT -5 kath16 said:

Mar 2, 2022 15:35:33 GMT -5 bears said:

Interesting thread on the Russian aviation sector:

This is backed up by Reuters and other articles as well, but the Twitter thread lays it out well, IMO. www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-suspends-parts-maintenance-russian-airlines-its-aviation-sector-isolated-2022-03-02/

i am trying desperately to understand the implications of this. 

this is for commercial airlines, correct? so this is talking about the industry of air travel within and to/from russia? and we don't know how long it would take to try to bounce back, is what this expert is saying?

it has nothing to do with air born attacks or anything directly related to war, right? it's all commercial flights and domestic and international passenger (civilian) travel 

I swear I'm not trying to be purposely obtuse. 

Within Russia, the entire airline industry is poised to collapse as nobody can get spare parts. They're going to start dismantling aircraft to use the parts on others, but flights within Russia are going to come to a major slowdown if not a total halt. Additionally, many airlines lease their aircraft, and without commercial flights, they're not going to have money to pay for them, and that's going to have a ripple effect on the companies they're renting from.  This will happen to both passenger and cargo flights, so supply chains in Russia will be affected as well.  Flights in and out of Russia are already almost non-existant but it's going to become even more difficult soon.

[Velar Fricative]

So I guess unless you want to take the train along the Trans-Siberian Railway, those in Russia’s Far East are really going to be isolated from the rest of their hugeass country? Maybe they’re okay with being almost entirely inaccessible to Putin though?

[neverfstop]

Per the guardian

Congressional officials told NBC that the US had delivered more than 200 of the missiles on Monday:

The package also includes Javelin anti-tank missiles and ammunition, both of which the Ukrainian government has said they need to fight off advancing Russian military.

Germany announced last weekend that they are sending 500 stinger missiles to Ukraine, as well.

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Also something to smile about... Oligarch's yacht seized by Germany

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[dirtyred]

The 40km Russian convoy outside of the capital "appears to have made no discernable progress in the last 3 days."

Also, someone has listed a used Russian tank on ebay for $400K.

i.redd.it/vbxd4dqdj5l81.jpg

[mrsd2006]

Mar 3, 2022 9:27:46 GMT -5 dirtyred said:

The 40km Russian convoy outside of the capital "appears to have made no discernable progress in the last 3 days."

Also, someone has listed a used Russian tank on ebay for $400K.

i.redd.it/vbxd4dqdj5l81.jpg

Related? ?LOL.

www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-tax-office-says-captured-russian-tanks-dont-have-declared-1684278

Ukrainian Tax Office Says Captured Russian Tanks Don't Have to Be Declared

Ukraine's tax agency announced on Tuesday that citizens do not have to declare captured Russian tanks and other equipment as income.



The statement from Ukraine's National Agency for the Protection Against Corruption (NAPC) said such seized items from the Russian military will not be subject to taxation. Instead, the office encouraged people to continue fighting for Ukraine.

[Bernadine]

Mar 3, 2022 9:27:46 GMT -5 dirtyred said:

The 40km Russian convoy outside of the capital "appears to have made no discernable progress in the last 3 days."

Also, someone has listed a used Russian tank on ebay for $400K.

i.redd.it/vbxd4dqdj5l81.jpg

Just curious- did the source say why it hasn’t made progress?

[mrsd2006]

Mar 3, 2022 13:09:16 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

Mar 3, 2022 9:27:46 GMT -5 dirtyred said:

The 40km Russian convoy outside of the capital "appears to have made no discernable progress in the last 3 days."

Also, someone has listed a used Russian tank on ebay for $400K.

i.redd.it/vbxd4dqdj5l81.jpg

Just curious- did the source say why it hasn’t made progress?

From CNN:


The US still believes a large Russian military convoy headed toward Kyiv is “stalled,” a senior US defense official told reporters on Thursday.



The official said the US has “no reason to doubt Ukrainian claims” that they have “contributed” to the convoy being stalled by attacking it, the official said.



“We still assess that the convoy that everybody’s been focused on is stalled. We have no reason to doubt Ukrainian claims that they have, that they have contributed to it being stalled by attacking it,” the official said.

[dirtyred]

Mar 3, 2022 13:09:16 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

Mar 3, 2022 9:27:46 GMT -5 dirtyred said:

The 40km Russian convoy outside of the capital "appears to have made no discernable progress in the last 3 days."

Also, someone has listed a used Russian tank on ebay for $400K.

i.redd.it/vbxd4dqdj5l81.jpg

Just curious- did the source say why it hasn’t made progress?

Theorized lack of supplies and poor morale.

[icedcoffee]

Putin is a monster.

[jlt19]

Mar 3, 2022 20:12:53 GMT -5 icedcoffee said:

Putin is a monster.

CNN says the White House is “monitoring it”. Not sure what good that can possibly do. It’s not like even if we decided to step in, we could stop it without blowing it up too!

[icedcoffee]

Mar 3, 2022 20:29:49 GMT -5 jlt19 said:

Mar 3, 2022 20:12:53 GMT -5 icedcoffee said:

Putin is a monster.

CNN says the White House is “monitoring it”. Not sure what good that can possibly do. It’s not like even if we decided to step in, we could stop it without blowing it up too!

Isn’t blowing up a nuclear power plant like just as bad as nuclear weapons? Someone make it stop!

[lilac05]

icedcoffee, I was REALLY hoping that was a fake tweet. I feel sick. My go-to source on Instagram for a calm response to craziness (@sharonsayso) has shared the info, too. I just don’t see how this is going to end well…for anyone.

[cous0226]

This is awful. Do we have a red line because all of this is unbearable. NPP on fire seems alarming.

[lilac05]

www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/mar/03/ukraine-news-russia-war-vladimir-putin-biden-latest-live-updates-kherson-kyiv-kharkiv-refugees-russian-invasion?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-62216e588f08c1dd5f65a94b#block-62216e588f08c1dd5f65a94b

“Radiation and fire safety conditions at nuclear power plants are within normal limits.

Fire condition at the NPP is normal.” (From the agency’s official Telegram account per The Guardian)

[kath16]

Mar 3, 2022 13:17:41 GMT -5 mrsd2006 said:

Mar 3, 2022 13:09:16 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

Just curious- did the source say why it hasn’t made progress?

From CNN:


The US still believes a large Russian military convoy headed toward Kyiv is “stalled,” a senior US defense official told reporters on Thursday.



The official said the US has “no reason to doubt Ukrainian claims” that they have “contributed” to the convoy being stalled by attacking it, the official said.



“We still assess that the convoy that everybody’s been focused on is stalled. We have no reason to doubt Ukrainian claims that they have, that they have contributed to it being stalled by attacking it,” the official said.

when they're all stretched out in basically a single-file line like that, wouldn't it kinda make sense to just... blow up roads in front of them? take out bridges, etc? like... the convoy in broad daylight seems like an unwise strategy for war. 

[lust2hart]

Mar 4, 2022 8:02:33 GMT -5 kath16 said:

Mar 3, 2022 13:17:41 GMT -5 mrsd2006 said:

From CNN:


The US still believes a large Russian military convoy headed toward Kyiv is “stalled,” a senior US defense official told reporters on Thursday.



The official said the US has “no reason to doubt Ukrainian claims” that they have “contributed” to the convoy being stalled by attacking it, the official said.



“We still assess that the convoy that everybody’s been focused on is stalled. We have no reason to doubt Ukrainian claims that they have, that they have contributed to it being stalled by attacking it,” the official said.

when they're all stretched out in basically a single-file line like that, wouldn't it kinda make sense to just... blow up roads in front of them? take out bridges, etc? like... the convoy in broad daylight seems like an unwise strategy for war. 

This question has been on my mind the past couple of days as well, although I'll confess I've been thinking more along the lines of taking out the convoy itself vs. roads/bridges. I wonder if Ukraine figures it's not worth spending the supplies on a convoy that's not going anywhere anyway.

[mbcdefg]