TW @: Uvalde School Shooting 5/24/22

[EvieEthelGarland]

May 26, 2022 16:55:07 GMT -5 TamiTaylor said:

May 26, 2022 16:49:19 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Yeah they’re back to being heroes until the next school board meeting about CRT or the next time they ask for collective bargaining rights.

And for the people who want to arm teacher I am just confused because they don’t trust us to choose curriculum, comfort children in crisis, or even teach in general….but they will trust us with firearms and protecting lives.

From my (suburban Seattle) district's FB page: "As the people that would choose to arm themselves most likely align with my view of the world, yes. Those who pick library books now, not so much."

I'm not quite sure why he's outing conservatives as people that don't read, but the pride is unsurprising. 

[rondonalddo]

Sheriffs came out against permitless carry in multiple states. Republican legislatures have voted in favor of it (maybe in every case where it's come up? Not sure) anyway. (Not that being against permitless carry is a super radical position, but that's kind of my point.)

[isabel]

May 26, 2022 8:09:43 GMT -5 cville said:

I can't believe this fucking country. The idea is that our kids have to be educated in reinforced prison-like complexes instead of TAKING AWAY GUNS? No. I reject that shit with every fiber of my being. We reinforce the doors and then there's the windows. We reinforce the doors then kids can't get out. We reinforce the doors because people are deranged and afraid of a world without their precious multiple military grade guns (don't even get me started on the "not military" because if not it wouldn't take militarized police en masse to have stopped him)? But we don't GET RID OF THE THINGS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO DO NOTHING BUT KILL?

Fuck everything.

[isabel]

I know it’s hand wringing, but what do I do? I donate, I call. How do we just go about life like normal? This is… more than I can put into words. This week has left me hollowed.

[seeyalater52]

May 26, 2022 20:09:51 GMT -5 isabel said:

I know it’s hand wringing, but what do I do? I donate, I call. How do we just go about life like normal? This is… more than I can put into words. This week has left me hollowed.

This is maybe a stupid answer but I’m choosing to let it all hang out. This is collective trauma we are experiencing, on top of a shitload of other collective and also individual traumas that are accumulating at a rapid rate. I refuse to pretend I’m fine and this is normal. I refuse to put on a happy face and make small talk and push it all down until the emotions get snuffed out. I’m fucking done with that. I’m leaking at the seams and it’s honestly the only thing that I think will finally get us all to focus on fixing this forever: we can’t keep moving on and living our lives with this in the background.

And obviously vote and donate and all that. Just my take though, and I’m pretty wildly unfiltered right now so maybe it’s a bad one.

[dancingirl21]

You know what else I keep thinking about? I’ve seen the argument so many times: gun control won’t work. If these people want guns, they will get them.

But no. They won’t. Not if the assault rifles are illegal to purchase. They aren’t hardened criminals with access to a large group of people that can get guns illegally. They are (mostly) teenage and slightly older boys walking into their local *enter store name here* and buying assault rifles, easier than if they were to try and buy a 6-pack. That is just insane.

[biscoffcookies]

May 26, 2022 20:42:36 GMT -5 dancingirl21 said:

You know what else I keep thinking about? I’ve seen the argument so many times: gun control won’t work. If these people want guns, they will get them.

But no. They won’t. Not if the assault rifles are illegal to purchase. They aren’t hardened criminals with access to a large group of people that can get guns illegally. They are (mostly) teenage and slightly older boys walking into their local *enter store name here* and buying assault rifles, easier than if they were to try and buy a 6-pack. That is just insane.

I want to scream when I hear politicians say there is no point to gun control on the premise it won’t be 100% effective. No law is. But we don’t let that stop us when it comes to drugs, or assault, or domestic violence, or fraud, or or or or.

Honest to god I just wish they’d come out and be honest. If you are cool with my child being slaughtered so you can continue to get campaign donations and keep your job and have your party stay in power, JUST SAY IT. The end result is the same but at least I don’t have to weather your disingenuous BS on top of everything else.

[Patsy Baloney]

May 26, 2022 20:15:05 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

May 26, 2022 20:09:51 GMT -5 isabel said:

I know it’s hand wringing, but what do I do? I donate, I call. How do we just go about life like normal? This is… more than I can put into words. This week has left me hollowed.

This is maybe a stupid answer but I’m choosing to let it all hang out. This is collective trauma we are experiencing, on top of a shitload of other collective and also individual traumas that are accumulating at a rapid rate. I refuse to pretend I’m fine and this is normal. I refuse to put on a happy face and make small talk and push it all down until the emotions get snuffed out. I’m fucking done with that. I’m leaking at the seams and it’s honestly the only thing that I think will finally get us all to focus on fixing this forever: we can’t keep moving on and living our lives with this in the background.

And obviously vote and donate and all that. Just my take though, and I’m pretty wildly unfiltered right now so maybe it’s a bad one.

My bitch ass has been a big fat bitch on Twitter for something like 14 years now and cultivated a family friendly image on the rest of my social media/social life. Not any more! Welcome, 24/7 Twitter Bitch, my personality Venn diagram is 1 circle and I’m ready to pop off at all times. I fully support letting ‘er rip. It’s stupid to pretend like we should just carry on when people are murdered by guns every single day in more and more horrific ways.

[lilac05]

pixy0stix and others wanting more basic information, I’ve been following SmartHerNews on Instagram. She is VERY patient to wait and hear official information before sharing it. It means you don’t get the story first, but you’re also not reading 52 accounts and try I to figure out what’s right and what isn’t. She was a reporter at Sandy Hook, too, so she knows how inaccurate information can be in the first hours and days. I have really appreciated her calm demeanor and dedication to only sharing what is known. If you don’t have Instagram, all of her stuff is on smarthernews.com, too.

I believe she has posted the names and photos of all of the victims, but at least as of this afternoon, she wasn’t including all of the parent reports and other details that aren’t super clear at the moment.

[NewOrleans]

Massive TW







An 11-year-old survivor of the Robb Elementary School massacre in Uvalde, Texas, feared the gunman would come back for her so she smeared herself in her friend's blood and played dead


(the child has provided many details about the murderer’s entry into the room)

www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/robb-shooting-survivor-miah-cerrillo/index.html

[StrawberryBlondie]

May 26, 2022 18:12:23 GMT -5 Bad Dingo said:

I truly don't understand why police and police unions aren't for gun control.

I mean, unless it's for racist reasons...

I swear I read something a while back that said this is something that has a huge urban/rural divide. Of course, I can't find it now and it may have changed since that was a few years ago.

[erbear]

May 27, 2022 9:43:39 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Massive TW







An 11-year-old survivor of the Robb Elementary School massacre in Uvalde, Texas, feared the gunman would come back for her so she smeared herself in her friend's blood and played dead


(the child has provided many details about the murderer’s entry into the room)

www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/robb-shooting-survivor-miah-cerrillo/index.html

This is the worst thing I have ever read 

[5kcandlesinthewind]

May 27, 2022 9:51:29 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

May 26, 2022 18:12:23 GMT -5 Bad Dingo said:

I truly don't understand why police and police unions aren't for gun control.

I mean, unless it's for racist reasons...

I swear I read something a while back that said this is something that has a huge urban/rural divide. Of course, I can't find it now and it may have changed since that was a few years ago.

I bet it has something to do with them not needing their own toys if guns go away. We just went to my kid's school Fun Run, and one of the town officers was there in his  tactical vest. Ridiculous.  The cops have been at school for drop-off the last two days, but sitting in their cars.  Yesterday, they were parked alongside each other in the driveway chatting it up, blocking the exit lane so there was one lane to get in and out.  Really doing a lot to protect the kids there by creating a traffic hazard!

I have been dipping in here and there, but it keeps getting worse every time I read something. The story about the survivor this morning shattered me whole. What are we doing to these kids that they need to learn wartime maneuvers to survive a day in fucking school? It's utter madness.

[mbcdefg]

Has anyone thanked teachers en masse for their service and sacrifice, the same way they have a hard on for all these cops who let these poor babies be slaughtered?

[carmenere]

May 27, 2022 11:36:39 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Has anyone thanked teachers en masse for their service and sacrifice, the same way they have a hard on for all these cops who let these poor babies be slaughtered?

IDK, folks on the right seem too busy policing what they teach. 

ETA: Sorry, that was flippant but I'm angry. All the teachers I know on facebook are sharing the same post about how every single teacher has to think about this situation. I cannot imagine how heavily that must weigh on them, on top of everything else they do, and everything they deal with, and they don't get paid or thanked enough for any of it.

[pixy0stix]

It seems real obvious to me that these cops never took the school shooter training seriously, or even thought to train at all. Like their god complex extended to the thought that either a "good guy with a gun" would take the shooter down, or that their magical guns would take the shooter down easily. All their actions point to them not having the foggiest notion that they might actually be shot at and have to put their lives on the line in this situation.

[pixy0stix]

It reminds me of the SRO at Parkland who hid when shit hit the fan. Wanted the swagger of the gun, but didn't even think about the enormity of the responsibility.

[biscoffcookies]

This press conference today is infuriating. “They thought they had time” to wait because “they assumed all the kids were already dead” even though at least two children in the room were calling 911 begging for help. And even without those calls — you don’t know that! They could be injured/unconscious but alive and needing medical attention!

And the Border Patrol team arrived around noon - the team that eventually went in - but the cops wouldn’t let them in until almost 1.

I just am speechless.

[suburbanzookeeper]

May 27, 2022 11:56:24 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

It reminds me of the SRO at Parkland who hid when shit hit the fan. Wanted the swagger of the gun, but didn't even think about the enormity of the responsibility.

Except every time LEO asks for pay increases, defends their pensions, asks for bigger/better equipment, they wave the enormity of their responsibility around as their why (and this coming from a LEO family). It's all a façade. 

[Bad Dingo]

I just started watching a recording of the press conference. This is just insanity.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO7JtK1_CWA

[secretagent]

TW







"The authorities now say that local officers first entered the school at 11:35, two minutes after the gunman, and that there were 19 officers in the hallway by 12:03 p.m., but that they did not breach the door and kill the gunman until 12:50, even as they continued to hear him firing."


Blood is on their hands. WTF. Those CHILDREN calling 911 begging for help. I cannot.

[gretchenindisguise]

May 27, 2022 11:36:39 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Has anyone thanked teachers en masse for their service and sacrifice, the same way they have a hard on for all these cops who let these poor babies be slaughtered?

No.

And this is a reminder to thank your own children’s teachers. I sent a note yesterday, and by her reaction - I’m the only one who has.

[Bad Dingo]

May 27, 2022 12:37:23 GMT -5 secretagent said:

TW







"The authorities now say that local officers first entered the school at 11:35, two minutes after the gunman, and that there were 19 officers in the hallway by 12:03 p.m., but that they did not breach the door and kill the gunman until 12:50, even as they continued to hear him firing."


Blood is on their hands. WTF. Those CHILDREN calling 911 begging for help. I cannot.

Not only that, but kids were calling 911 from inside the classrooms and they still weren't going in (according to the guy holding the presser, the 911 dispatch didn't let the police chief know that there were kids alive inside??).  Fuck them all.

[notreal]

May 27, 2022 12:27:21 GMT -5 Bad Dingo said:

I just started watching a recording of the press conference. This is just insanity.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO7JtK1_CWA

Was that the one where he said they would "circle back to the question" and then walked away.  That one particularly incensed me because you know he purposely chose that terminology as a jab at Jen Psaki and the current administration.  What a time to be petty and political asshole.

[secretagent]

Bad Dingo, it makes ZERO sense.

[timorousbeastie]

OMFG. Now parents in my district, including the Moms 4 Liberty nut job running for school board, are trying to organize fucking armed parents waiting just outside the gun-free zones at all the schools so they can check every person entering the school.

We only have two weeks left of school. I can’t believe I’m now actually hoping DD gets COVID so I don’t have to send her to school, knowing the strong possibility of there being random, armed, fucking lunatics waiting outside.

[mskitkat]

May 27, 2022 14:10:06 GMT -5 timorousbeastie said:

OMFG. Now parents in my district, including the Moms 4 Liberty nut job running for school board, are trying to organize fucking armed parents waiting just outside the gun-free zones at all the schools so they can check every person entering the school.

We only have two weeks left of school. I can’t believe I’m now actually hoping DD gets COVID so I don’t have to send her to school, knowing the strong possibility of there being random, armed, fucking lunatics waiting outside.

If that actually happens, there is zero chance I would allow my child to go to school. I would lie and say they have covid. No, I am not subjecting my child to a random parent-led armed checkpoint.

[dulcemariamar]

This is so fucking disgusting. Those poor babies and their families and friends. The “good” guys with guns didn’t do shit. According to the timeline on CNN, several cops entered at 11:35, just 3 minutes after the shooter but they didn’t breach the door where the kids were until 12:50. I just can’t imagine the horror that the kids had to face for such a long period of time. Just imagining that shooter alone with the students and the teachers and the police doing nothing ... I have no words.. just tears... so those who argue about needing more good guys with guns can just shut the fuck up.

[Deleted]

This timeline is destroying me. The same child called five times between 12:03 and 12:36. A different one called at 12:19. What the fuck were they waiting for? The thought of a child desperately trying to call for help and no one coming is too much.

[Deleted]

May 27, 2022 14:10:06 GMT -5 timorousbeastie said:

OMFG. Now parents in my district, including the Moms 4 Liberty nut job running for school board, are trying to organize fucking armed parents waiting just outside the gun-free zones at all the schools so they can check every person entering the school.

We only have two weeks left of school. I can’t believe I’m now actually hoping DD gets COVID so I don’t have to send her to school, knowing the strong possibility of there being random, armed, fucking lunatics waiting outside.

Fuck this. I'd say your kid has covid and you're done for the year.