July Politics

[NewOrleans]

Jul 14, 2022 15:59:14 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

😂

John Fetterman hired Snooki from Jersey Shore to do a Cameo telling him how much Jersey misses him.

omg 💀 

[NewOrleans]

So the Secret Service erased their text messages. No big deal.

The US Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021, shortly after they were requested by oversight officials investigating the agency's response to the US Capitol riot, according to a letter given to the House select committee investigating the insurrection and obtained by CNN.

The letter, which was originally sent to the House and Senate Homeland Security Committees by the Department of Homeland Security Inspector General, says the messages were erased from the system as part of a device-replacement program after the watchdog asked the agency for records related to its electronic communications.

www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics/secret-service-text-messages-erased/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0_EiS9IG5pzbxqvRI-8wlK1sagkxBFmBcDyeMNEpNTvlS8RngSST4yvzU

[pixy0stix]

Can we just throw out Manchin? www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/07/14/manchin-climate-tax-bbb/

[msmerymac]

Jul 14, 2022 15:25:39 GMT -5 mrsd2006 said:

Jul 14, 2022 15:02:26 GMT -5 TR said:

Until I saw 73, I was reading that as Ivanka and I am now disappointed.

I saw TRUMP and DIED and was really disappointed it was not TFG. 

I would have felt a little bad if it was Ivanka as she has 3 small kids. 

If Orange Mussolini dies at any time in the next 2.5 years, or longer if he wins in 2024, the conspiracy theories will NEVER END. 

[Velar Fricative]

Jul 15, 2022 8:51:15 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Can we just throw out Manchin? www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/07/14/manchin-climate-tax-bbb/

Yeah for a long time I was like "Well, he's still a D and that's the best we can get from WV" and now I would just rather he be gone even if an R replaces him (as is likely). 

[ellipses84]

Jul 15, 2022 9:02:19 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Jul 14, 2022 15:25:39 GMT -5 mrsd2006 said:

I saw TRUMP and DIED and was really disappointed it was not TFG. 

I would have felt a little bad if it was Ivanka as she has 3 small kids. 

If Orange Mussolini dies at any time in the next 2.5 years, or longer if he wins in 2024, the conspiracy theories will NEVER END. 

I’m willing to deal with the fallout.

[NewOrleans]

Wrong thread 

[Pom]

Jul 16, 2022 13:44:33 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

I had to get a Covid test to go on my vacation Monday. I tested positive. I am devastated.
I haven’t had so much as a sniffle. Not a headache. Not a sneeze.

I am so sorry. 

[kitty]

Not sure if op-eds are okay but this spoke to me:
Opinion: As stars and politicians age, we’re entering a new era of stagnation

“It’s fair to ask whether people born before the advent of cable TV and nuclear power — in addition to delicious desserts — are in the best position to represent a nation beset by issues that would have been unimaginable when they began their careers. That’s especially true when those leaders rely on assumptions about how politics work that no longer apply.

Stars and pols alike are getting older for a similar reason: In a world where it costs a ton of money to simply generate awareness for a product, nothing is as valuable as a well-known name. In politics, this manifests in the remarkably powerful incumbency effect. In 2016, 98 percent of House members won reelection. Incumbency was worth an extra 3.2 percent at the polls.“

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/14/tom-cruise-nancy-pelosi-gerontocracy-rules/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_opinions&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3jgp58o2xm5P1KyqysvUOQff4p5iLVWT8SqjxxXGLiymwm_IFQRUN2pxo

[Jalapeñomel]

There seems to be a lot of buzz that Biden is not going to run for re-election, and he will announce sometime around midterms. I’m sure this is all speculation, but if he does, what do you think that means for democrats?

[sonrisa]

Jul 17, 2022 9:43:59 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

There seems to be a lot of buzz that Biden is not going to run for re-election, and he will announce sometime around midterms. I’m sure this is all speculation, but if he does, what do you think that means for democrats?

 big mess

[NewOrleans]

Jul 17, 2022 9:43:59 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

There seems to be a lot of buzz that Biden is not going to run for re-election, and he will announce sometime around midterms. I’m sure this is all speculation, but if he does, what do you think that means for democrats?

💥☄️

[penguingrrl]

Jul 17, 2022 9:43:59 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

There seems to be a lot of buzz that Biden is not going to run for re-election, and he will announce sometime around midterms. I’m sure this is all speculation, but if he does, what do you think that means for democrats?

I thought he had said all along he would only run for one term. I wouldn’t be upset, honestly.

[abs]

Jul 17, 2022 10:55:14 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Jul 17, 2022 9:43:59 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

There seems to be a lot of buzz that Biden is not going to run for re-election, and he will announce sometime around midterms. I’m sure this is all speculation, but if he does, what do you think that means for democrats?

 big mess

It’s all a big mess anyways.

Frankly I think Biden not running is the best.

[prettyinpearls]

Jul 17, 2022 14:40:22 GMT -5 penguingrrl said:

Jul 17, 2022 9:43:59 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

There seems to be a lot of buzz that Biden is not going to run for re-election, and he will announce sometime around midterms. I’m sure this is all speculation, but if he does, what do you think that means for democrats?

I thought he had said all along he would only run for one term. I wouldn’t be upset, honestly.

 That's what I thought as well, but if he was truly going to stick to that you'd think there'd be more chatter in the Dem circles as to possible 2024 candidates. 

I wouldn't be upset if he didn't run again. The Dems need something/someone to get excited about...unless, of course, it just ends in divide and we're back in 2016. 

[erbear]

Can’t decide. I’m not so into Biden these days and I’d love to see a more progressive candidate. And I saw a poll that Biden leads Trump by 3% right now. I’d like to take my chances but I’m worried about regretting that.

[Jalapeñomel]

Jul 17, 2022 17:30:25 GMT -5 prettyinpearls said:

Jul 17, 2022 14:40:22 GMT -5 penguingrrl said:

I thought he had said all along he would only run for one term. I wouldn’t be upset, honestly.

 That's what I thought as well, but if he was truly going to stick to that you'd think there'd be more chatter in the Dem circles as to possible 2024 candidates. 

I wouldn't be upset if he didn't run again. The Dems need something/someone to get excited about...unless, of course, it just ends in divide and we're back in 2016. 

I think there is ‘some’ chatter: Harris, Newsom, Buttigieg

[ellipses84]

Jul 17, 2022 19:04:26 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Jul 17, 2022 17:30:25 GMT -5 prettyinpearls said:

 That's what I thought as well, but if he was truly going to stick to that you'd think there'd be more chatter in the Dem circles as to possible 2024 candidates. 

I wouldn't be upset if he didn't run again. The Dems need something/someone to get excited about...unless, of course, it just ends in divide and we're back in 2016. 

I think there is ‘some’ chatter: Harris, Newsom, Buttigieg

I heard Newsom was running ads against DeathSantis in FL, and that he wouldn’t do that unless he was gearing up for a presidential campaign.

[sonrisa]

Jul 17, 2022 14:40:22 GMT -5 penguingrrl said:

Jul 17, 2022 9:43:59 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

There seems to be a lot of buzz that Biden is not going to run for re-election, and he will announce sometime around midterms. I’m sure this is all speculation, but if he does, what do you think that means for democrats?

I thought he had said all along he would only run for one term. I wouldn’t be upset, honestly.

Which is why he should have never been the nominee.

Kamala is in a weaker position for having been VP unless Biden officially and clearly passes the torch and the party rallies around her. Newsom and Kamala against each other leaves CA eating it's own. Buttigeg isn't going to get it. Warren isn't a contender this time. The Bernie idiots will get all riled up again.  I think we come out of that handing DeSantis (or TFG) the presidency. 

[underwaterrhymes]

I’m focused on the midterms. If we do not take additional seats in the Senate, keep the House and subsequently expand the Supreme Court and end the filibuster, it won’t matter who runs. I fully expect the Supreme Court to roll back voting rights with Moore vs Harper. Without a strong showing in the midterms, our democracy will be over and we hand the presidency to Trump or DeSantis regardless of who the public votes for.

[penguingrrl]

Jul 18, 2022 1:43:05 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Jul 17, 2022 14:40:22 GMT -5 penguingrrl said:

I thought he had said all along he would only run for one term. I wouldn’t be upset, honestly.

Which is why he should have never been the nominee.

Kamala is in a weaker position for having been VP unless Biden officially and clearly passes the torch and the party rallies around her. Newsom and Kamala against each other leaves CA eating it's own. Buttigeg isn't going to get it. Warren isn't a contender this time. The Bernie idiots will get all riled up again.  I think we come out of that handing DeSantis (or TFG) the presidency. 

Agreed. And when my turn came for the primary it was already over (NJ, so June primary) I wrote Warren in because I wasn’t supporting Biden as the nominee. I of course wrote postcards and knocked doors for him and voted for him in the general, but the party made a huge mistake.

I hope he very publicly passes the torch to Harris because we can’t risk being in chaos for this election.

[DotAndBuzz]

Jul 17, 2022 19:04:26 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Jul 17, 2022 17:30:25 GMT -5 prettyinpearls said:

 That's what I thought as well, but if he was truly going to stick to that you'd think there'd be more chatter in the Dem circles as to possible 2024 candidates. 

I wouldn't be upset if he didn't run again. The Dems need something/someone to get excited about...unless, of course, it just ends in divide and we're back in 2016. 

I think there is ‘some’ chatter: Harris, Newsom, Buttigieg

Ive also heard chatter about Gretchen Whitmer. 

I don't know if she could make a real go of it in 2024 (especially up against Newsom or Harris), but I would be 100% behind a Harris/Whitmer ticket. 

[abs]

Jul 18, 2022 15:06:32 GMT -5 DotAndBuzz said:

Jul 17, 2022 19:04:26 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

I think there is ‘some’ chatter: Harris, Newsom, Buttigieg

Ive also heard chatter about Gretchen Whitmer. 

I don't know if she could make a real go of it in 2024 (especially up against Newsom or Harris), but I would be 100% behind a Harris/Whitmer ticket. 

No old men 2024. I could go for that.

[mrsukyankee]

Another of the Tory candidates dropped out due to lack of MP votes, Tugendhat. The final four are vying for his votes. They are: Rishi Sunak with 115 votes, Penny Mordaunt with 82 votes, Liz Truss with 71 votes and Kemi Bedenoch with 58 votes (I hope she sinks next). There are 31 votes up for grabs at the next hustings (which is what they call the MP votes). Eventually, it'll get to the last two and there will then be a vote by the Tory members (you have to pay to be a member so it's a small number - one of the least democratic things we have in this country) for who will stand for PM until the next election.

[mrsd2006]

TFG having another hissy fit.

thehill.com/homenews/media/3565067-trump-responds-to-pulitzer-rejection-of-demand-to-revoke-reporting-awards/

Former President Trump on Monday cast the Pulitzer Prize board’s rejection of his demand to revoke awards given to The New York Times and The Washington Post as “running cover” for “the biggest reporting failure in modern history.”

The board earlier Monday said it would not fulfill multiple requests by Trump to rescind awards to the staff of the two newspapers in 2018 for reporting on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election because it saw no reason to do so.

[Bernadine]

I thought Biden has been saying he WOULD run for re-election, despite saying he wouldn’t.

[pixy0stix]

Jul 19, 2022 10:38:48 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

I thought Biden has been saying he WOULD run for re-election, despite saying he wouldn’t.

Correct. He never said he'd be one term. That's just something the collective consciousness put out there. There's no truth to it.

[abs]

Jul 19, 2022 11:30:02 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Jul 19, 2022 10:38:48 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

I thought Biden has been saying he WOULD run for re-election, despite saying he wouldn’t.

Correct. He never said he'd be one term. That's just something the collective consciousness put out there. There's no truth to it.

Yeah he will run again.  Still we can dream about how much better it could be!

[was5]

Jul 19, 2022 10:38:48 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

I thought Biden has been saying he WOULD run for re-election, despite saying he wouldn’t.

Based on a couple articles from 2019, Biden "indicated" he wouldn't run for re-election, but didn't make any promises.


thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474027-biden-indicates-he-will-only-serve-one-term-as-president-report/


“He’s going into this thinking, ‘I want to find a running mate I can turn things over to after four years, but if that’s not possible or doesn’t happen then I’ll run for reelection.’ But he’s not going to publicly make a one-term pledge,” another adviser reportedly said.

I think this was smart, because if things were really going well then he could say it makes sense to stay. But now, he can say, I left the door open to just running for one term. The article also suggests that Biden wanted to be able to pass the torch to his VP, but the problem is that being the VP puts Harris in line for lots of criticism but not much opportunity to effectuate change. Plus, all the conspiracy theorists basically said that Harris would be leading the White House and Biden was a figure head. That was not true, but it puts an extra burden on her.

[sequins]

Honest question? Does Kamala have any momentum at all? I feel like she has been largely invisible? The only times I see Kamala's face is when I come across a "we did it, Joe" meme 🥲