July Politics

[cous0226]

Are we hopeful that bannon will go to jail for his trial for contempt of congress?

[Jalapeñomel]

Jul 19, 2022 15:04:22 GMT -5 sequins said:

Honest question? Does Kamala have any momentum at all? I feel like she has been largely invisible? The only times I see Kamala's face is when I come across a "we did it, Joe" meme 🥲

SM seems to think she’s universally disliked and would be a terrible choice to run.

[sequins]

Jul 19, 2022 19:30:46 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Jul 19, 2022 15:04:22 GMT -5 sequins said:

Honest question? Does Kamala have any momentum at all? I feel like she has been largely invisible? The only times I see Kamala's face is when I come across a "we did it, Joe" meme 🥲

SM seems to think she’s universally disliked and would be a terrible choice to run.

Yeah that's my general social media impression as well. Even if moderately liked, she definitely hasn't been the the loud and proud progressive that we've been needing. 

Why couldn't we have picked Warren? 🥲

[neverfstop]

Jul 19, 2022 19:39:44 GMT -5 sequins said:

Jul 19, 2022 19:30:46 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

SM seems to think she’s universally disliked and would be a terrible choice to run.

Yeah that's my general social media impression as well. Even if moderately liked, she definitely hasn't been the the loud and proud progressive that we've been needing. 

Why couldn't we have picked Warren FOR PRESIDENT? 🥲

FTFY

[meganew]

Jul 19, 2022 19:39:44 GMT -5 sequins said:

Jul 19, 2022 19:30:46 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

SM seems to think she’s universally disliked and would be a terrible choice to run.

Yeah that's my general social media impression as well. Even if moderately liked, she definitely hasn't been the the loud and proud progressive that we've been needing. 

Why couldn't we have picked Warren? 🥲

I really think Warren was our chance and we pissed it away. And I'm gonna blame Bernie bros again. 

[Bad Dingo]

Kamala was my #1 choice for President. IIRC a lot of the hate was bs that she was "pro-police".

[sequins]

Jul 19, 2022 21:23:41 GMT -5 Bad Dingo said:

Kamala was my #1 choice for President. IIRC a lot of the hate was bs that she was "pro-police".

Why was Kamala your #1 and not Warren, if I may ask?

[neverfstop]

Jul 19, 2022 21:56:07 GMT -5 sequins said:

Jul 19, 2022 21:23:41 GMT -5 Bad Dingo said:

Kamala was my #1 choice for President. IIRC a lot of the hate was bs that she was "pro-police".

Why was Kamala your #1 and not Warren, if I may ask?

Initially for me, I liked Kamala more because of her age & also b/c Warren was so polarizing...I thought she'd be more electable.  The GOP generally painted EW as such a boogeyman and she was such a target for all their rage. I adore EW though....she's been pretty quiet lately. 

[msmerymac]

Jul 19, 2022 1:49:06 GMT -5 mrsukyankee said:

Another of the Tory candidates dropped out due to lack of MP votes, Tugendhat. The final four are vying for his votes. They are: Rishi Sunak with 115 votes, Penny Mordaunt with 82 votes, Liz Truss with 71 votes and Kemi Bedenoch with 58 votes (I hope she sinks next). There are 31 votes up for grabs at the next hustings (which is what they call the MP votes). Eventually, it'll get to the last two and there will then be a vote by the Tory members (you have to pay to be a member so it's a small number - one of the least democratic things we have in this country) for who will stand for PM until the next election.

Does everyone who is a member of a political party have to pay? And you mean that it will be like a primary election in a way for Tory party members everywhere?

[sequins]

Jul 20, 2022 8:52:36 GMT -5 neverfstop said:

Jul 19, 2022 21:56:07 GMT -5 sequins said:

Why was Kamala your #1 and not Warren, if I may ask?

Initially for me, I liked Kamala more because of her age & also b/c Warren was so polarizing...I thought she'd be more electable.  The GOP generally painted EW as such a boogeyman and she was such a target for all their rage. I adore EW though....she's been pretty quiet lately. 

She's been out there. Protesting and marching for roe. And talking about corporation taxes. And climate change. 

[carmenere]

Jul 19, 2022 19:30:46 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Jul 19, 2022 15:04:22 GMT -5 sequins said:

Honest question? Does Kamala have any momentum at all? I feel like she has been largely invisible? The only times I see Kamala's face is when I come across a "we did it, Joe" meme 🥲

SM seems to think she’s universally disliked and would be a terrible choice to run.

I like Kamala and I don't perceive her as being universally disliked. But I do worry that she's tainted by misdirected disappointment that would make it really hard to rally around her and get out the vote.

[5kcandlesinthewind]

There was a few of the "everyone in the WH hates working with Kamala" stories a few months back, but I mostly chalked them up to 99% "she's not a white man!" bullshit. I cannot imagine working for Dick Cheney, for example, was a party.

I do wonder what's going on in her head, and if she regrets taking the VP spot. I really wish we had her as AG instead. Even if Biden sticks to one-term, he is so wildly unpopular right that it would 100% taint her by association if she were to run.

[goldengirlz]

There’s an ML thread asking about the last time you’ve said f- you.

Let the record show I said it at 2pm PT to Ted Cruz after reading this article about how the GOP will try to filibuster the House bill that passed today protecting same-sex and interracial marriage (and country of origin):

www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/07/20/gop-freezes-up-on-same-sex-marriage-00046924

[neeps]

Jul 20, 2022 16:02:02 GMT -5 goldengirlz said:

There’s an ML thread asking about the last time you’ve said f- you.

Let the record show I said it at 2pm PT to Ted Cruz after reading this article about how the GOP will try to filibuster the House bill that passed today protecting same-sex and interracial marriage (and country of origin):

www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/07/20/gop-freezes-up-on-same-sex-marriage-00046924

Lurker question: Does anyone know why the House did this? I mean it seems like a bad idea to pass this right before a huge break when it may not get on the Senate’s docket. Like tipping your hand and giving the R’s plenty of time to craft whatever BS message they’re going to go with in order to vote no when it finally comes to the Senate floor. Why give them that opportunity? But I also know next to nothing about how long there typically is between House passage and Senate vote so maybe the R’s would have had time to scheme their message of hate either way.

[carmenere]

Jul 20, 2022 22:09:34 GMT -5 neeps said:

Jul 20, 2022 16:02:02 GMT -5 goldengirlz said:

There’s an ML thread asking about the last time you’ve said f- you.

Let the record show I said it at 2pm PT to Ted Cruz after reading this article about how the GOP will try to filibuster the House bill that passed today protecting same-sex and interracial marriage (and country of origin):

www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/07/20/gop-freezes-up-on-same-sex-marriage-00046924

Lurker question: Does anyone know why the House did this? I mean it seems like a bad idea to pass this right before a huge break when it may not get on the Senate’s docket. Like tipping your hand and giving the R’s plenty of time to craft whatever BS message they’re going to go with in order to vote no when it finally comes to the Senate floor. Why give them that opportunity? But I also know next to nothing about how long there typically is between House passage and Senate vote so maybe the R’s would have had time to scheme their message of hate either way.

I think House Dems felt urgency to get this done. There just isn't that much time left in the term. I also think the GOP didn't need any extra time to craft a message. The excuse some Rs are giving, that the legislation isn't necessary because SCOTUS won't overturn marriage precedents, is bullshit. R's love to complain about how the court shouldn't be "legislating from the bench" but now they don't want to actually legislate?

[fernweh]

Not sure if this goes in the politics thread or the covid thread but Joe Biden has tested positive for covid. He is experiencing very mild symptoms and has started Paxlovid.

[kadams767]

Jul 21, 2022 9:02:23 GMT -5 carmenere said:

Jul 20, 2022 22:09:34 GMT -5 neeps said:

Lurker question: Does anyone know why the House did this? I mean it seems like a bad idea to pass this right before a huge break when it may not get on the Senate’s docket. Like tipping your hand and giving the R’s plenty of time to craft whatever BS message they’re going to go with in order to vote no when it finally comes to the Senate floor. Why give them that opportunity? But I also know next to nothing about how long there typically is between House passage and Senate vote so maybe the R’s would have had time to scheme their message of hate either way.

I think House Dems felt urgency to get this done. There just isn't that much time left in the term. I also think the GOP didn't need any extra time to craft a message. The excuse some Rs are giving, that the legislation isn't necessary because SCOTUS won't overturn marriage precedents, is bullshit. R's love to complain about how the court shouldn't be "legislating from the bench" but now they don't want to actually legislate?

Perhaps I am just completely delusional, but I think this actually might pass and Dems know that.  Getting it on the floor when they return from break is a good set-up for them in time for mid-terms, IMO.  If it passes, they can use it as a big win and actually have some momentum.  If not, they have more of the GOP on record with no votes against a social issue that is widely popular and evidenced by a sea change over the past however many years since SCOTUS legalized it nationwide.  I think that would be a good mobilizer as well - their just isn't the kind of opposition to this as there was in the past, it's not an issue that will turn out GOP voters either way, IMO.  But maybe I am completely off-base.

[carmenere]

Jul 21, 2022 9:57:02 GMT -5 kadams767 said:

Jul 21, 2022 9:02:23 GMT -5 carmenere said:

I think House Dems felt urgency to get this done. There just isn't that much time left in the term. I also think the GOP didn't need any extra time to craft a message. The excuse some Rs are giving, that the legislation isn't necessary because SCOTUS won't overturn marriage precedents, is bullshit. R's love to complain about how the court shouldn't be "legislating from the bench" but now they don't want to actually legislate?

Perhaps I am just completely delusional, but I think this actually might pass and Dems know that.  Getting it on the floor when they return from break is a good set-up for them in time for mid-terms, IMO.  If it passes, they can use it as a big win and actually have some momentum.  If not, they have more of the GOP on record with no votes against a social issue that is widely popular and evidenced by a sea change over the past however many years since SCOTUS legalized it nationwide.  I think that would be a good mobilizer as well - their just isn't the kind of opposition to this as there was in the past, it's not an issue that will turn out GOP voters either way, IMO.  But maybe I am completely off-base.

I'm hopeful that it will pass. From what I've read, the House bill was short and straightfoward, which doesn't leave room for R's to fight over amendments or object to specific provisions like they would with a more expansive bill. If they vote against it, it's because they are against marriage equality and they'll be on record for it.

[pixy0stix]

On top of everything, the Senate is moving forward with their own bill to legalize marijuana. From what I'm reading it largely ignores the House's two bills that they've passed. www.politico.com/news/2022/07/21/schumer-legal-weed-bill-00047058

[mrsukyankee]

We are now down to the two candidates the Tory members will vote on. The campaigning starts, in earnest, now. It's going to be ugly. And I hope it is so that Labour can use it in ads.

It will also be horrible for the country. Both are going to bring worse laws for everyone who isn't in the top 1%.

Rushi Sunak or Liz Truss. Ugh. Rich guy who wants to be more rich and is naive or an idiot who will bend in whatever manner that will get more notice or power.

[suburbanzookeeper]

Steve Bannon was found guilty per CNN.

It’s a minimum of 30 days.

[Pom]

Jul 22, 2022 13:51:27 GMT -5 suburbanzookeeper said:

Steve Bannon was found guilty per CNN.

It’s a minimum of 30 days.

May that walking waterlogged corpse go to jail, FOREVER & EVER AMEN.

[neeps]

Jul 17, 2022 19:17:08 GMT -5 ellipses84 said:

I heard Newsom was running ads against DeathSantis in FL, and that he wouldn’t do that unless he was gearing up for a presidential campaign.

Newsom had a full page ad in today’s Houston Chronicle against Abbott that was beautifully placed opposite the article on the Jan. 6 hearings. Presidential run seems likely.

[bronxgirl]

How many orange jumpsuits can Bannon wear at once during his sentence to accomplish the layered look he needs?

[Pom]

Jul 22, 2022 15:01:03 GMT -5 neeps said:

Jul 17, 2022 19:17:08 GMT -5 ellipses84 said:

I heard Newsom was running ads against DeathSantis in FL, and that he wouldn’t do that unless he was gearing up for a presidential campaign.

Newsom had a full page ad in today’s Houston Chronicle against Abbott that was beautifully placed opposite the article on the Jan. 6 hearings. Presidential run seems likely.

Well, that interesting.  I am seeing Beto with good turnouts at small town venues in Texas.  I hope Abbott has to slither off and croak in shame. 

[abs]

Jul 22, 2022 16:34:44 GMT -5 Pom said:

Jul 22, 2022 15:01:03 GMT -5 neeps said:

Newsom had a full page ad in today’s Houston Chronicle against Abbott that was beautifully placed opposite the article on the Jan. 6 hearings. Presidential run seems likely.

Well, that interesting.  I am seeing Beto with good turnouts at small town venues in Texas.  I hope Abbott has to slither off and croak in shame. 

If that somehow happens y'all will be able to be able to screams of excitement all over the US.

[mrsd2006]

THIS IS TERRIFYING:
www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term

Former President Trump’s top allies are preparing to radically reshape the federal government if he is re-elected, purging potentially thousands of civil servants and filling career posts with loyalists to him and his "America First” ideology, people involved in the discussions tell Axios.

The impact could go well beyond typical conservative targets such as the Environmental Protection Agency and the Internal Revenue Service. Trump allies are working on plans that would potentially strip layers at the Justice Department — including the FBI, and reaching into national security, intelligence, the State Department and the Pentagon, sources close to the former president say.

During his presidency, Trump often complained about what he called “the deep state.”

The heart of the plan is derived from an executive order known as “Schedule F,” developed and refined in secret over most of the second half of Trump’s term and launched 13 days before the 2020 election.


FOLLOW UP ARTICLE:
www.axios.com/2022/07/23/donald-trump-news-schedule-f-executive-order

[chickadee77]

Jul 25, 2022 8:54:52 GMT -5 mrsd2006 said:

THIS IS TERRIFYING:
www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term

Former President Trump’s top allies are preparing to radically reshape the federal government if he is re-elected, purging potentially thousands of civil servants and filling career posts with loyalists to him and his "America First” ideology, people involved in the discussions tell Axios.

The impact could go well beyond typical conservative targets such as the Environmental Protection Agency and the Internal Revenue Service. Trump allies are working on plans that would potentially strip layers at the Justice Department — including the FBI, and reaching into national security, intelligence, the State Department and the Pentagon, sources close to the former president say.

During his presidency, Trump often complained about what he called “the deep state.”

The heart of the plan is derived from an executive order known as “Schedule F,” developed and refined in secret over most of the second half of Trump’s term and launched 13 days before the 2020 election.


FOLLOW UP ARTICLE:
www.axios.com/2022/07/23/donald-trump-news-schedule-f-executive-order

Make no mistake, they'll easily pivot no matter who they run. (Off to read the actual article now).

[konapoppy]

I hate these people:
www.cnn.com/2022/07/25/politics/glenn-thompson-attends-gay-sons-wedding-after-opposing-protections/index.html

[konapoppy]

Also, did anyone else notice all of Biden’s pro-police tweets today 😭