November Politics - Election Week

[TR]

Nov 7, 2022 19:54:24 GMT -5 suburbanzookeeper said:

Nov 7, 2022 16:30:45 GMT -5 shortstax said:

Current lead story on Cincinnati Enquirer website right now is that insiders allege/predict that Trump may announce his 2024 presidency bid tonight at a Vance campaign rally.

*Insert puke face here*

If he announces the GOP will no longer cover his legal bills, apparently: news.yahoo.com/rnc-no-longer-cover-trumps-122648646.html

I don’t think this would deter him. He doesn’t care about not paying bills.

[cous0226]

I have a dumb question. How come Republicans vote day of and Dems do mail in? Why is this and it seems it has always been like this. Why though?

[shauni27]

Nov 8, 2022 6:57:02 GMT -5 cous0226 said:

I have a dumb question. How come Republicans vote day of and Dems do mail in? Why is this and it seems it has always been like this. Why though?

anecdote: here in NH in a pretty liberal district/ward everyone votes day of. I went this am right when they opened at 7 and we waited 30 minutes to vote! From my experience voting in rural New England for most of my life, everyone votes day of and it is very social. A chance to see your community members and friends, gather, have a coffee, etc. Very "West Wing Dixville Notch" feel.

[shortstax]

Nov 7, 2022 19:54:24 GMT -5 suburbanzookeeper said:

Nov 7, 2022 16:30:45 GMT -5 shortstax said:

Current lead story on Cincinnati Enquirer website right now is that insiders allege/predict that Trump may announce his 2024 presidency bid tonight at a Vance campaign rally.

*Insert puke face here*

If he announces the GOP will no longer cover his legal bills, apparently: news.yahoo.com/rnc-no-longer-cover-trumps-122648646.html

Well this is fascinating! Im glad he didn’t announce. I prefer to be anxious and dread one thing at a time, and Election Day fits that bill.

[msmerymac]

Nov 8, 2022 6:57:02 GMT -5 cous0226 said:

I have a dumb question. How come Republicans vote day of and Dems do mail in? Why is this and it seems it has always been like this. Why though?

It hasn't always been like this, just since 2020. Memory is short. It's mainly due to Trump and his yammering about how mail in is ripe for cheating. (Spoiler alert: it's not)

I live in PA and in 2019 there was a bi-partisan bill passed to expand mail-in voting - from needing to have a reason to not needing a reason to request a mail in ballot. Before the pandemic. You can also request to have mail-in ballots for the remaining elections in any given year - so I requested a ballot for the primary and then told them to send me one for the general election as well. The flip side is that Republicans requested that mail-in ballots not be counted until 8 PM on election day, which is what delayed the PA results in 2020 and what made people flip their s&!t when Trump was originally leading and then the mail in ballots gave it to Biden. 

[msmerymac]

Nov 7, 2022 12:19:55 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Republicans sue to disqualify thousands of mail ballots in swing states - www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2022/11/07/gop-sues-reject-mail-ballots/

This is an absolute disaster in PA. Some counties have tried to contact people to get them to cure their ballots. Many people cannot do so because they are elderly or disabled or out of town. Philadelphia could only send out an automated call because they have to put resources towards election day, but a lot of people have taken the data and tried to reach out to people on the list. Some counties aren't letting voters know at all and not giving them a chance to cure ballots if they wanted to. 

In Philly it was 3600 ballots that were disqualified, enough to count in close races. Especially considering there are probably several thousand more throughout the state. Thankfully, anticipating more legal challenges, the PA Supreme Court mandated that the ballots be set aside, but it's a total mess, especially if they are allowed to count in the future but now people who have cured their ballots will need to be separated from those who did not. 

[dancingirl21]

I sent our mail-in ballots last Thursday via USPS and I haven’t received confirmation that our county has them yet. Bah. I really wanted them there by today to be counted. Hopefully they still get there today.

[ellipses84]

Nov 8, 2022 6:57:02 GMT -5 cous0226 said:

I have a dumb question. How come Republicans vote day of and Dems do mail in? Why is this and it seems it has always been like this. Why though?

In addition to what MsMeryMac said, voting varies so much from state to state. On the West Coast it is so easy to vote and we are often shocked when we move to other states where it’s much more challenging. In my city / state you can register to vote at the DMV with your other paperwork (like if you move to the state and change your license or live there and renew), everyone registered to vote is mailed a ballot and you can mail it back (which you do want to do early) or drop it off at a ballot box. There are ballot boxes at every library and other places, or you can drop it off at the polls on Election Day. I think some people still like to vote / drop off on Election Day.

When I moved to TX it was so much more challenging. I either had to early vote at the one location in my city (not convenient to a lot of people) or I had to vote at my neighborhood polling location, which wasn’t convenient to work. Because people would go before/ after work, there were often long lines. You had to have a good reason to get an absentee ballot which had to be done in advance. I always worried my work would send me on a last minute business trip and I’d miss Election Day, so I early voted, but I think most people voted on Election Day.

I heard someone say this year you should early vote as soon as you can because then the campaign resources can be used for other people who haven’t voted. I used to worry breaking news could change my mind on something on the ballot, but now there’s such a divide I’m voting the D recommendations on all issues.

[penelope]

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I have no real news to share but I wanted to say that both of my sons, ages 22 and 19, reached out to me to find out what time I was going to vote so they could come with me. My oldest voted by mail 2 years ago and this is my 19 year old's first time and they didn't want to go in person for the first time alone. They both recognized how important this election is. When I was that age I didn't care and didn't bother. While walking in my 19 year old said that everyone in his friends group had already voted or had plans to go today. I hope and pray this is a sign that the younger generation gets it and that they are coming out in droves to vote blue!

[Pom]

godspeed Democrats, godspeed.

[seeyalater52]

I feel pretty stressed out today. Not ready for the personal and professional hell that comes with a bad result. I’m so tired.

Weirdly our biggest election night item this year is Medicaid expansion on the ballot in South Dakota. We poured so much into it and our polling looks good and I’m optimistic but still nervous until it’s over. Watching from the east coast is annoying with the time difference for poll closures. Second biggest election night anxiety on the work front is keeping NC House and Senate from R supermajorities. We may have a chance before end of year as long as the election doesn’t derail us.

No exciting races in state here but nervously watching a number of other states.

[pixy0stix]

It amazes me that every year the Republicans think it's a good idea to litter town illegally with their signs. The party of law and order until it doesn't suit them.

[mysteriouswife]

Just another day in the gerrymandering south.

www.newschannel5.com/news/an-effort-to-fix-davidson-countys-wrong-election-ballots-results-in-twice-the-number-of-wrong-ballots

[momof2ms]

Nov 8, 2022 10:16:42 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

It amazes me that every year the Republicans think it's a good idea to litter town illegally with their signs. The party of law and order until it doesn't suit them.

Just came to ask about this. What’s the rule on signs at polling sites? There’s a bunch of signs at the entrance of multiple polling sites today.

[pixy0stix]

Nov 8, 2022 10:48:24 GMT -5 momof2ms said:

Nov 8, 2022 10:16:42 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

It amazes me that every year the Republicans think it's a good idea to litter town illegally with their signs. The party of law and order until it doesn't suit them.

Just came to ask about this. What’s the rule on signs at polling sites? There’s a bunch of signs at the entrance of multiple polling sites today.

It really depends on local/state laws. Generally it's a 100ft to 200ft rule.

[cous0226]

Nov 8, 2022 8:48:17 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Nov 8, 2022 6:57:02 GMT -5 cous0226 said:

I have a dumb question. How come Republicans vote day of and Dems do mail in? Why is this and it seems it has always been like this. Why though?

It hasn't always been like this, just since 2020. Memory is short. It's mainly due to Trump and his yammering about how mail in is ripe for cheating. (Spoiler alert: it's not)

I live in PA and in 2019 there was a bi-partisan bill passed to expand mail-in voting - from needing to have a reason to not needing a reason to request a mail in ballot. Before the pandemic. You can also request to have mail-in ballots for the remaining elections in any given year - so I requested a ballot for the primary and then told them to send me one for the general election as well. The flip side is that Republicans requested that mail-in ballots not be counted until 8 PM on election day, which is what delayed the PA results in 2020 and what made people flip their s&!t when Trump was originally leading and then the mail in ballots gave it to Biden. 

Ok thanks I thought it was more historical than recent. I’ve always heard Republicans vote day of. So the media today is already saying that the Republicans will be leading early until the mail in dem votes get counted so it seems it’s just assumed it’s always dems doing mail in so it’s why I wondered.

[sju]

Nov 8, 2022 10:16:42 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

It amazes me that every year the Republicans think it's a good idea to litter town illegally with their signs. The party of law and order until it doesn't suit them.

It’s ridiculous. The R state rep candidate has mailed more garbage than all other election candidates combined..,even for governor and Senate. She has littered the entire town with signs. They even showed up to our door last weekend even though there are very big no soliciting signs at the community gates.

[noodleoo]

Nov 8, 2022 8:31:28 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

Nov 8, 2022 6:57:02 GMT -5 cous0226 said:

I have a dumb question. How come Republicans vote day of and Dems do mail in? Why is this and it seems it has always been like this. Why though?

anecdote: here in NH in a pretty liberal district/ward everyone votes day of. I went this am right when they opened at 7 and we waited 30 minutes to vote! From my experience voting in rural New England for most of my life, everyone votes day of and it is very social. A chance to see your community members and friends, gather, have a coffee, etc. Very "West Wing Dixville Notch" feel.

I always used to vote in person on election day until Covid. Then I figured out how to sign up for a ballot to be mailed to me and I set it up like that going forward. It is *so* much nicer to vote from home. I'm in MA and we're pretty reliably blue, so the races don't matter too much but we have several ballot questions this year. I was able to read them, research them on my phone, talk to my H and decide how we wanted to vote over lunch. I kind of miss voting in person (i want my "I voted" sticker LOL) but I'll probably vote by mail from now on.

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I used to like taking my kids to vote in person and explaining to them what it means.  Maybe I'll do that in 2024 (although I'd still early vote just to be safe).  

[Scout'sHonor]

Nov 8, 2022 10:16:42 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

It amazes me that every year the Republicans think it's a good idea to litter town illegally with their signs. The party of law and order until it doesn't suit them.

Yes, on every possible open space where I'm sure they're not supposed to be. I always cheer when I see some Dem ones, in front a house where they belong.

[dirtyred]

Election judge here--my county is dark red. High turnout and a lot of women are voting. voting. I hope this bodes well for the Dems, but you never know.

[lust2hart]

penelope, noodleoo, can you please add @ tags?

I’m working the polls and it has been busier than usual. I’m definitely eager to see how things turn out.

[penelope]

Nov 8, 2022 12:26:42 GMT -5 lust2hart said:

penelope , noodleoo , can you please add @ tags?

I’m working the polls and it has been busier than usual. I’m definitely eager to see how things turn out.

So sorry!!!  I don't typically post in CE&P, I just read and learn, so I totally forgot.  I really do apologize!

[DotAndBuzz]

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Campaign sign story: Prop 3 in Michigan is our "abortion rights" issue. Has huge support, but there have been some anti signs popping up around my super liberal pocket of Michigan. So imagine my surprise when, on the cesspool of NextDoor a post pops up saying "to whoever keeps spray painting the anti prop 3 signs at XYZ location, can you let me know where the sign up genius is for this? I want to make sure I can help with the cause. Also, my garage is unlocked if you need spray paint."

Is it illegal to deface those signs? Probably. But it also gave me a laugh.

Also re: that ballot issue - friends IL's live in Midland. SUPER TRUMPY. Anti vax (her mom legit lost her job because she refused to get the vax). Friend is pretty sure they are voting FOR the issue. @@@@@@@@@ and loss mention follows: 2 of their other daughters had late term pregnancy losses last year. It was horrible and traumatic for those women (who are also ultra conservative "pro-lifers"). And it was brought to their attention that the medical term for what happened is a late term abortion. They had no idea THAT is what that meant. And my friend was like....you could hear the record scratch when ILs were telling them they needed to protect women's health after having this personal and tragic experience.

So I have high hopes at least for that piece of our election in our state.

Will also be very interesting to see how our state legislature shakes out after our first redistricting elections since the non-partisan committee redrew district lines.

[ellipses84]

Nov 8, 2022 12:11:28 GMT -5 dirtyred said:

Election judge here--my county is dark red. High turnout and a lot of women are voting. voting. I hope this bodes well for the Dems, but you never know.

I’m really hoping the polls and stats are off because at least a small percentage of Rs and most of the unaffiliated voters have realized the R party does not support human rights or freedom, and will vote for those issues even if they don’t bother to change their party affiliation.

[noodleoo]

Nov 8, 2022 12:26:42 GMT -5 lust2hart said:

penelope , noodleoo , can you please add @ tags?

I’m working the polls and it has been busier than usual. I’m definitely eager to see how things turn out.

Sorry!!! I forgot where I was.  Thanks to whoever fixed it.  

[buffalogal]

Nov 8, 2022 10:16:42 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

It amazes me that every year the Republicans think it's a good idea to litter town illegally with their signs. The party of law and order until it doesn't suit them.

the grassy median of a local highway had the R NY governor candidate's signs all over. the other day i noticed quite a few of them had been slashed and ripped up. i cackled.   

[prettyinpearls]

I made the mistake of scrolling through Twitter and seeing MTG (and other GOP) screaming about the voting machine issues in AZ (and I think NJ?). I just can't with these people.

[heat40]

It’s not looking good in Florida, specifically Miami Dade. We have been a solid blue county for as long as I can remember. I’ve noticed a shift and know it was inevitable but this soon, and under these circumstances, hurts.

[shauni27]

Nov 8, 2022 12:26:42 GMT -5 lust2hart said:

I’m working the polls and it has been busier than usual. I’m definitely eager to see how things turn out.

The last time I voted in the midterms I was in and out in minutes. Today was slammed.

[mrshandy]

Nov 8, 2022 9:36:27 GMT -5 dancingirl21 said:

I sent our mail-in ballots last Thursday via USPS and I haven’t received confirmation that our county has them yet. Bah. I really wanted them there by today to be counted. Hopefully they still get there today.

When I voted last year mail-in for the VA governor race, I didn't receive confirmation until like 8 days after the election that my ballot had been received. It also took weeks for my ballot to arrive. I was in New Jersey for a month for work so I couldn't easily vote in person if it had never come. I was living in a shitty long-term stay hotel and I was so worried they had lost it or it had gone back return to sender. It was an incredibly, stressful frustrating process overall.