The gop speaker vote - finally final

[cous0226]

It looks like they’ll be 5 hard Nos but last night I saw there were at least 14.

I can’t find info on why the 5 are holding out and what they want. I love that they all hate each other. Also McCarthy has already moved his stuff into the speaker office.

[Velar Fricative]

I expect McCarthy will eke out a win. I think the extremists are just posturing for their bases. But we'll see!

[cous0226]

Scott Perry on CNN is going off on McCarthy right now.

[Velar Fricative]

Jan 3, 2023 10:52:44 GMT -5 cous0226 said:

Scott Perry on CNN is going off on McCarthy right now.

Scott Perry is one of the shadiest insurrectionists in Congress so fuck him.

[TR]

Jan 3, 2023 10:48:34 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

I expect McCarthy will eke out a win. I think the extremists are just posturing for their bases. But we'll see!

Agreed. As much as I would love to see them continue to implode, one thing the GOP has never been is politically stupid. They may be actually unintelligent, but they get their shit together when it comes to political savvy. Or at least they have so far. Fingers crossed this is the end of that!

[StrawberryBlondie]

Jan 3, 2023 10:48:34 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

I expect McCarthy will eke out a win. I think the extremists are just posturing for their bases. But we'll see!

Yeah, I think he'll get it eventually but I don't think it's going to be a quick win.

[Velar Fricative]

Not that there's anyone palatable who could win the role, but if they select Jim Jordan...

[seeyalater52]

Jan 3, 2023 10:59:21 GMT -5 TR said:

Jan 3, 2023 10:48:34 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

I expect McCarthy will eke out a win. I think the extremists are just posturing for their bases. But we'll see!

Agreed. As much as I would love to see them continue to implode, one thing the GOP has never been is politically stupid. They may be actually unintelligent, but they get their shit together when it comes to political savvy. Or at least they have so far. Fingers crossed this is the end of that!

Yup and leadership will “grudgingly” give these far right dinglebats a bunch of concessions they secretly wish they could fully support out loud and the rest of us will be stuck in culture wars nightmare for another 2+ years.

[cous0226]

Does anyone know what the Nos want? Is it more than Hunter Biden’s laptop hearing because I assume Kevin is up for that anyway.

[seeyalater52]

Jan 3, 2023 11:16:25 GMT -5 cous0226 said:

Does anyone know what the Nos want? Is it more than Hunter Biden’s laptop hearing because I assume Kevin is up for that anyway.

CNN has a pretty good synopsis here: www.cnn.com/2023/01/02/politics/kevin-mccarthy-house-speaker-struggle/index.html

It is a lot of procedural and rules related stuff but it boils down to wanting to decentralize the role of leadership within the caucus and on committees so that freedom caucus and other far right members have more control over what advances and what shape bills take. In particular a lot of the changes are designed to make it harder for the House to pass things that the Senate has passed (or come to resolution in conference) and easier to kill bills in committee. Also lots of desire to drag the Biden admin through various investigations but that is pretty mainstream with GOP.

[cous0226]

Jan 3, 2023 11:27:09 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

Jan 3, 2023 11:16:25 GMT -5 cous0226 said:

Does anyone know what the Nos want? Is it more than Hunter Biden’s laptop hearing because I assume Kevin is up for that anyway.

CNN has a pretty good synopsis here: www.cnn.com/2023/01/02/politics/kevin-mccarthy-house-speaker-struggle/index.html

It is a lot of procedural and rules related stuff but it boils down to wanting to decentralize the role of leadership within the caucus and on committees so that freedom caucus and other far right members have more control over what advances and what shape bills take. In particular a lot of the changes are designed to make it harder for the House to pass things that the Senate has passed (or come to resolution in conference) and easier to kill bills in committee. Also lots of desire to drag the Biden admin through various investigations but that is pretty mainstream with GOP.

Thank you

[Velar Fricative]

Jan 3, 2023 11:27:09 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

Jan 3, 2023 11:16:25 GMT -5 cous0226 said:

Does anyone know what the Nos want? Is it more than Hunter Biden’s laptop hearing because I assume Kevin is up for that anyway.

CNN has a pretty good synopsis here: www.cnn.com/2023/01/02/politics/kevin-mccarthy-house-speaker-struggle/index.html

It is a lot of procedural and rules related stuff but it boils down to wanting to decentralize the role of leadership within the caucus and on committees so that freedom caucus and other far right members have more control over what advances and what shape bills take. In particular a lot of the changes are designed to make it harder for the House to pass things that the Senate has passed (or come to resolution in conference) and easier to kill bills in committee. Also lots of desire to drag the Biden admin through various investigations but that is pretty mainstream with GOP.

So basically, get nothing done and then blame Democrats because voters will continue to eat that shit up.

[beetea]

Andy Biggs was nominated along with McCarthy. They're starting the vote now.

[curbsideprophet]

Biggs did put his name up so the Republicans do have two people up for speaker.

[beetea]

And Boebert just voted for Gym Jordan. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[bronxgirl]

I hate all these fuckers, but I was hoping to see Mccarthy humiliated before eventually getting what he wants.

[Velar Fricative]

When they get to George Santos I want to see air quotes.

[Velar Fricative]

Welp, McCarthy already lost 5 votes. And they're only up to letter G.

[Velar Fricative]

I can't hear any of the other statements being made before votes. It's Ds I've seen saying stuff before they voted Jeffries so far.

[Velar Fricative]

WTF Lee Zeldin just got a vote. He's not even in Congress anymore.

[curbsideprophet]

Jan 3, 2023 13:12:53 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

WTF Lee Zeldin just got a vote. He's not even in Congress anymore.

You don’t need to be a member to be Speaker. I am a little surprised someone has not voted for Trump.

[mrshandy]

Jan 3, 2023 13:12:53 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

WTF Lee Zeldin just got a vote. He's not even in Congress anymore.

Fun fact anybody can be speaker, even people who aren't in congress or government.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/can-outsider-be-speaker-house-n441926

[Velar Fricative]

I know anyone can be speaker, but if you're going to nominate anyone not in Congress, think of all the way cooler people out there than Lee Zeldin.

[cous0226]

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Lol

[erbear]

Jan 3, 2023 13:20:18 GMT -5 curbsideprophet said:

Jan 3, 2023 13:12:53 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

WTF Lee Zeldin just got a vote. He's not even in Congress anymore.

You don’t need to be a member to be Speaker. I am a little surprised someone has not voted for Trump.

Please do not speak this into the world.

[bronxgirl]

Jan 3, 2023 13:23:59 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

I know anyone can be speaker, but if you're going to nominate anyone not in Congress, think of all the way cooler people out there than Lee Zeldin.

It's just another way to say Fuck you to McCarthy. While i don't agree with the exact message, I strongly support the sentiment.

[momof2ms]

Just came here to say lololololol to McCarthy.

[basilosaurus]

Apartments boebart shouted out bullshit. Right word all the wrong reasons. Keep it klassy

[bronxgirl]

I wonder how many rounds this will take. Does it get increasingly more humiliating as this drags on, or does he reach a saturation point?

[Velar Fricative]

Jan 3, 2023 14:44:59 GMT -5 bronxgirl said:

I wonder how many rounds this will take. Does it get increasingly more humiliating as this drags on, or does he reach a saturation point?

I hate that they have to survey everyone again, including Democrats. I understand why, but it's too much!!! So now I'm just catching random updates as it continues.