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Heck no. Maybe they don’t wake at home, but hotel hallways can be noisy! I am sure some toddlers would immediately open the door to go find their parents, and then what?! They could also turn on the tub, open patio doors if there is a balcony, etc. And even if they do nothing, just picturing them alone and scared makes me so sad. And what if there is a fire alarm and they don’t let you back upstairs before evacuating?! There is no reason for this. If you can afford a hotel and a dinner out, you can afford a babysitter. You can also get room service or DoorDash. Or get an AirBnB and eat with the friends there.
No. Hard Pass. We traveled a fair bit when DS was little and we adjusted our expectations to include early bedtimes and quiet evenings if we weren't able to hire a babysitter.
DS is 10 and I still wouldn't leave him alone in a hotel room for an extended time. An unfamiliar place with unknown risks is entirely different than being at home. I don't think I could enjoy my time away because I would be anxious.
I am hesitant to now do it with my 12 year old because I worry if he would know what to do in an emergency in an unfamiliar place. I leave him at home all the time.
No, never. We will usually try to book a room with a seating area or balcony, so DH and I can hang out after DS goes to bed. If not, we will switch off but one of us always stays with DS.
As someone else mentioned, it’s not uncommon for room service to enter for turn down - even with the DND on - so I would never ever ever leave my kid alone in a room.
Ditto this. Yeah, sure Madeline McCann had an unlocked window but locked hotel rooms are not difficult for someone who knows how to open them. It’s not really much more secure than an unlocked window for someone motivated to do harm
I travel alone a lot. Did not need to read this. How do you ensure no one breaks in?
Post by SusanBAnthony on Mar 9, 2024 8:28:43 GMT -5
I can't even fathom a world where my baby or toddler sleeps well enough that it would ever occur to me.
I can't remember when we first started leaving our kids in hotel rooms. We do now at 14 and 16. Maybe around 10 and 12 for a longer time like dinner? Definitely younger than that for shorter periods like taking stuff to the car or getting something from the front desk.
Post by chickadee77 on Mar 9, 2024 10:18:37 GMT -5
Nope. I was tempted once - our room was right next to the little bar area in a tiny hotel that wasn't at all busy. But every horrific scenario kept coming to mind.
We have absolutely gone outside to hang out with the baby monitor, though. And, if kid was mobile, let them know, "Hey, we'll be doing x if you wake up and need us." ETA At home, lol
Then again, I left my sick 7 year old home alone today while I dropped DD off at school. I clocked it and I was back in 9 minutes.
People really don't feel comfortable leaving their 14 year olds? Unless they have special needs that seems excessive.
I am trying to think if I've ever left my kids alone in a hotel room, and I think on the types of trips we've been on, there really hasn't been a reason for me to want to go somewhere and them to want to be in the room (my kids are 12 and 14). I DO however send them to the ice machine for me, send them to the little hotel convenience store for me, etc. while I stay in the room. They wanted to go to the pool on their own on our most recent trip though, and I realized that I wasn't quite ready for that yet. I'd let them to go a fitness room (together) I think, but the pool was one step too far past my comfort zone, so I grabbed my kindle and sat and read there instead of in the room.
Really? This is something we have started doing — like we have been in Europe and out all day and DH and I want to have a drink at one of the bars in the neighborhood or listen to music or something and the kids want to chill in the room and veg on their phones rather than go to a bar.
2 weeks spending every second together would be a lot for my little family 😂
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.”
Ok maybe someone will be brave enough to click yes and discuss. So far it’s an unanimous no!
Literally multiple parents have told me this unprovoked. Including 2 mom’s who are generally very anxious and have diagnosed anxiety and take meds for it. I guess their meds are working well lol.
My partner and I just switch off going out after she goes to bed if we want to go out on vacation.
I wonder if parents that do this give them some kind of sleep aid because 3 is a crazy age to leave alone! I'd be so sad to think of my 3y/o scared and alone not knowing where I am. And I remain judgmental AF over the couple who left their two kids across town while they went to dinner. I always thought that was so reckless.
And what if there was a fire?! And your kids are stuck in a room by themselves as toddlers. So irresponsible. No way.
Ok maybe someone will be brave enough to click yes and discuss. So far it’s an unanimous no!
Literally multiple parents have told me this unprovoked. Including 2 mom’s who are generally very anxious and have diagnosed anxiety and take meds for it. I guess their meds are working well lol.
My partner and I just switch off going out after she goes to bed if we want to go out on vacation.
Want to hear from a non-parent?
I could see if my child was normally a good sleeper going for a drink in the hotel bar with a monitor. But that's my extent of blase. Can they dial 911 and have access to it?
Is that really any worse than leaving your kid with a 13 year old babysitter for many hours which was how I made my spending money in those years?
Ok maybe someone will be brave enough to click yes and discuss. So far it’s an unanimous no!
Literally multiple parents have told me this unprovoked. Including 2 mom’s who are generally very anxious and have diagnosed anxiety and take meds for it. I guess their meds are working well lol.
My partner and I just switch off going out after she goes to bed if we want to go out on vacation.
Want to hear from a non-parent?
I could see if my child was normally a good sleeper going for a drink in the hotel bar with a monitor. But that's my extent of blase. Can they dial 911 and have access to it?
Is that really any worse than leaving your kid with a 13 year old babysitter for many hours which was how I made my spending money in those years?
But I'd still say pretty much no.
Yes I think leaving a child in a hotel room who can’t use a phone or exit a building on their own during a fire or emergency is absolutely worse or more dangerous than leaving your child with a 13 year old babysitter who can complete full sentences, read, walk and operate a telephone. Do you really not see a difference? Of course leaving your child with a young babysitter is fine.
Post by maudefindlay on Mar 10, 2024 6:35:48 GMT -5
What?? Huge differences between a 3 and under child and a 13 year old. How is that even a question? I was babysitting infants at that age making bottles, changing diapers, and yes once even protected them. The parents were out late and a group of their couple friends as in 7 couples thought they were home and ran in to their house to surprise them. The baby and I were in the basement and 14 adults running thru the house upstairs yelling is loud and scary af. I grabbed that baby and was running us to the spare bedroom with a phone to call 911 when I saw one of the adults and recognized them luckily. All the adults were horrified and apologetic, but yeah having me there was very helpful vs a toddler and under.
Post by themoneytree on Mar 10, 2024 12:28:41 GMT -5
I need a special snowflake option because it depends on the circumstances.
I have done this in a pub with rooms upstairs where we were sitting right at the bottom of the only stairs with a camera on the sleeping baby live the whole time. I would never have done it in a hotel with elevators between me and kid and would not have been drinking. It really is very situation dependent.
I could see if my child was normally a good sleeper going for a drink in the hotel bar with a monitor. But that's my extent of blase. Can they dial 911 and have access to it?
Is that really any worse than leaving your kid with a 13 year old babysitter for many hours which was how I made my spending money in those years?
But I'd still say pretty much no.
Yes I think leaving a child in a hotel room who can’t use a phone or exit a building on their own during a fire or emergency is absolutely worse or more dangerous than leaving your child with a 13 year old babysitter who can complete full sentences, read, walk and operate a telephone. Do you really not see a difference? Of course leaving your child with a young babysitter is fine.
Oh, yes, I absolutely see a difference. I can just see someone going through that thinking of leaving a child while downstaris isn't too different than leaving that child in their mcmansionion unattended as long as they have their monitor.
I didn't say I agree with it.
And, honestly, how often does a fire or emergency happen in hotels? I can see the thought process is all I'm saying.
I am trying to think if I've ever left my kids alone in a hotel room, and I think on the types of trips we've been on, there really hasn't been a reason for me to want to go somewhere and them to want to be in the room (my kids are 12 and 14). I DO however send them to the ice machine for me, send them to the little hotel convenience store for me, etc. while I stay in the room. They wanted to go to the pool on their own on our most recent trip though, and I realized that I wasn't quite ready for that yet. I'd let them to go a fitness room (together) I think, but the pool was one step too far past my comfort zone, so I grabbed my kindle and sat and read there instead of in the room.
Really? This is something we have started doing — like we have been in Europe and out all day and DH and I want to have a drink at one of the bars in the neighborhood or listen to music or something and the kids want to chill in the room and veg on their phones rather than go to a bar.
2 weeks spending every second together would be a lot for my little family 😂
I don’t leave my kids at 13 and 10 but I also have a 5 year old. I can’t really imagine just leaving the older 2 either. We all eat together. We buy drinks to have in the room. I’m sure they are old enough, I just can’t imagine a scenario in which I would leave them. Vacation ends up being *a lot* of family time and I’m so happy to head home at the end and be away from them lol.
Yes I think leaving a child in a hotel room who can’t use a phone or exit a building on their own during a fire or emergency is absolutely worse or more dangerous than leaving your child with a 13 year old babysitter who can complete full sentences, read, walk and operate a telephone. Do you really not see a difference? Of course leaving your child with a young babysitter is fine.
Oh, yes, I absolutely see a difference. I can just see someone going through that thinking of leaving a child while downstaris isn't too different than leaving that child in their mcmansionion unattended as long as they have their monitor.
I didn't say I agree with it.
And, honestly, how often does a fire or emergency happen in hotels? I can see the thought process is all I'm saying.
I don’t know the statistics but I’ve been in a hotel on more than 1 occasion in which the alarm has gone off and we had to exit. I’ve also been when there have been false alarms. Also been in rooms where people have entered mistakenly or housekeeping has come in even if do not disturb sign is on.
No. Before we had kids, we were in Vegas and heard a kid crying in the hallway in the middle of the night. She's was about 5. She took me to her room where her 3ish year old sister was also crying. They woke up afraid and alone. I called hotel security. The parents returned within 15 minutes saying they had just run to the ATM. Seems very unlikely, but that stuck with me. I would hesitate to leave even my older kids in a hotel. What if there was a fire?
Fire alarms go off all the time in hotel rooms. We've had false alarms where we have to exit three separate times that would definitely wake a sleeping child.
Oh, yes, I absolutely see a difference. I can just see someone going through that thinking of leaving a child while downstaris isn't too different than leaving that child in their mcmansionion unattended as long as they have their monitor.
I didn't say I agree with it.
And, honestly, how often does a fire or emergency happen in hotels? I can see the thought process is all I'm saying.
I don’t know the statistics but I’ve been in a hotel on more than 1 occasion in which the alarm has gone off and we had to exit. I’ve also been when there have been false alarms. Also been in rooms where people have entered mistakenly or housekeeping has come in even if do not disturb sign is on.
Oh yes to housekeeping entering despite do not disturb sign. That happened to me 3 times in the last week. But never at the hours when someone might put a kid down and go for a drink or dinner.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but in all my countries and travels I've never had any kind of alarm.
You asked for what people might be thinking, and I'm speculating on it. A history of zero issues previously combined with thinking it's not much farther than their living room. Isn't previous experience regardless of its logic or relevance the reason of a lot of bad decisions?
Fire alarms go off all the time in hotel rooms. We've had false alarms where we have to exit three separate times that would definitely wake a sleeping child.
Interesting! My H travels for a living and stays in a large variety of hotels and only one time in his career has the fire alarm gone off. We had this discussion last night; he thinks he’s logged 4000 nights in a hotel. He has been very lucky I guess!
Fire alarms go off all the time in hotel rooms. We've had false alarms where we have to exit three separate times that would definitely wake a sleeping child.
Interesting! My H travels for a living and stays in a large variety of hotels and only one time in his career has the fire alarm gone off. We had this discussion last night; he thinks he’s logged 4000 nights in a hotel. He has been very lucky I guess!
I've also had a stranger enter my room in the middle of the night because they were confused and got the wrong room and apparently our lock wasn't working. Maybe I just have bad luck at hotels? lol
Fire alarms go off all the time in hotel rooms. We've had false alarms where we have to exit three separate times that would definitely wake a sleeping child.
Interesting! My H travels for a living and stays in a large variety of hotels and only one time in his career has the fire alarm gone off. We had this discussion last night; he thinks he’s logged 4000 nights in a hotel. He has been very lucky I guess!
I travel a ton (probably same as your husband) and I’ve only had 1 time the fire alarm went off or there was some sort of emergency (2am in NYC). I’m shocked at that “a lot” to “always” people.
Interesting! My H travels for a living and stays in a large variety of hotels and only one time in his career has the fire alarm gone off. We had this discussion last night; he thinks he’s logged 4000 nights in a hotel. He has been very lucky I guess!
I travel a ton (probably same as your husband) and I’ve only had 1 time the fire alarm went off or there was some sort of emergency (2am in NYC). I’m shocked at that “a lot” to “always” people.
I travel a ton (probably same as your husband) and I’ve only had 1 time the fire alarm went off or there was some sort of emergency (2am in NYC). I’m shocked at that “a lot” to “always” people.
I don't understand what this means.
Yeah I was clear as mud. I was talking about the “alarms go off all the time” type comments. In my experience that has happened in only 1 of my ~4000 hotel room stays.