In 2016 I still had hope. I thought most of us cared about protecting our democracy, basic rights, preserving checks and balances. We had laws and regulations that protected us from implementing their worst impulses.
This time around I know better, and that's why I can't shake this chill. This is all a big joke to the fools that voted for him. A functioning government isn't entertaining, and entertainment is what they breathe. The more pain and fear they inflict- in others- the better.
Personally, I didn't really like either candidate. However, I am holding out hope that RFK Jr will come through on his promise to raise US standards for what is considered safe in our food and water.
I am feeling pretty numb too. I do not feel the absolute shock and world shattering that I felt in 2016 - but I did really have hope that this time would be different. I haven't truly cried, but I did see a video from Kamala's campaign on TikTok a few minutes ago that made me start to tear up. All that hope and joy - for nothing.
I am going to have to sit with the fact that he won the popular vote and what that means the majority of Americans want or believe. It's not just that they hate women - we hate ourselves, too. A lot of women voted for him. A lot of women looked at a well qualified, kind, smart woman and said - nope.
I am also just exhausted, physically and emotionally. I was on my feet for the majority of 15 hours yesterday, and had trouble sleeping between the election news and sciatica from being on my feet all day. The only good news is that I was too beat to even want to drink last night, so at least I'm not hungover - I poured a cocktail but only had a couple of sips. So that's better than my 2016 hangover, I guess.
brooke77 I would happily take any and every person with a uterus to get an IUD and am doubling down on my advice to the youngest sexually active people on this front. It was the best decision of my life. Maybe my calling is to be an IUD doula.
But speaking of the young, I actually was holding it mostly together until I got to work, although it was very hard to tell DS. One of my young female employees called out. The other is straight-up MIA, which is fine. She knows I understand. My older genX employee was sitting there in tears. I told her to go home. For so many women and gay men and trans people and POC I work with, this was their first election. The loss of hope is such a deep pain. Maybe the worst pain.
Personally, I didn't really like either candidate. However, I am holding out hope that RFK Jr will come through on his promise to raise US standards for what is considered safe in our food and water.
RAISE US STANDARDS FOR WHAT IS CONSIDERED SAFE FOR OUR FOOD AND WATER? From RFK Jr.? You actually typed that?
Do you even KNOW who he is and what he stands for? Because it sure isn't "safe" measures. It's deregulation, anti-vaxxing, anti-preventive care.
Critical thinking and research is a good thing. You should try it sometime.
Post by underwaterrhymes on Nov 6, 2024 10:58:19 GMT -5
Covergirl82 - have you even listened to a word Trump and Vance and RFJ Jr have said? And not on Fox News. They are coming for the civil rights of everyone who is not a cis heterosexual while male. They are going to cut social security and Medicare and Medicaid. They plan to take AWAY healthcare and environmental protections. They are going to eliminate the ACÁ and the FDA and NOAA. They are going to institute a nationwide abortion ban. And that doesn’t even touch on the other civil rights rollbacks that will assuredly happen.
Miss me with your ignorance and fucking educate yourself.
PS - hope you aren’t too attached to your teeth and your voting rights.
I was pretty numb until I had to tell DD. Seeing the look of devastation on her face broke my heart and I cried all the way home from school drop off. Because of her I won’t give up. I don’t know where we go from here but I’ll keep doing what I can to make America better.
I am not surprised at the result though. I’ve had a nagging sense of doom brewing in my stomach since the weekend. The way you all gave me hope was beautiful but this was always going to be the result. People suck.
Personally, I didn't really like either candidate. However, I am holding out hope that RFK Jr will come through on his promise to raise US standards for what is considered safe in our food and water.
Personally, I didn't really like either candidate. However, I am holding out hope that RFK Jr will come through on his promise to raise US standards for what is considered safe in our food and water.
Post by hbomdiggity on Nov 6, 2024 11:06:54 GMT -5
As others have said, in 2016 maybe we didn’t know better, a desire to try something new (but there were signs!). But FFS now we know exactly what we are getting, and it’s an even worse and emboldened version. And while I want to prove these to these idiots how dumb they are, I fear what that would take. So instead I lean on our democracy to prevail.
Ok douche, go ahead and call it mud. My husband DID have halitosis. We addressed it after I talked to you girls on here and guess what? Years later, no problem. Mofongo, you're a cunt. Eat shit. ~anonnamus
Personally, I didn't really like either candidate. However, I am holding out hope that RFK Jr will come through on his promise to raise US standards for what is considered safe in our food and water.
Wow. I don’t consistently go here but get the fucking out. You’re thinking Is why we are in this mess. I’m so tired of everyone’s excuses.
RFK JR? Seriously? He had NO ONE in his family support him. He recently had an affair. He’s also made promises to eliminate vaccines, healthcare access, etc. you hoping he makes good on that promise as well?
Well--now I understand how this election happened. Jesus, man.
Men I have come to expect this from. White, black, brown - none of them will stand up for women. But I don't know why it still shocks me about white women. They have shown time and time again, yet it still shocks me. Maybe I'm more shocked about the complete ignorance?
Post by underwaterrhymes on Nov 6, 2024 11:15:51 GMT -5
Telling my kids was so fucking hard. They were so little in 2016, they didn’t really grasp things. They understand very clearly what is at stake now. I left them skip remote learning today and have ice cream sandwiches for breakfast. 💔
I am not surprised at the result though. I’ve had a nagging sense of doom brewing in my stomach since the weekend. The way you all gave me hope was beautiful but this was always going to be the result. People suck.
I agree. There were signs. I think the WP and LA Times not endorsing her was a HUGE red flag. They knew something. MH, who is an Independent and not on any social media or involved in politics AT ALL (but has voted D the past 3 elections) was blathering on about some market indictors pointing to a Trump win about a week and a half ago. I wished I had paid attention to what he was saying bc it wasn't malarkey like betting markets, it was something legitimate. I dismissed him and talked him down. But his entire job is analyzing numbers and making predictions based on hard numbers and trends. I'm going to ask him what it was when he gets home.
Does anyone else (and sorry for the TMI) suffer gastric distress when under extreme stress and anxiety? My stomach is a wreck and my heart keeps racing.
Yes. I threw up in 2016, and threw up again last night. It’s like my mind doesn’t know how to effectively emotionally process it and so my body literally rejects it.
Does anyone else (and sorry for the TMI) suffer gastric distress when under extreme stress and anxiety? My stomach is a wreck and my heart keeps racing.
Yes. My stomach has been a wreck for days. I actually threw up last night and haven't been able to stay out of the bathroom all morning.
I was devastated and shocked in 2016, now I’m just so very sad. And worried for my queer son. A woman at my H’s work told him yesterday she never wants a woman to be president because they’re too emotional and impulsive, the internalized and blatant misogyny is so discouraging, I just feel hopeless about the future of our country. Tomorrow I will try to find some positives but just need to process today. And the idea RFK will do anything to benefit society is a joke, anyone who thinks he will is an idiot.
Personally, I didn't really like either candidate. However, I am holding out hope that RFK Jr will come through on his promise to raise US standards for what is considered safe in our food and water.
You don't like VP Harris in the same way you don't like Trump??!! Those 2 are not even comparable. And RFK Jr is not going to help anything. Float off in your own little bubble.
My 13 year old, who is NOT a snuggly kid, and prides herself on being able to handle her shit, sobbed in my arms in the kitchen this morning.
My 16 year old announced that if she gets married, she’s having the wedding on an island so her (refused to vote for Harris, afraid to fly anywhere) grandmother won’t come. She skipped the sadness part of mourning, and has gone straight to rage and anger. She is eligible to vote in 16 months.
I informed H I don’t know that I can spend any time with his parents anymore. And I’m not going to force my kids to either. He can be a line of communication with them if he chooses, but I’m out.
Personally, I didn't really like either candidate. However, I am holding out hope that RFK Jr will come through on his promise to raise US standards for what is considered safe in our food and water.
This thinking is what got us here.” People” didn’t really like Clinton in 2016, so the third party votes gave Trump the presidency.
As for thinking that worm brain will further public safety, I would say LOL, but I really mean Sob out loud. Cutting vaccines and “big government” will only make us less safe.
Telling our kids was misery. The look on their faces will haunt me. Part of me wanted to keep them home today- but I know they'll benefit from the distractions of school.
We taught them both to be brave, confident, to challenge cruelty and unfairness, all qualities we value. Now it feels like those things could put them in danger.
NOW will you join those of us who gave up on the American people a long time ago?
No, because I know that as a white-passing woman nearing the end of childbearing years I still have privilege that the WOC in my maternal family, including my mother, don't have. Women are going to lose a lot, but some are going to lose a lot more. We cannot leave them behind.