Wait a fucking minute...you leave your children in a car unattended too? What the ever-loving fuck is wrong with you?
When I go in the gas station to pay, I am not going to get 3 kids out of the car. Absolutely not. We don't have pay at the pump at the closest station to me. And there is nothing wrong with me other than zero desire to drag 3 kids out of seats and back into them after spending about 45 seconds giving the cashier $20. Especially on the winter when I would have to put coats back on them (since i take them off to strap them in) then take them all back off when I get back in the car. No, thank you.
Do you know how many times I've dragged my two kids into a store/gas station/ATM for 30 fucking seconds? EVERY TIME. Why? Because you can't just leave your kids in the car. And as I said before, it's not just because of the dangers of temperature or kidnapping or carjacking. It's because someone could call the police and you are suddenly being investigated by CPS. I still think that the "friend" is you, because you dont just know some of the details, you know ALL of the details. It's mind boggling that you are still saying that you'd leave your kids in the car to pay for gas after this "misunderstanding" with your "friend". Uh huh.
Don't leave your children unattended. Period. It really is that simple.
One of the gas stations near me doesn't have pay at the pump either. Know what I do? I fill up on the way to work or on a weekend running errands or any one of several times a week I'm in the car without the children.
For real, you are all excuses. No, CPS isn't usually this hyper-vigilant; but fuck, what do you expect after she called and complained?
((Applause))
you do what you have to do to keep your kids safe and sound. Sometimes it's as easy as planning ahead. If LHC can find a way, you can too
Nothing in this story makes a whole lot of sense. And you're way too involved in your "friends" business.
She came to me, since I picked up the script on Thursday. Then Friday she asked my opinion about CPS, since I have had dealings with them regarding my older sister (which I think I mentioned prior....). Since this is completely unlike what the investigator did with my sister (same person) I am baffled too.
Wait. Now we are supposed to believe that your sister and this chick have the same investigator? You mean the one who has allll the time in the world to make multiple visits a day over several days?
I'm at the point where the only thing I think actually happened was that these children were left in the car. You know how you can tell people are usually lying? When they share so many minute details that they don't add up or they make the story seem so far-fetched that it just HAS to be true.
And really, small town or not, you need to stop leaving kids in the car. I've done the small town thing. You do know that those small towns aren't surrounded by walls, right? Just because it seems unlikely that people might be coming in that you don't know, that doesn't mean that they aren't there.
Seeing the backlash it does bring some critical thinking on my part, especially the links posted earlier. (I can't quote, on my iPad)
There are exactly 3 investigators for our county. Chances are really good that there will be the same one used that I've dealt with. It also makes it more boggling, since there are only 3 investigators why the manpower/time on her? Yep, she did call and complain, so maybe he is taking it personal. In my history he was never vigilant on follow ups or really investigating due to time constraints and caseloads.
Post by EmilieMadison on Sept 22, 2013 19:37:01 GMT -5
Are there any details about ANYTHING that you dont know? Your sisters's CPS case, your "friend's" case, how many case workers there are. Geez. Your friend did something that warranted a CPS investigation, then decided she was above all that and went and pissed off the person who is holding her family's future in their hands. SMART. So much of this is just...so stupid. If my baby was so sick that hospitalization was on the horizon, I wouldn't be like "Oh, finally he's asleep, I"ll LEAVE HIM ALONE in the car." Seriously, this whole fiasco is one big derp.
Since I reported my sister, yeah I do know a lot. She was never a good mother and has subsequently lost all 4 of her kids, but not when she lived here.
I'm just trying to help my friend, by being a friend. She knows I have experience with this stuff, so I can give her more insight than the regular person. I did talk her into getting a lawyer. I did tell her it was a piss poor idea to mouth off to CPS in the first place. (I'm sure emotions played a lot into it: fear, anger, feeling like a bad parent, embarrassment). I did let her know I am here to help in any way. She is actually lurking as I type, telling me on messenger that she could not believe the outrage happening, that she is reading the commentary and that she is thankful for the advice. (And thanking me for telling you all that I have done it too, which obviously sparked a new level of pissed off, pitch fork wielding anger, lol)
But, like I said before she did what she thought the best thing was. She can't take it back. She can only move forward protecting her family the best she can.
Post by AmeliaBedelia on Sept 22, 2013 20:16:27 GMT -5
When should we expect your "friend" to start posting, then? I feel like that must be coming soon... This seems more and more like mud the more you post.
Post by thinkofthesoldiers on Sept 22, 2013 20:17:33 GMT -5
Oh, so your "friend" is reading this? Ok. Well here. How about you fucking own up to what you did. Stop playing the victim. Do what needs doing. Fix whatever you remember from the report. Be contrite. Show some humility. And for the love of all that is holy, if you are going to have three kids, realize that you are going to have to haul three kid in and out of the car all the time. I don't understand how that is hard to understand. If you can't do that, well, then your kids need a better parent so let CPS do their job.
Post by snipsnsnails on Sept 22, 2013 21:33:04 GMT -5
If anything, this thread reminds me that I am sooooo glad I don't live in smalltown America anymore. And not because I leave my kids in the car (pssst, I don't).
Ok I'm just a lurker who is wasting a few mins before going to bed but have unfortunately had to call cps previously. How did the nurse who called cps have any of the detailed information that they ask for when you do call? (of course maybe it's different because of the situation) but I know when I called some of the questions they wanted to know had me scratching my head as to how any of that was relevant. But as I said, maybe with such a different situation than mine.... Just food for thought!
Post by Bree Van de Kamp on Sept 23, 2013 2:03:46 GMT -5
What is so surprising about the fact that the posters here think it's outfuckingrageous to leave children unattended in a car? I'm sure the majority of Americans would have reacted the same way when asked to weigh in on the topic. Obviously, your "friend" doesn't think it's a big deal, which is just really fucking fabulous.
Btw, lurker "friend"... leaving a sick child in a closed up car is even more dangerous than leaving a healthy one, so you may need to come up with a better excuse.
Post by pixelpassion on Sept 23, 2013 3:40:11 GMT -5
How long ago did you report your sister to cps? I'm surprised you'd have the same worker since the burnout rate for that job is high and many workers quit after a year.
Post by themoneytree on Sept 23, 2013 6:15:08 GMT -5
What does it matter if it's her or her friend? Who cares either way?
OP the more I read the more horrifying this gets. I think your friend acted in a very understandable way. I am saddened that a small mistake on her part led to the nurse's lying and crazy behavior. I am glad your friend is lawyering up and hope this gets resolved quickly.
M neighbor's sister had to be observed by CPS for a while. It all sounds like my worst nightmare. So humiliating and awful.
Good luck to you guys and while I'm pretty sure the pile on from MUD gang may dissuade you from posting, I for one would love to see an update when the lawyer is on board.
This can definitely go the other way though. From personal experience, I lived in an affluent area and CPS investigated our family twice for child abuse. I definitely should have been removed from my home, but my CPS worker thought my case was a waste of time because we were living in a high SES (socioeconomic status) and called me an entitled spoiled brat even though there was clearly abuse happening.
I'm sorry. It breaks my heart when children aren't believed and learn not to trust.
Me too I've told pixel before that her CPS worker was a class A douche and doesn't deserve to breathe air
Post by themysteriouswife on Sept 23, 2013 7:16:12 GMT -5
Leaving your kids in a car for any reason is stupid. I live outside Atlanta. The big thing for criminals right now, is to take unattended cars at gas stations. They are in and out in less than a min. There have been a lot of kids taken.
Stop leaving your kids in the car when you pay for gas.
Leaving your kids in a car for any reason is stupid. I live outside Atlanta. The big thing for criminals right now, is to take unattended cars at gas stations. They are in and out in less than a min. There have been a lot of kids taken.
Stop leaving your kids in the car when you pay for gas.
This happened on Macon last summer, except it wasn't at a gas station. It was in the driveway at the home of the mom's friend in a residential neighborhood. Mom was in the house for 10 minutes and understandably wanted the leave her five month old in the A/C of the car, so she left the keys in the ignition with the A/C running.
A thief took the car and drove off, then later took the carseat out with the baby strapped in it and LEFT HER ON A SIDEWALK. (She was later found unharmed)
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No real update. She called me last night and her lawyer is going to look into it. She said that she had a "few more" calls from CPS. Right now she said she waits.
I've dealt with them thanks to my shitastic family 6 years ago, until 2 years ago. My sister was addicted to Xanax and would sleep for days, then be up for days. She had 2 kids (they are now 10 & 8). The kids would take off, cross a busy highway and be found at the school playground, at the store, at the gas station, etc.They missed an average of 1-2 days a week. Sister didn't work, got state assistance (including cash) and was investigated numerous times. I called CPS because the school called me one day saying that the kids were there, my sister wasn't answering her phone and someone needed to get them. (My parents and myself were emergency contacts). I went and got the kids, went to sisters house and no answer at the door. Knocked, banged, yelled. Nada. So I took the kids home with me, called CPS upon the advice of my mom. I had to go buy them clothes and shoes since theirs were at home. CPS came the next day, sister didn't answer still, interviewed the kids, they tried sisters house again, got her up. She told them I volunteered to take the kids as she was "sick". Kids said no, I said no. CPS ended up buying her all kinds of stuff and upping her monthly cash allowance. This went on for 4 years, until she moved. The school called CPS for truancy, her neighbors called, family. Nothing was done until she moved and CPS was called for the same things, they took the kids and they are in foster care. They are so much better off this way.
There's my dealings with CPS. I think it is a disgrace the way my sister was investigated, compared to my friend. That's also why friend came to me.
And yes, we both have 3 kids. But her oldest is a boy with 2 younger girls. I have 3 girls (heaven help me when they all hit puberty....) we worked at the same hospital, different departments.
Leaving your kids in a car for any reason is stupid. I live outside Atlanta. The big thing for criminals right now, is to take unattended cars at gas stations. They are in and out in less than a min. There have been a lot of kids taken.
Stop leaving your kids in the car when you pay for gas.
This happened on Macon last summer, except it wasn't at a gas station. It was in the driveway at the home of the mom's friend in a residential neighborhood. Mom was in the house for 10 minutes and understandably wanted the leave her five month old in the A/C of the car, so she left the keys in the ignition with the A/C running.
A thief took the car and drove off, then later took the carseat out with the baby strapped in it and LEFT HER ON A SIDEWALK. (She was later found unharmed)