Ugh, it's school supply shopping time. My kids start on the 6th I think. I should probably check.
Of August?! Or September? I really don't get why it seems that schools in the south start so early. I know they get out in May, but is June really worse than August? And aren't the schools air conditioned anyway?
In Los Angeles they all started at the beginning or middle of August. July, August and September are fucking HOT. May and June are really quite lovely. I would advocate that they should run school until June 30, then start again September 15. It would save on AC costs, at least.
Post by Miss Phryne Fisher on Jul 22, 2014 17:54:16 GMT -5
I just emailed the principal at my school to see if there was anyone doing a supply drive or if there was any way to donate backpacks. I feel like filling one to the brim with Crayolas right now.
Ugh, it's school supply shopping time. My kids start on the 6th I think. I should probably check.
Of August?! Or September? I really don't get why it seems that schools in the south start so early. I know they get out in May, but is June really worse than August? And aren't the schools air conditioned anyway?
In Los Angeles they all started at the beginning or middle of August. July, August and September are fucking HOT. May and June are really quite lovely. I would advocate that they should run school until June 30, then start again September 15. It would save on AC costs, at least.
August actually and you know what? I don't get it either. Everyone says it's the AC but that's a load of fucking horseshit. I've lived the south the majority of my life now (Omg, kill me) and I can tell you unequivocally that August is not cooler than June. SHUT UP. (not you but general you.)
I really cannot get adjusted to this horseshit. I've never heard that there's any sort of harvest minded reason for it either so fuck if I know. But the first week of August is too damned soon to be in fucking school, okay?
Yes, I feel strongly about this lolol.
I believe we went to school in late August in Guam but that was in anticipation of typhoon season. So maybe that's it. IDK.
I honestly hate the term "help". No. If the state is ok with her being the sole guardian of 10+ kids then she needs constant, consistent, appropriately sized funds and assistance to care for all these kids all by herself. You don't say "oh I paid your utilities for a few months!!" And think you are good to go. EVERY DAMN DAY this woman has kids in her care and doesn't have a job she needs this. So yeah, if I was her I'd be ragey too. Don't give me one hotel room for all of us and say you did enough.
You all are gonna make me buy up all the crayola in the region and donate them all.
Her comment about somebody needing to pay for her kids is off putting. That doesn't mean the kids don't deserve assistance, but she isn't helping her case with that statement.
I wonder what she's doing to help pay for her kids.
That state took her half her income away? No. Half her income went away because her partner committed a crime. The state is ok with her being sole guardian of 10 children? Well I suppose the alternative would be foster placement but if she's not actively neglecting them that's not reasonable. WTF is with all the blame on the govt here? I know this board is very anti- bootstraps / personal responsibility, but this lady can take an active role in helping herself. Perhaps job #1 would be not alienating the people who mean to offer her assistance with her shitty attitude.
Her comment about somebody needing to pay for her kids is off putting. That doesn't mean the kids don't deserve assistance, but she isn't helping her case with that statement.
I wonder what she's doing to help pay for her kids.
What is she supposed to do? Put them in daycare while she goes to work some shitty hourly job at minimum wage? That won't work very well.
At this point I'm not sure what her options are beyond taking any government help she can to keep her babies fed, clothed, and cared for/safe.
That state took her half her income away? No. Half her income went away because her partner committed a crime. The state is ok with her being sole guardian of 10 children? Well I suppose the alternative would be foster placement but if she's not actively neglecting them that's not reasonable. WTF is with all the blame on the govt here? I know this board is very anti- bootstraps / personal responsibility, but this lady can take an active role in helping herself. Perhaps job #1 would be not alienating the people who mean to offer her assistance with her shitty attitude.
No one is blaming the government. I don't know where you got that.
It's the government's job to provide that assistance if she applies and qualifies for it, regardless of her attitude. If it was any other job that didn't deal with the poors, no one would be expecting gratitude.
Her comment about somebody needing to pay for her kids is off putting. That doesn't mean the kids don't deserve assistance, but she isn't helping her case with that statement.
I wonder what she's doing to help pay for her kids.
What is she supposed to do? Put them in daycare while she goes to work some shitty hourly job at minimum wage? That won't work very well.
At this point I'm not sure what her options are beyond taking any government help she can to keep her babies fed, clothed, and cared for/safe.
Her comment about somebody needing to pay for her kids is off putting. That doesn't mean the kids don't deserve assistance, but she isn't helping her case with that statement.
I wonder what she's doing to help pay for her kids.
What is she supposed to do with 15 damned kids? Her SO is in jail and she can't put all those kids in daycare. Nor can she leave that many at home.
Am I the only one who wouldn't want to leave that many kids to take care of themselves even if they are at an age where you ordinarily would? I leave my almost 13 year old home with his 2 year old brother and 10 year old sister so I can run out for an hour or two. But if there more than four of them in this house, there is no damned way.
Her comment about somebody needing to pay for her kids is off putting. That doesn't mean the kids don't deserve assistance, but she isn't helping her case with that statement.
I wonder what she's doing to help pay for her kids.
What is she supposed to do with 15 damned kids? Her SO is in jail and she can't put all those kids in daycare. Nor can she leave that many at home.
Am I the only one who wouldn't want to leave that many kids to take care of themselves even if they are at an age where you ordinarily would? I leave my almost 13 year old home with his 2 year old brother and 10 year old sister so I can run out for an hour or two. But if there more than four of them in this house, there is no damned way.
I just bought Jackson's school supply list in triplicate and I made sure to buy all name brand supplies, including crayola crayons. But I probably won't even get a thanks because I just drop it off with his school to have them give it to whoever needs it. Ungrateful!*. I like the idea of doing backpacks too; I hadn't thought of that before. So thanks @majorwife!
*just kidding
I love school supply shopping almost as much as I love Christmas and the elf on a shelf.
Her comment about somebody needing to pay for her kids is off putting. That doesn't mean the kids don't deserve assistance, but she isn't helping her case with that statement.
I wonder what she's doing to help pay for her kids.
What is she supposed to do with 15 damned kids? Her SO is in jail and she can't put all those kids in daycare. Nor can she leave that many at home.
Am I the only one who wouldn't want to leave that many kids to take care of themselves even if they are at an age where you ordinarily would? I leave my almost 13 year old home with his 2 year old brother and 10 year old sister so I can run out for an hour or two. But if there more than four of them in this house, there is no damned way.
I don't feel much better about my odds with one adult and 15 kids, so I'd probably just leave them anyhow.
I just bought Jackson's school supply list in triplicate and I made sure to buy all name brand supplies, including crayola crayons. But I probably won't even get a thanks because I just drop it off with his school to have them give it to whoever needs it. Ungrateful!*. I like the idea of doing backpacks too; I hadn't thought of that before. So thanks @majorwife!
*just kidding
I love school supply shopping almost as much as I love Christmas and the elf on a shelf.
I LOVE school supply shopping! I have been stocking up on all the sales the last few weeks. I have glue sticks for days and Crayola for miles. It's all going to the school supply drive at work. DS's teacher gets a triplicate of supplies for the class and a mid-year restock. His school doesn't have the supply needs that the school near my office does.
That state took her half her income away? No. Half her income went away because her partner committed a crime. The state is ok with her being sole guardian of 10 children? Well I suppose the alternative would be foster placement but if she's not actively neglecting them that's not reasonable. WTF is with all the blame on the govt here? I know this board is very anti- bootstraps / personal responsibility, but this lady can take an active role in helping herself. Perhaps job #1 would be not alienating the people who mean to offer her assistance with her shitty attitude.
Literal lol. Welcome, Hayworth. Hold on to your ass.
I just bought Jackson's school supply list in triplicate and I made sure to buy all name brand supplies, including crayola crayons. But I probably won't even get a thanks because I just drop it off with his school to have them give it to whoever needs it. Ungrateful!*. I like the idea of doing backpacks too; I hadn't thought of that before. So thanks @majorwife!
*just kidding
I love school supply shopping almost as much as I love Christmas and the elf on a shelf.
Post by Miss Phryne Fisher on Jul 22, 2014 20:55:56 GMT -5
I know I am derailing from the bootstraps conversation, but can someone tell me what kind of backpacks you guys get for your kids? Is it "cool "to have a character pack, or should I go plain? Where is the best place to buy one? My kid has an LLbean backpack and while I want to donate supplies, I cannot afford 2-3 more LLbean packs.
I know I am derailing from the bootstraps conversation, but can someone tell me what kind of backpacks you guys get for your kids? Is it "cool "to have a character pack, or should I go plain? Where is the best place to buy one? My kid has an LLbean backpack and while I want to donate supplies, I cannot afford 2-3 more LLbean packs.
I'm thinking I will look at jansport ones. I'm not sure their price point but they are at target and have lifetime guarantees. I think they are cheaper than ll bean though.
I've also gotten great deals on land's end backpacks over the years so I may watch for that. I usually buy my kids pbk backpacks when they are on super sale because I like how the lunchbox attaches. I may keep that in mind for the future too since I've gotten them really cheap in the past.
Post by statlerwaldorf on Jul 22, 2014 21:09:40 GMT -5
For you guys donating school supplies, try contacting the school to see what they need. We asked the principal in a lower income area and she said things like backpacks, sweatpants, tennis shoes, boots, scarves, and socks were more helpful than more crayons and scissors.
I know I am derailing from the bootstraps conversation, but can someone tell me what kind of backpacks you guys get for your kids? Is it "cool "to have a character pack, or should I go plain? Where is the best place to buy one? My kid has an LLbean backpack and while I want to donate supplies, I cannot afford 2-3 more LLbean packs.
Our schools require mesh. But if yours don't, I would get a generic solid color backpack. The only thing more embarrassing as a broke child than rose art crayons is carrying a MLP backpack when you're far more into Littlest Pet Shop.
Jansport or whatever middling range target or walmart carries is fine.
Her comment about somebody needing to pay for her kids is off putting. That doesn't mean the kids don't deserve assistance, but she isn't helping her case with that statement.
I wonder what she's doing to help pay for her kids.
What is she supposed to do with 15 damned kids? Her SO is in jail and she can't put all those kids in daycare. Nor can she leave that many at home.
Am I the only one who wouldn't want to leave that many kids to take care of themselves even if they are at an age where you ordinarily would? I leave my almost 13 year old home with his 2 year old brother and 10 year old sister so I can run out for an hour or two. But if there more than four of them in this house, there is no damned way.
I agree that there's no easy solution. I certainly wasn't suggesting that she leave her kids unattended.
Again, I do believe her kids deserve assistance, but since she helped create this issue, I'm just wondering if she has taken any steps to address/prevent the issue.
I don't think it's right for anyone to get themselves into a bind and then demand that someone else fix the problem.
I know I am derailing from the bootstraps conversation, but can someone tell me what kind of backpacks you guys get for your kids? Is it "cool "to have a character pack, or should I go plain? Where is the best place to buy one? My kid has an LLbean backpack and while I want to donate supplies, I cannot afford 2-3 more LLbean packs.
I know I am derailing from the bootstraps conversation, but can someone tell me what kind of backpacks you guys get for your kids? Is it "cool "to have a character pack, or should I go plain? Where is the best place to buy one? My kid has an LLbean backpack and while I want to donate supplies, I cannot afford 2-3 more LLbean packs.
I think the topic of gratitude is a tricky one. Research shows that for most populations, having an attitude and worldview rooted in gratitude is something that contributes greatly to good mental health. I work in a homeless program and my (albeit anecdotal)observation over the years is that people who are more appreciative of things in general are happier. So, I try to support gratitude in my clients without making it a requirement of getting services. Also, for better or worse, thanking people helps reinforce people's generosity and leads to future giving. I am always happy to pass along thank you notes from clients to those who do donations and write lots of thank you notes myself. It is a tricky area for me because I do think that poor people have an unfair burden to dance for various help and services lest they be judged poorly and I also try not to reinforce that.
The attitude that many people have that people should be "worthy" of help infuriates me. When I get referrals that include commentary about what a nice person someone is, I get twitchy. "He's such a pleasant man. He's so happy. you wouldn't even know he is homeless" was written in a somewhat recent one asking to prioritize someone for the program. Clients internalize this too. "I know you already know I'm a good person or you wouldn't be helping me." Nope, I help plenty of assholes too. Last year at Christmas time I had someone call me and SCREAM at me over the phone and then hang up on me because he didn't get as much donated to him from a holiday giving tree as someone else he knows did. I don't even organize the tree. "I want my giftcard. If you don't get me my f-ing gift card then you can forget about me f-ing meeting with you." The person then told someone else that I told him that he couldn't have an extra gift card because he would spend it on cigarettes, which was nothing I said or would ever say. Now I don't expect gratitude, but that whole thing upset me initially. Then I thought rationally about it and realized that he was probably pretty desperate for money for food and chronic financial stress makes people behave in ways they probably ordinarily would not. Regardless, I am still working my butt off for this client on a weekly or more basis because he needs the help.
As for the video in the OP, it definitely seems that the quote was taken a bit out of context. I agree that she is speaking to the fact that she feels that her former source of financial support was taken away, in her opinion unfairly. At this point she is right. Someone does need to help pay for those children and I see that as a statement of fact.