It's just part of the over parenting/protection of this generation of parents. Sure things happen but if it's a true emergency I'm sure the sitter is aware of where the parents are. Not long ago parents would leave trier kids with sitters completely unplugged. Needing to be reached 24/7 is a new thing.
When I used to babysit regularly (15-20 years ago), parents were rarely really out of touch in case of emergency. They would often leave details of where they would be as well as a back-up number (sister, parents, etc.). Now, they probably don't do that since they have their cell phones. If I went to a wedding not expecting to have to surrender my phone, I wouldn't think to give my sitter the name of the venue, contact number, etc.
Send them a quick text before you shut down your phone .
Reasonably, sure, but not guaranteed. That's why they're called emergencies. They're not expected.
It's just part of the over parenting/protection of this generation of parents. Sure things happen but if it's a true emergency I'm sure the sitter is aware of where the parents are. Not long ago parents would leave their kids with sitters completely unplugged. Needing to be reached 24/7 is a new thing.
Yes, and 20 years ago parents didn't force their kids to wear seat belts. Things change as technology adapts. I'm going to operate under the assumption that my son will be absolutely fine with a sitter, but nobody is going to force me to turn in my way for the sitter to contact me if, God forbid, something did go wrong. Yes, my sitter probably knows I'm at a wedding, but I don't bother to spell out where I'm going and how to contact me BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAVE MY PHONE.
As a photographer, I would appreciate this. I don't shoot weddings but I know it's a big gripe for other photographers who have folks run in front of them with their smart phone to grab a picture and often times making them miss a sweet moment. As a parent I see it differently. I would turn my phone on silent and only use it if absolutely necessary.
I contend a good photographer can work around these obstacles. Listen, my photos are always going to be better than Aunt Mary's. But does that mean I really have the right to restrict Aunt Mary from capturing these memories in her own way? So long as she is not standing directly in front of me, I don't care.
Reasonably, sure, but not guaranteed. That's why they're called emergencies. They're not expected.
It's just part of the over parenting/protection of this generation of parents. Sure things happen but if it's a true emergency I'm sure the sitter is aware of where the parents are. Not long ago parents would leave their kids with sitters completely unplugged. Needing to be reached 24/7 is a new thing.
Parents would leave their sitters with a bunch of emergency contacts. I'm not understanding why it's a bad thing to be available IN CASE of an emergency? How is that over parenting?
It's just part of the over parenting/protection of this generation of parents. Sure things happen but if it's a true emergency I'm sure the sitter is aware of where the parents are. Not long ago parents would leave their kids with sitters completely unplugged. Needing to be reached 24/7 is a new thing.
Yes, and 20 years ago parents didn't force their kids to wear seat belts. Things change as technology adapts. I'm going to operate under the assumption that my son will be absolutely fine with a sitter, but nobody is going to force me to turn in my way for the sitter to contact me if, God forbid, something did go wrong. Yes, my sitter probably knows I'm at a wedding, but I don't bother to spell out where I'm going and how to contact me BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAVE MY PHONE.
Oh well we can agree to disagree. I turn off my cell phone when I'm out to dinner etc because I like to be unplugged every once in a while.
Yes, and 20 years ago parents didn't force their kids to wear seat belts. Things change as technology adapts. I'm going to operate under the assumption that my son will be absolutely fine with a sitter, but nobody is going to force me to turn in my way for the sitter to contact me if, God forbid, something did go wrong. Yes, my sitter probably knows I'm at a wedding, but I don't bother to spell out where I'm going and how to contact me BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAVE MY PHONE.
Oh well we can agree to disagree. I turn off my cell phone when I'm out to dinner etc because I like to be unplugged every once in a while.
Good for you. I leave mine in my purse and check it periodically to make sure I haven't missed a call. It's possible to have a functioning phone in your purse and not be facebooking through dinner.
As a photographer, I would appreciate this. I don't shoot weddings but I know it's a big gripe for other photographers who have folks run in front of them with their smart phone to grab a picture and often times making them miss a sweet moment. As a parent I see it differently. I would turn my phone on silent and only use it if absolutely necessary.
I contend a good photographer can work around these obstacles. Listen, my photos are always going to be better than Aunt Mary's. But does that mean I really have the right to restrict Aunt Mary from capturing these memories in her own way? So long as she is not standing directly in front of me, I don't care.
Except Aunt Mary probably is standing in front of you, with her arms in the air as she tries to figure out how to take the picture with her phone, realizes that it's blurry, and takes 10 more.
Oh well we can agree to disagree. I turn off my cell phone when I'm out to dinner etc because I like to be unplugged every once in a while.
Good for you. I leave mine in my purse and check it periodically to make sure I haven't missed a call. It's possible to have a functioning phone in your purse and not be facebooking through dinner.
Again we can agree to disagree. I don't see the big deal complying with shutting down a phone every once in a while. In fact ever since DD got her own phone I'm liking the idea more and more.
I don't have kids, and I'm still not handing my phone over to be put in a pile with a bunch of other people's phones at an event. If the couple wanted you to turn in your purse or wallet because it was a dry wedding and the bride wanted to prevent people from leaving to go buy a drink at the bar across the street, would anybody be comfortable with that?
For me, it has nothing to do with being "glued" to my phone and everything to do with wanting MY shit where *I* can keep an eye on it.
I think it's entirely possible that people just don't understand how often they "check" their phones, and how distracting that is when it's multiplied by however many guests there are.
Yes, and 20 years ago parents didn't force their kids to wear seat belts. Things change as technology adapts. I'm going to operate under the assumption that my son will be absolutely fine with a sitter, but nobody is going to force me to turn in my way for the sitter to contact me if, God forbid, something did go wrong. Yes, my sitter probably knows I'm at a wedding, but I don't bother to spell out where I'm going and how to contact me BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAVE MY PHONE.
Oh well we can agree to disagree. I turn off my cell phone when I'm out to dinner etc because I like to be unplugged every once in a while.
As a photographer, I would appreciate this. I don't shoot weddings but I know it's a big gripe for other photographers who have folks run in front of them with their smart phone to grab a picture and often times making them miss a sweet moment. As a parent I see it differently. I would turn my phone on silent and only use it if absolutely necessary.
I contend a good photographer can work around these obstacles. Listen, my photos are always going to be better than Aunt Mary's. But does that mean I really have the right to restrict Aunt Mary from capturing these memories in her own way? So long as she is not standing directly in front of me, I don't care.
I still have some resentment that Aunt Mary was so obsessed with taking pictures at our wedding that while we did family shots, she stood next to the photographer and in most of the pro shots half of the people are looking straight at the pro and half are looking to the side, at Aunt Mary. This has nothing to do with the cell phone thing, though. It just pisses me off.
I contend a good photographer can work around these obstacles. Listen, my photos are always going to be better than Aunt Mary's. But does that mean I really have the right to restrict Aunt Mary from capturing these memories in her own way? So long as she is not standing directly in front of me, I don't care.
Except Aunt Mary probably is standing in front of you, with her arms in the air as she tries to figure out how to take the picture with her phone, realizes that it's blurry, and takes 10 more.
Well, then I need to move. It's honestly not that hard. LOL.
Post by irishbride2 on Oct 21, 2014 11:22:39 GMT -5
I would not be comfortable with it. I would want our babysitter to be able to contact us. I would have my phone on vibrate, and I would be fine not taking pictures if they ask me not to (i've had that happen) but I'm not giving up my phone if my kids are with a sitter.
Post by irishbride2 on Oct 21, 2014 11:26:13 GMT -5
I will add that I rarely take my phone to weddings anymore. but H does and he keeps it in his pocket on vibrate. So that is how a sitter could get ahold of us.
Its fine to request no pictures. But taking phones is highly condescending and patronizing, even if safety isn't a concern.
Except Aunt Mary probably is standing in front of you, with her arms in the air as she tries to figure out how to take the picture with her phone, realizes that it's blurry, and takes 10 more.
Well, then I need to move. It's honestly not that hard. LOL.
Except Aunt Mary probably is standing in front of you, with her arms in the air as she tries to figure out how to take the picture with her phone, realizes that it's blurry, and takes 10 more.
Well, then I need to move. It's honestly not that hard. LOL.
I wonder if our photographers were excellent at not letting people get in their way OR if our guests just didn't take pictures. We don't have a single shot with anyone leaning into the aisle to take pictures and, honestly, I'm not sure there are any photos at all with someone in them taking a picture.
I've never taken a picture at a wedding ceremony - maybe I'm the odd one.
I'm glad you agree! I shoot weddings, so I have a little experience here
I just don't know what you do to avoid this:
70-200 lens, zoom in, or crop in post.
I will literally go and stand next to someone in the aisle. They usually get so uncomfortable they move and/or get embarrassed when I pull out my big lenses, LOL.
Well, then I need to move. It's honestly not that hard. LOL.
I wonder if our photographers were excellent at not letting people get in their way OR if our guests just didn't take pictures. We don't have a single shot with anyone leaning into the aisle to take pictures and, honestly, I'm not sure there are any photos at all with someone in them taking a picture.
I never noticed this before! I'm not denying that it happens at weddings I've gone to, I guess I'm just oblivious to it. I also never take ceremony pictures, or pictures with the bride and groom unless me or H are with them, lol. I'm too interested in taking photos of me and H and us with family/friends. I'm REALLY not trying to get the very first picture of the bride and groom on Facebook, I promise.
I wonder if our photographers were excellent at not letting people get in their way OR if our guests just didn't take pictures. We don't have a single shot with anyone leaning into the aisle to take pictures and, honestly, I'm not sure there are any photos at all with someone in them taking a picture.
I never noticed this before! I'm not denying that it happens at weddings I've gone to, I guess I'm just oblivious to it. I also never take ceremony pictures, or pictures with the bride and groom unless me or H are with them, lol. I'm too interested in taking photos of me and H and us with family/friends. I'm REALLY not trying to get the very first picture of the bride and groom on Facebook, I promise.
Yeah, people have definitely posted a few ceremony shots from our wedding but I never even noticed them. Maybe it's because no one was a big enough jerk to stand out in the aisle to do it. No offense to my dearest friends and family, but even if I were to take a picture of your wedding, I'm not pushing people and standing in the aisle to do it, because... what the hell am I going to do with a picture of YOUR wedding? Frame it?
I never noticed this before! I'm not denying that it happens at weddings I've gone to, I guess I'm just oblivious to it. I also never take ceremony pictures, or pictures with the bride and groom unless me or H are with them, lol. I'm too interested in taking photos of me and H and us with family/friends. I'm REALLY not trying to get the very first picture of the bride and groom on Facebook, I promise.
Yeah, people have definitely posted a few ceremony shots from our wedding but I never even noticed them. Maybe it's because no one was a big enough jerk to stand out in the aisle to do it. No offense to my dearest friends and family, but even if I were to take a picture of your wedding, I'm not pushing people and standing in the aisle to do it, because... what the hell am I going to do with a picture of YOUR wedding? Frame it?
I know! Weird. Plus, they probably already have a, ya know, professional to take care of it.
I think it's totally fine to announce no pictures before the ceremony. I also would not give up my phone. I'd probably lie and say that I don't have it then go to the bathroom and triple check that it was on silent, lol.
I will literally go and stand next to someone in the aisle. They usually get so uncomfortable they move and/or get embarrassed when I pull out my big lenses, LOL.
This particular one the photog wrote this:
We are only allowed to be outside of the sanctuary in the door opening where the center aisle is and in the balcony. We are not permitted to move during the service.
My second shooter thankfully was in the balcony but it didn’t make these guests go away but luckily he was able to get images of the service where you could SEE the bride and groom.
I argued, begged and pleaded for the church lady guarding me to at least allow me to go into the side aisle so I could get a clear shot of my clients when these guests jumped into the aisle but I was not allowed. Instead I just had to take what I could get and cry a bit on the inside.
All I'm saying is that in some situations it's not as breezy as you make it sound.