"This prick is asking for someone here to bring him to task Somebody give me some dirt on this vacuous mass so we can at last unmask him I'll pull the trigger on it, someone load the gun and cock it While we were all watching, he got Washington in his pocket."
Post by tacosforlife on Oct 22, 2014 16:02:06 GMT -5
But in all seriousness, I am glad you are transferring.
It is preschool. It's so not worth butting heads with this teacher all year. And all the behaviors discussed here sound like normal little kid behavior to me. (I don't have kids, but I do have cats. And we all know that cats = toddlers.) I mean, if he were throwing tantrums or hitting kids or whatnot, then I would think that "behavior management" could come into play. But being easily distracted and not sitting still is called being three goddamned years old.
I am LOLing at the first part. What teacher doesn't know how to write a few good things and a few things to work on? Actually, what person doesn't know how to do that when offering a review of something? I mean, it just seems like common sense that you say - "I notice these things are positive and we need to work on these things." Isn't that the point of these types of communications between parents and teachers? To give you a picture of what the teacher sees in the classroom - a well rounded picture??? She seems special. Like really, really special.
Post by miniroller on Oct 22, 2014 16:10:55 GMT -5
I can't believe you held your tongue as well as you did, by not saying, "Do you know what the fuck the word objective MEANS?!?!" Well done, mama; on all accounts, very well done.
Post by Velar Fricative on Oct 22, 2014 16:13:40 GMT -5
(ETA: The laughing part of this gif was my reaction of you laying the smackdown on this teacher. I'm not happy that you have to deal with this and switch schools.)
Post by irishbride2 on Oct 22, 2014 16:16:44 GMT -5
I obviously wasn't there, so I don't know how it went down. But from your account it sounds like you went in guns blazing and she really didn't stand a chance.
Did she handle it well? Heck no. But I would have been quite taken aback if I were attacked that way. I would have (and have) immediately ended the conference and suggest (politely) we need an admin to join us. If a parent starts the conference ready for a fight, the teacher stands no chance.
If that isn't how it went down, then I understand. But it sounds like she was backed into a corner and instead of ended the conference, which she should of done, she handled it terribly.
**Even when teaching 8th through 12th grade, I would never directly answer the question "do you think my kid is smart" so I imagine a 3 year old teacher would not, either.
eta: I fully agree her expectations for 3 year old behavior are completely off. I would not want her teaching my kid, either.
She did not mean for the monthly report to sound so negative, but she couldn't think of anything positive to say even when I pressed her on three separate occasions.
I asked her if she thought K was smart. She said they don't assess "things like that" for three year olds. I said, Have you not noticed that he can count, recognizes shapes, has the beginnings of one to one correspondence, knows all of his colors, likes to built, enjoys drawing and draws at a level that exceeds developmental milestones? She said, If you know those things, why do you need me to tell them to you. Do you just want to hear it from another adult? Couldn't help it,. I said, No, I need to hear it from you so that I know you are professionally capable. Do you see behavior management as the sole focus of your curriculum? She said, Yes. Socialization is the most important part of preschool. I said, Do you think of socialization and behavior management as synonyms?
She said, Don't you want Him to be able to get along with his peers?
And it broke down from there.
Yes I mentioned pinterest.
Yes, I told her she was not competent to make the diagnoses she made. She claimed she wasn't trying to make any. I asked her if she was aware of all of the loaded terminology contained in her report. She said she was just trying to give me an objective picture. I asked her if she understood that her report was actually subjective because it contained her first person impressions without any reference to an objective standard. She said she compares him objectively to his peers. I asked her if she understood that that was a subjective exercise because it involved her impressions. No. She didn't understand the distinction I was trying to draw.
Other highlights. I should keep him at home for another year so he has time to mature. I asked if she was suggesting I redshirt for preschool. She said she did for her son. I asked if she was aware that data suggests that is not good for emotional development issues, but that if K demonstrates a true delay of Amy kind, I will work with his pediatrician to determine whether he should delay starting first grade. We are transferring.
My eyes bugged out of my head as I continued to read this!
That "teacher" needs to be reeducated on child development or she needs to find another job. My children started preschool at 3 years old and the behaviors this employee pointed out are well with in normal behavior expectations of children that age.
Children mature in preschool. They do not need to be "more mature" to attend preschool. What are her qualifications to teach preschool? Does she have the education and credentials to be a preschool teacher (i.e. a bachelors degree in early childhood education and development or is she certified in a teaching pedagogy like Montessori?) She sounds completely incompetent and personally I would meet with the director and at the same time actively look for a preschool with better qualified teachers.