Post by jillboston on Jan 28, 2015 14:03:15 GMT -5
My nephew's wife used to absolutely LOVE sweets - it was her one indulgence - she is very fit and thin. She had a shitty high stress job with a nightmare commute and was tired all the time. Now she's gluten free bc she thought that was the source of tiredness. Sigh. I feel for her. I'm hoping when this fad is over she can go back to enjoying the foods she used to love. I question her diet because the "professional" she consults on this also told her not to eat canned tomatoes because they use the worst, oldest rotting tomatoes... So yeah - I think it is 99% bullshit.
OMG, I loooove lumpia. I had to miss a neighbor's kid's birthday party right before Christmas, but H took the kids. He texted me the amazing spread and I was so jealous. The hostess apologized to H for not having any American food, and he was like "are you kidding me, Asian food is the best!" Then she sent him home with a gallon zip lock filled with lumpia for me. I ate the whole bag that night, LOL.
I brought home more lumpia and pancit than I care to admit. My friend always has an excellent spread and intentionally makes enough so everyone goes home with leftovers.
My next door neighbor is also Asian, and can I say that they have the best spread ever? For their parties, they have a dessert table with at least 6 different flavored cupcakes PLUS several other desserts (cake pops, brownies, rice crispy treats, cookies, trifles, etc.). Their dining room table, plus kitchen is filled with all sorts of amazing Asian foods (I have no idea what 90% are called). Then, they send us over loads of take out containers filled with their giant buffet of delicious foods. We get so excited whenever they have a party. They must cook for the entire week to get ready for a party.
Yeah, this Mom is nutso. My ds has allergies and I am still floored that there are people who make comments about me bringing his food to parties but it is normally older people. I do wish people would not make me explain but hey I get it.
ETA: I mean when I am discretely passing him his cupcake, you don't have to ask about it. I don't feel like I should always have to say he has allergies.
I understand you don't want to have to explain but it's patently rude to show up and say you can't eat the food the host is serving without explanation. I guess there's a question as to why that's the status quo but as long as it is, an explanation is the polite thing to do.
I am not talking about explaining to the host and I am not talking about high tea. Most parties he attends are at X locations and there is the round f cake being passed out. He declines and there is always someone who is like shocked that he can't just have cake. Meanwhile he is politely taking his cupcake out. It is not a situation where I did not inform the host because I do let them know.
Post by truckentruck on Jan 28, 2015 14:06:26 GMT -5
As a parent of a 2 year old with biopsy confirmed celiac, I hate that what is "medicine" to my daughter and necessary for her health is co-opted by people who want to be fancy and fussy. I would give my right arm to just let my daughter have a normal cupcake and slice of pizza in social situations without having to ask questions or explain her needs. I don't for a minute mind doing whatever it takes to make my child healthy, but I hate every single second of talking about "gluten" because of the way people like this have affected what the general public thinks about my daughter's diet. It is a blessing and a curse to have a disease that can be controlled by diet alone.
I DO have a problem that she brought the cupcake!! That was a total bitch move and just poor manners. Her kid has no medical issue. Otherwise she would have said.
Like I said, I don't bring my full fat, real butter, fluffy frosting up to here deliciousness cupcakes (that I take great pride in making to perfection) to let my DD nosh on while all the other kids are "enjoying" the carrot, raisin, whole wheat, low sugar, no egg, "cupcake."
I don't care what you eat. I don't care what your kids eat. I have bigger things to worry about than the diet of other people. If you bring your own food to my party, whatever.
If you're a flaming asshole about any of it, that's when I'll care. Don't criticize my diet, lecture my food, or go on and on and on and on about your super special diet. I'll judge the hell out of you for that.
Am I reading this correctly? Mom only dropped off the cupcake but the rest of the food was ok to eat? Or did her child not eat at the party.
Her kid wasn't supposed to eat anything but the cupcake.Â
I would imagine that was because the cupcake was a "special treat" and she wanted her kid to participate in having a treat, too, but... pizza and whatever else they had is also a special treat!
Well that fucking sucks for the kid. At least pack other food she can eat too then if you're gonna be all high and mighty about the special diet.
What? Noooo. What kosher birthday cake did someone foist off on you? I spent a year eating kosher cake and desserts and they were damned tasty.
Was it during passover though? Because pretty much everything you are permitted to eat during passover tastes of ass save meat, ketchup, and tam tams.
It was at the birthday party of a friend of K's. The birthday boy was Jewish-ish, but he had cousins who were orthodox so mom had a specially made Kosher cake. I think it couldn't have eggs because it had butter or vice versa. Whatever the case it was exceedingly ridiculously overpoweringly sweet, which I assume was intended to hide whatever flavor the cake actually would have been. And the texture was so weird. It was like they couldn't figure out how to make it moist so had soaked it in vegetable oil.
Oh, you can make moist vegan cake. I mean, compared side-by-side with an awesome regular cake it probably isn't going to be quite as good, but you can use applesauce, bananas, flax eggs, earth balance, etc as non-egg or non-dairy substitutes.
My friend used to try to be uber healthy with her kid. So for his third birthday she made him a beet cake and special chicken nuggets with all kinds of healthy stuff hidden in them. None of the kids would eat any of it. All of us adults were dying - it was just so funny how fast a the kids said "no thank you" after a bite of cake and left the table. She at least laughed about it too.
Oh, you can make moist vegan cake. I mean, compared side-by-side with an awesome regular cake it probably isn't going to be quite as good, but you can use applesauce, bananas, flax eggs, earth balance, etc as non-egg or non-dairy substitutes.
I assume these are "eggs" in the same way soy is "milk," yes?
I mean, we are actually pretty careful about what my DD eats and we skew crunchy but I draw the line at b day parties. I remember how aghast all my friends were when I made REAL cupcakes for her first birthday. And they were DELICIOUS. Even my friends thought so.
Oh, you can make moist vegan cake. I mean, compared side-by-side with an awesome regular cake it probably isn't going to be quite as good, but you can use applesauce, bananas, flax eggs, earth balance, etc as non-egg or non-dairy substitutes.
I assume these are "eggs" in the same way soy is "milk," yes?
Yes - it's from flax seeds, but not from its ovaries. That still didn't stop me from trying to google a flax chicken b/c that would be so funny to see a chicken shaped flax-seed object laying an "egg."
What? Noooo. What kosher birthday cake did someone foist off on you? I spent a year eating kosher cake and desserts and they were damned tasty.
Was it during passover though? Because pretty much everything you are permitted to eat during passover tastes of ass save meat, ketchup, and tam tams.
It was at the birthday party of a friend of K's. The birthday boy was Jewish-ish, but he had cousins who were orthodox so mom had a specially made Kosher cake. I think it couldn't have eggs because it had butter or vice versa. Whatever the case it was exceedingly ridiculously overpoweringly sweet, which I assume was intended to hide whatever flavor the cake actually would have been. And the texture was so weird. It was like they couldn't figure out how to make it moist so had soaked it in vegetable oil.
You're supposed to be able to eat eggs with meat or dairy. But you know, the old adage about asking a Jew lol
My friend used to try to be uber healthy with her kid. So for his third birthday she made him a beet cake and special chicken nuggets with all kinds of healthy stuff hidden in them. None of the kids would eat any of it. All of us adults were dying - it was just so funny how fast a the kids said "no thank you" after a bite of cake and left the table. She at least laughed about it too.
I have not had a single bad experience with DS' milk allergy. Not a one. People have gone above and beyond to be respectful and helpful.
Its all about delivery. Yes there are jerks out there who will be jerks no matter what. But it helps a lot when you explain the situation, ask nicely and go out of your way to make it as easy on the host as possible.
There is no way you can politely say "your food isn't good enough for my daughter." There is no delivery deficiency here.
In this case you just have to own the fact that you are an asshole. Not go whining to your blog followers about the meanies who just dont understand how special your palette is.
No I'm saying if it was a legitimate medical issue as she claims, then delivery makes all the difference 99% of the time.
Post by penguingrrl on Jan 28, 2015 14:43:03 GMT -5
I will add that my kids have come home whining how they're "the only ones" who "have" to only bring fruits or veggies for snack at school (imagine that in the whiniest voice ever). Everyone else gets chips and cookies. I'm already that mom because I'm stricter with food than most. We limit sugar and try to keep to fairly whole foods for our day-to-day, drinks are milk or water. Because of that I see absolutely no issue with sending them to a birthday party and letting them have their fill of cake, pizza and juice.
We went to a party where they served GF and SUGAR free "cupcakes" with some kind of avocado "frosting." My kid was three at the time, took one bite and couldn't swallow because it was so nasty. Poor kid didn't know what to do and started crying.
Other kids told he mom," this is not cake!" I almost died laughing.
I'm on this train. I read a blog post the other day by a blogger who eats paleo or somesuch (which is fine!) but it was all about "prepping her kids" for events outside the home and "preparing them" for how to handle unacceptable foods and I just couldn't resist rolling my eyes thinking of some kid eyeing the side dish of rice like it was a bomb because his mom convinced him that eating off plan would kill him. I have no issue with people eating a certain way at home- you do you- but if you have to give your child a pep talk every time you leave the house to keep him from eating food that is not, in fact, problematic for him, then you are setting your kid up for a major rebellion someday and possibly giving them a lifetime of disordered eating. Aside from actual legitimate health issues, eating a pretzel at a party or even, gasp, something with sugar, is not going to destroy a kid. And believe me, I'm concerned about too much sugar. I really really am and my nutty two year old who refuses to eat anything except for milk, carbs, and constantly asks for sweets is giving me an ulcer, but I just can't get on board with putting my child in some kind of nutritional straight jacket 24/7 when we're out in the real world. Aside from poison, an occasion off-plan meal isn't ruining anyone.
I view it the same way I do religion. Of course in my house, I practice as I like and within reason, expect my kids to do the same. But if they spend the night at a friend's house and they all go to church in the morning, that's cool with me. I also don't expect them to pray at a birthday party when no one else is praying or whatever.
I feel that choices like that should be shown by example but give kids room to research and try other things for themselves. If they grow up and decide vegetarian or Methodism or whatever is good for them, great. But I don't want it to be because I gave them bad information, guilted, or brow beat them into believing what I do.
I actually hate going to kid bday parties where the parents serve sawdust with cream cheese aka "healthy cupcakes" because I'm a baked good snob. But it would be so fucking RUDE of me to bring my own REAL cupcake to the party.
DD's school has a particularly high number of kids who are on special diets. For her recent Bday I served only gluten free/soy free/dairy free/nut free foods since more than half of the 28 kids invited had at least one of those...allergies (most are gluten/dairy free). It made it a lot more work for me and honestly the cupcakes were kind of crap but I didn't really think I had an option.
What kind of pissed me off though was when one of the families still refused to let their kids have any of the food because of possible food dyes. I used regular marshmallows in the rice krispy treats because there is only so much that I can compromise on.
I know I sound like I'm judging the parents for putting their kids on these diets, but really I'm just complaining because of how it affects me ;-).
Oh, you can make moist vegan cake. I mean, compared side-by-side with an awesome regular cake it probably isn't going to be quite as good, but you can use applesauce, bananas, flax eggs, earth balance, etc as non-egg or non-dairy substitutes.
I assume these are "eggs" in the same way soy is "milk," yes?
Yup. Ground flax mixed with water in a certain proportion, I think. I haven't personally done it.
We went to a party where they served GF and SUGAR free "cupcakes" with some kind of avocado "frosting." My kid was three at the time, took one bite and couldn't swallow because it was so nasty. Poor kid didn't know what to do and started crying.
Other kids told he mom," this is not cake!" I almost died laughing.
Now that's fucking hilarious!
I guess I don't understand why you wouldn't skip cake then. Serve fruit and whipped cream or something. That would be tasty as fuck.
Post by hopecounts on Jan 28, 2015 14:52:29 GMT -5
I'm guessing delivery was the problem here not the cupcake. I have dealt with this as the hostess, one friend is vegan and is raising her son vegan, another friend's little boy is allergic to eggs. When they RSVP's to her first bday they asked about bringing safe/OK cupcakes for their kiddos, I was fine with it because they weren't all 'speshul snowflake' about it just 'hey do you mind if I bring a cupcake that is ok for my kid to the party?' NBD. I also try to have snacks that are OK for both of them at the party but again they are both cool about it so I don't mind.
I would agree with this to an extent. I mean, I'm planning on doing a Whole30 in a week or so, as a challenge to myself, but it's not something I'm talking to my kids about or making a big deal about. As in my previous post, I think constantly talking to your kid about the evils of certain kinds of foods is like daring them to have disordered eating. I mean, my 4 year old knows that sugar is something that we eat in moderation and that we try to eat a good balance of different kinds of foods, but that's it. I don't think it's a good idea to ascribe moral judgements to food (good foods vs. bad foods, etc.) because the message that sinks in to kids can be distorted.
When mine were smaller, we called them fun foods. They're fun to eat but they don't actually do anything for you. Kind of how some movies are fun and some shows teach you stuff. And some foods/movies do both lol.
I actually hate going to kid bday parties where the parents serve sawdust with cream cheese aka "healthy cupcakes" because I'm a baked good snob. But it would be so fucking RUDE of me to bring my own REAL cupcake to the party.
DD's school has a particularly high number of kids who are on special diets. For her recent Bday I served only gluten free/soy free/dairy free/nut free foods since more than half of the 28 kids invited had at least one of those...allergies (most are gluten/dairy free). It made it a lot more work for me and honestly the cupcakes were kind of crap but I didn't really think I had an option.
What kind of pissed me off though was when one of the families still refused to let their kids have any of the food because of possible food dyes. I used regular marshmallows in the rice krispy treats because there is only so much that I can compromise on.
I know I sound like I'm judging the parents for putting their kids on these diets, but really I'm just complaining because of how it affects me ;-).
I will add that my kids have come home whining how they're "the only ones" who "have" to only bring fruits or veggies for snack at school (imagine that in the whiniest voice ever). Everyone else gets chips and cookies. I'm already that mom because I'm stricter with food than most.
They all say that! Kids are punks. Lol. DD1 has said this to me often. I know her classmates parents, and she is telling me lies. I'm sure there are kids that bring crap, but "the only ones" is classic kid BS
So first off, the woman in the article is obnoxious and sanctimommy. I have no problems with special diets. I really don't have a problem making accommodations. I do have a problem with people getting all snooty because they think THEIR was is better. It's not. Get over it.
Second, Kosher food is not gross in general. Kosher for Passover convenience food tastes like asshole. Ashkenazi cuisine is pretty much beige and boring. Take out butter or meat and it's just so much what's-the-point. My family is Sephardic. Our food is 1000% better. Also I don't know why on earth a Kosher cake would be so sweet. I have made plenty of cakes that are Kosher for eating with meat (you replace butter with oil.) They taste delicious. Eggs are parve. They're Kosher neutral. You can eat them with anything.