I need a concrete example to determine whether this is flameful or not.
Mostly talking about examples like a med taken during pregnancy, or something commonly administered to infants that is then found to potentially have negative effects. The Zofran lawsuit post reminded me (I didn't actually open it, but I can imagine responses going that way). I think some people just take scientific findings too personally. No one is judging someone who makes a choice that is generally accepted as safe, but is later found to possibly have a bad outcome for some (like @deej said), but I've seen people on this board get so defensive over this stuff.
For example, I had horrible reflux while pregnant. I took a Zantac daily to combat it. That med is/was generally accepted as safe, but I also knew it hadn't been around that long, so there certainly could be long-term health affects from it. I hope not, but if something comes out finding that there are, I will be glad to have that information. I did the best I could, you know? But I wouldn't scoff at the research just because my kid, at 2.5, seems healthy. Our bodies are complex. H's grandfather worked in a shipyard as a very young man and was diagnosed with pulmonary fibrosis sixty years later. It was almost certainly caused by his exposure to those chemicals decades earlier.
It has also come up in Baby Foot discussions - well I am nursing and use it / used while I was pregnant and my baby is fine!
ETA though now I am thinking about it and I'm sure many kids do get spanked over stuff like this. Ugh.
But are their parents really picking up this kind of book if this is their default method?
I know people who spank and they will generally defend the merits of spanking if it comes up. I'm the crazy hippie/liberal who will "regret" not teaching my kids more discipline, in their eyes.
IDK I think there are a lot of people who spank because they were spanked and "turned out fine." If the example can reach a person like that who is picking up the book because they are at the end of their rope with their toddler, then I am all for it. The rest of us can just read past and roll our eyes or feel smugly satisfied about how great we are at parenting.
You are right though that a lot of people who spank will defend it, irrationally, to the death. Self-justification is a powerful thing.
It was dumb because the dad resorted to spanking. I just feel like most examples end "and then the mom or dad spanked out of frustration". I might be explaining this poorly - I think the book is offering good tips but the examples are like "should Garry have murdered his wife or asked her to change the toilet paper roll when it runs out?" Hmm, I wonder!
There was one where a toddler says he went to the drive-in yesterday but it was really two weeks ago and so he got spanked for lying Those kinds of examples were really distracting.
Post by turtlegirl on Mar 16, 2015 13:31:29 GMT -5
My SIL is due with her first in about 2 weeks. She's using a local birthing center and I really truly hope everything for her birth goes as planned. I've been nothing but super supportive of her in words and actions. I passed along my birth ball, helped her organize the nursery/her house to make sure she has all the new baby/post parturm care supplies easily accessible, etc.
But my confession is that I internally cringe whenever she talks about it or the subject comes up. Having an all natural birth and going home 3-4 hours after birth sounds like absolute hell for me. Give me the epi and let me stay in the hospital for at least 2 days please!
catbus your confession reminds me of all the zofran class action lawsuit commercials that are airing lately. Given how many people I know have taken it with no issues, I can say I was surprised these commercials are so prevalent in my area.
I told DH I really wanted to write a nasty letter to our old pediatrician, but won't since we switched. She sent us into a huge tizzy over language and how E was behind at 15m. Now E won't stop talking and we have gotten to the narration of everything stage. "Mama water, mama dinner, dada water, dada dinner, dada dip, E water, E milk, E dip, E dinner."
after a terrible first night of the girls room sharing with wakeups for both, they got up for the day at 5:30. I turned on the tv and went back to bed. By the time dd2 smacked me in the head with a book a little while later she'd already stolen and eaten a half of a tub of raisins. The big one.
Oh no! B had like 100 raisins on Saturday and we are still dealing with the repercussions.
after a terrible first night of the girls room sharing with wakeups for both, they got up for the day at 5:30. I turned on the tv and went back to bed. By the time dd2 smacked me in the head with a book a little while later she'd already stolen and eaten a half of a tub of raisins. The big one.
Oh no! B had like 100 raisins on Saturday and we are still dealing with the repercussions.
Yep, they're already making their way out. And dd1 is sick. Great day!
I called a few months ago and asked when to start bringing DD to the dentist. They said to bring her to a cleaning for me when she was around 2 and they'd just let her watch.
She was crying (we had a rough trip to the ER and pedi a few weeks ago that involved catheters and an IV) so they told me I had to reschedule.
While I appreciate that they don't want to make her afraid of the dentist, and I know a crying 2-year old is a PITA, it would be nice if they had told me that when they scheduled my appointment. Because now I'm 38 weeks pregnant and need to fit in another dentist appointment in the next week. I would have either done this a month ago, or skipped bringing her altogether for now.
It ended with her climbing out of her carseat before I could get her strapped in, and me wrestling her out the other door of the car and holding her down kicking and writhing while she screamed at the top of her lungs.
We picked up McDonald's for lunch on the way home. I am in no mood for anything else at this point.
I guess mine is that I sometimes pretend that I don't notice when DD picks her nose or puts her hand in her pants or eats food off the floor or any of her other gross habits. Most of the time (which is A LOT) I do correct her, but it gets tiresome.
I can't wait until B learns to pick his nose because sometimes he has the biggest boogers just sitting there and he won't let me take care of it for him most of the time.
I also think I will 100% regret this one he learns to pick his nose because ewww lol.
Haha! I never thought of it that way.
She still never doesn't let me do it. Or wipe her hands or face.
I had to hold back the snark in a post the other day about what to bring to the hospital for birth. Someone said something about her mom smuggling in wine, which was ok bc she was formula feeding. Someone else said to bring formula even if wanting to breastfeed because it may take a couple days for milk to come in.
Yes, I know my reaction to want to snark will get me flamed.
Why would you want to snark though? My hospital offered wine with dinner to all parents. Also I plan to BYO formula next time. I ff and it was a pain to have to keep asking for the little bottles ( DS ate like a truck driver though.)
I'm always amazed at the proud grandparents in these situations. I understand being supportive, but these grandparents act like this is the best thing ever.
One of the grandpas said, "I love the baby and I will do anything for him, but this should never have happened". That I understand. But being legitimately excited that your child now has a child? Nope.
See this would be my response. I once met a woman whose 14 year old had just become a father. She was in her mid 40s and a grandma. She just kept saying that she loved her son and grandchild very very much but it was a very sad sittuation.
Although I disagree that a teen pregnancy ruins lives forever. Every single girl I know who had a baby in HS with the exception of one is making more money than me right now. Most had very supportive families and became RNs, however a few did very well for themselves in Real Estate. I went to college and waited until I was 31 to have my son still don't make 50k a year. Yes it's sad that their lives have changed so dramatically forever, but they don't have to be ruined forever either.
Post by teatimefor2 on Mar 16, 2015 14:18:41 GMT -5
I'm going to bury this in here. My 91 year old Aunt is in the hospital. Her cancer is in remission, but she has dou.ble pneu.monia and just had a blo.od cl.ot go through her eye making her now blind in her left eye.
I love her and I feel for her daughter, my aunt and her family.
I'm praying, but I'm not sure what to pray for. A recovery or painless passing?
I do not believe that it is better to live at all costs, and my family knows this about me.
I feel horrible for these thoughts and so sad for my aunt. I love her and she is a lovely person, but given all her health issues, I don't know if her quality of life would justify the pain.
I called a few months ago and asked when to start bringing DD to the dentist. They said to bring her to a cleaning for me when she was around 2 and they'd just let her watch.
She was crying (we had a rough trip to the ER and pedi a few weeks ago that involved catheters and an IV) so they told me I had to reschedule.
While I appreciate that they don't want to make her afraid of the dentist, and I know a crying 2-year old is a PITA, it would be nice if they had told me that when they scheduled my appointment. Because now I'm 38 weeks pregnant and need to fit in another dentist appointment in the next week. I would have either done this a month ago, or skipped bringing her altogether for now.
It ended with her climbing out of her carseat before I could get her strapped in, and me wrestling her out the other door of the car and holding her down kicking and writhing while she screamed at the top of her lungs.
We picked up McDonald's for lunch on the way home. I am in no mood for anything else at this point.
I wouldn't bring her at all until she was closer to 3. I know dentists will tell you to do it sooner, but unless you have a family history of dental issues, in my experience, they don't really get it until they are 3 anyway.
I get irrationally upset at Triscuit ads that are all about "look at all the shit you can pile on this cracker!"
If I have steak in the house, it's not going on an effing cracker. And the fact that your main selling point for the cracker is the stuff you put on it is ridiculous. Fuck you, Triscuits.
I get irrationally upset at Triscuit ads that are all about "look at all the shit you can pile on this cracker!"
If I have steak in the house, it's not going on an effing cracker. And the fact that your main selling point for the cracker is the stuff you put on it is ridiculous. Fuck you, Triscuits.
As a fellow irrational anger sufferer I am just nodding my head in agreement even though I don't share this particular pet peeve. :Y:
I had to hold back the snark in a post the other day about what to bring to the hospital for birth. Someone said something about her mom smuggling in wine, which was ok bc she was formula feeding. Someone else said to bring formula even if wanting to breastfeed because it may take a couple days for milk to come in.
Yes, I know my reaction to want to snark will get me flamed.
Why would you want to snark though? My hospital offered wine with dinner to all parents. Also I plan to BYO formula next time. I ff and it was a pain to have to keep asking for the little bottles ( DS ate like a truck driver though.)
It was toward the person who said she could drink wine because she chose to FF (implication that it wouldn't have been ok if she was breastfeeding), and the advice to pack in formula if you plan to breastfeed is a bit questionable.
There was one where a toddler says he went to the drive-in yesterday but it was really two weeks ago and so he got spanked for lying Those kinds of examples were really distracting.
Yes! Wtf.
I know someone who spanked their child for wetting the bed at night while they were PTing. They've told this story to me proudly at least 3 times because It worked! Never wet the bed again! It breaks my heart every time.
Also, I made a $40+ order on next direct to get one shirt, which was then canceled and removed from the order because that size was sold out. So last night I made a new order with just the one shirt (in a bigger, not sold out, size) and paid $6 shipping for it.
Any chance you have the $20 off 50 code for new customers? Or need a referral? I'm about to place my first order
Do you still want a referral? If so, PM me your first name and email.
Why would you want to snark though? My hospital offered wine with dinner to all parents. Also I plan to BYO formula next time. I ff and it was a pain to have to keep asking for the little bottles ( DS ate like a truck driver though.)
It was toward the person who said she could drink wine because she chose to FF (implication that it wouldn't have been ok if she was breastfeeding), and the advice to pack in formula if you plan to breastfeed is a bit questionable.
Oooh yeah I guess. Everyone should drink! Equal opportunity booze!
I called a few months ago and asked when to start bringing DD to the dentist. They said to bring her to a cleaning for me when she was around 2 and they'd just let her watch.
She was crying (we had a rough trip to the ER and pedi a few weeks ago that involved catheters and an IV) so they told me I had to reschedule.
While I appreciate that they don't want to make her afraid of the dentist, and I know a crying 2-year old is a PITA, it would be nice if they had told me that when they scheduled my appointment. Because now I'm 38 weeks pregnant and need to fit in another dentist appointment in the next week. I would have either done this a month ago, or skipped bringing her altogether for now.
It ended with her climbing out of her carseat before I could get her strapped in, and me wrestling her out the other door of the car and holding her down kicking and writhing while she screamed at the top of her lungs.
We picked up McDonald's for lunch on the way home. I am in no mood for anything else at this point.
I wouldn't bring her at all until she was closer to 3. I know dentists will tell you to do it sooner, but unless you have a family history of dental issues, in my experience, they don't really get it until they are 3 anyway.
Agreed on 3. My dentist doesn't take them until 3, and I have found it to be a much simpler and easier experience at 3 unless you have concerns.
I know someone who spanked their child for wetting the bed at night while they were PTing. They've told this story to me proudly at least 3 times because It worked! Never wet the bed again! It breaks my heart every time.
I would have to stop myself form punching that person in the face. WHAT THE FUCK.
It was toward the person who said she could drink wine because she chose to FF (implication that it wouldn't have been ok if she was breastfeeding), and the advice to pack in formula if you plan to breastfeed is a bit questionable.
Oooh yeah I guess. Everyone should drink! Equal opportunity booze!
It's just another example of the myths surrounding breastfeeding. No need to make breastfeeding seem like it has a ton of rules! Also, it sucks that these myths persist, because it's why breastfeeding women get dirty looks and comments for drinking a beer while nursing, or even drinking coffee (yes, I got judged for both at least once!).
I wouldn't bring her at all until she was closer to 3. I know dentists will tell you to do it sooner, but unless you have a family history of dental issues, in my experience, they don't really get it until they are 3 anyway.
Agreed on 3. My dentist doesn't take them until 3, and I have found it to be a much simpler and easier experience at 3 unless you have concerns.
My dentist said between 1.5 and 2 years is great, but I'd be pissed if they told me to bring him along for my appointment and then refused to see me.
E went around 18 months and will go again next month, at 30 months.