The initial wave of results for the medical study I am in was published this morning. It tracks if transplant recipients develop antibodies from the vaccines.
Only 76 of 436 participants showed antibodies after the first vaccine. I am one of the 76 people so I am happy. Although I am stoked, it's not the best news for the transplant world. I am curious what the second vaccine results will show.
it's so cool you were in this study!
This is really promising: "Those who received mRNA-1273 were more likely to develop an antibody response than those receiving BNT162b2 (69% vs 31%, respectively; adjusted IRR, 2.15 [95% CI, 1.29-3.57], P = .003)."
Hopefully it's just a dosing issue and either switching to Moderna for these populations or offering a 3rd booster shot of Pfizer could work (assuming transplant recipients are found to be less likely to develop an antibody response after the second dose)
The initial wave of results for the medical study I am in was published this morning. It tracks if transplant recipients develop antibodies from the vaccines.
Only 76 of 436 participants showed antibodies after the first vaccine. I am one of the 76 people so I am happy. Although I am stoked, it's not the best news for the transplant world. I am curious what the second vaccine results will show.
I ran across a similar story on cancer patients this weekend. It’s similarly not the best news, especially for blood/hemotological cancer patients. But, they didn’t have enough blood cancer patients getting two shots to publish results. It’s a bit better for solid cancers, for anyone else reading this and worrying.
Edit: I actually found this the day after my oncologist told me to stop worrying about my low lymphocytes because of t-cell immunity. And this did support him that t-cell was better than antibodies.
I know this isn't news (and maybe not Covid-related, but I hope it is...) but I still have this stupid swollen lymph node, 6 weeks after it showed up right after my first shot. I have a script for bloodwork, an ultrasound and a chest x-ray if it doesn't go away this week. I'm kinda freaking out.
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.”
I know this isn't news (and maybe not Covid-related, but I hope it is...) but I still have this stupid swollen lymph node, 6 weeks after it showed up right after my first shot. I have a script for bloodwork, an ultrasound and a chest x-ray if it doesn't go away this week. I'm kinda freaking out.
I still do too! 5 weeks tomorrow since my 2nd shot. I think it’s gone down a little bit the last couple days at least but still swollen. I happen to have a pcp appt next week and plan to ask then about it.
Post by Velar Fricative on Mar 15, 2021 20:33:01 GMT -5
We are reducing our materials quarantine from 96 hours to 24 hours. Honestly, we did it for one big reason despite knowing surface transmission is rare - it made patrons feel better. We were just not sure people would want to return to borrowing materials, which would be devastating for libraries. We think it's gotten to a point now where most users understand it's not really necessary. And we didn't outright lie and say there is definitely corona on the books they're borrowing if we don't quarantine for 96 hours - our talking points did mention that we are being realllllllly cautious to make people feel better about borrowing books.
Post by Velar Fricative on Mar 15, 2021 20:35:40 GMT -5
I really will be super curious to look back on overall management of the virus from state to state. But I fear that without true numbers, or even anywhere close to true numbers, plus no real consistency across the country (or even within states), we won't ever have solid theories. Which is scary because we obviously want to prevent the next pandemic.
I know this isn't news (and maybe not Covid-related, but I hope it is...) but I still have this stupid swollen lymph node, 6 weeks after it showed up right after my first shot. I have a script for bloodwork, an ultrasound and a chest x-ray if it doesn't go away this week. I'm kinda freaking out.
I had one after my first moderna dose, I’d say it popped up 1.5 weeks after the shot? It stayed for a few weeks. It was around my collarbone.
That's where mine is. If it had been a couple of weeks, I wouldn't be worried. But it's been around so long. Also, I'm a worrier...
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.”
I know this isn't news (and maybe not Covid-related, but I hope it is...) but I still have this stupid swollen lymph node, 6 weeks after it showed up right after my first shot. I have a script for bloodwork, an ultrasound and a chest x-ray if it doesn't go away this week. I'm kinda freaking out.
I still do too! 5 weeks tomorrow since my 2nd shot. I think it’s gone down a little bit the last couple days at least but still swollen. I happen to have a pcp appt next week and plan to ask then about it.
yes, I'm also driving myself crazy trying to decide if it's going down. Some days, I have to dig it out from under my collarbone to find it. Other days, it feels super large. I saw my PCP last week and she is convinced it's just vaccine. My sister (gyn-oncologist) says get it biopsied. Keep me posted what your PCP says!
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.”
I still do too! 5 weeks tomorrow since my 2nd shot. I think it’s gone down a little bit the last couple days at least but still swollen. I happen to have a pcp appt next week and plan to ask then about it.
yes, I'm also driving myself crazy trying to decide if it's going down. Some days, I have to dig it out from under my collarbone to find it. Other days, it feels super large. I saw my PCP last week and she is convinced it's just vaccine. My sister (gyn-oncologist) says get it biopsied. Keep me posted what your PCP says!
Yes! Same! Mine’s collarbone one too and depending on how I’m positioned I have trouble even finding it yet other times seems large.
I am still assuming vaccine but I have moments of freaking out. I actually have a mammogram scheduled next week too and everything said to schedule 4-6 weeks out because of lymph node swelling. But I’ve seen some things say it can be swollen longer. I’ll keep you posted! I hope yours goes down soon so you don’t have to get all the testing!
yes, I'm also driving myself crazy trying to decide if it's going down. Some days, I have to dig it out from under my collarbone to find it. Other days, it feels super large. I saw my PCP last week and she is convinced it's just vaccine. My sister (gyn-oncologist) says get it biopsied. Keep me posted what your PCP says!
Yes! Same! Mine’s collarbone one too and depending on how I’m positioned I have trouble even finding it yet other times seems large.
I am still assuming vaccine but I have moments of freaking out. I actually have a mammogram scheduled next week too and everything said to schedule 4-6 weeks out because of lymph node swelling. But I’ve seen some things say it can be swollen longer. I’ll keep you posted! I hope yours goes down soon so you don’t have to get all the testing!
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.”
This article cites someone who looked at death rates and argues the country would have had 360K fewer deaths if the whole country had responded the way SF did.
The disparities cited reflect not only different policies but also privilege.
This article cites someone who looked at death rates and argues the country would have had 360K fewer deaths if the whole country had responded the way SF did.
The disparities cited reflect not only different policies but also privilege.
I don't have the time or energy to do the actual data calculations, but on quick glance clicking on the JHU resources for each of the cities listed (Bronx doesn't seem to have a link), all the other cities have higher poverty, higher people with medicaid and higher people with no insurance. SF population listed is mostly white and asian and we know that that often correlates to higher income and less poverty due to historic racism toward Black and Hispanic persons. Dallas had almost 20% people with no insurance while SF barely has anyone with no insurance according to the links. I'm going to guess that SF in general has more people that could sit and work from home as opposed to being front line, low wage workers. Not a great article.
This article cites someone who looked at death rates and argues the country would have had 360K fewer deaths if the whole country had responded the way SF did.
The disparities cited reflect not only different policies but also privilege.
I don't have the time or energy to do the actual data calculations, but on quick glance clicking on the JHU resources for each of the cities listed (Bronx doesn't seem to have a link), all the other cities have higher poverty, higher people with medicaid and higher people with no insurance. SF population listed is mostly white and asian and we know that that often correlates to higher income and less poverty due to historic racism toward Black and Hispanic persons. Dallas had almost 20% people with no insurance while SF barely has anyone with no insurance according to the links. I'm going to guess that SF in general has more people that could sit and work from home as opposed to being front line, low wage workers. Not a great article.
I was reading a similar piece about Seattle; I think they actually have the lowest death rate of the top 20 major metro areas. But it’s also a city that doesn’t have as significant a Black or Hispanic population as the other major cities.
Not arguing that the white/Asian population likely plays a part in the death rate in that article. But, wrt insurance, I’m pretty sure SF has something like LA Care Health Plan - a basic plan available to anyone below a certain income threshold. That may be part of the reason there is a higher number of insured, as opposed to job type.
I certainly agree that we'll want to do a lot of research to know what is more or less effective, but I'm wary of comparing only by case rate since testing has varied widely. Comparing death or hospitalization rates would be more accurate, though still imperfect. (And we could control for population age, race, poverty levels, etc.)
To be fair after my post just above (saying we should compare death rates instead of case rates), I'm reading this article now and it says
"But death rates in Florida, proudly one of the loosest states, are hardly any higher than they are in California, self-flagellatingly one of the strictest."
Post by cattledogkisses on Mar 16, 2021 8:58:50 GMT -5
There are going to be so many factors to try to tease out, and it won't be any one in particular that makes the difference, it's going to be an interplay of multiple ones.
My own state has consistently faired better than pretty much every other state in the country, despite having an elderly population that is second only to Florida. Is it because of our low population density? The fact that the state is overwhelmingly white, albeit with significant poverty in many of the rural areas? It will be fascinating to see what studies find.
Post by kittenponypony on Mar 16, 2021 9:10:19 GMT -5
On the topic of hygiene theater, my coworkers are religious about wiping their desks down and keeping hand sanitizer in their cars, but go out to packed (indoor) restaurants on the weekends. Oh they’ve also been going on vacations to places like Bermuda, Miami, Mexico
We’re almost all vaccinated though (but many of the people they go out with and their SOs are not)
This article cites someone who looked at death rates and argues the country would have had 360K fewer deaths if the whole country had responded the way SF did.
The disparities cited reflect not only different policies but also privilege.
I don't have the time or energy to do the actual data calculations, but on quick glance clicking on the JHU resources for each of the cities listed (Bronx doesn't seem to have a link), all the other cities have higher poverty, higher people with medicaid and higher people with no insurance. SF population listed is mostly white and asian and we know that that often correlates to higher income and less poverty due to historic racism toward Black and Hispanic persons. Dallas had almost 20% people with no insurance while SF barely has anyone with no insurance according to the links. I'm going to guess that SF in general has more people that could sit and work from home as opposed to being front line, low wage workers. Not a great article.
Yes. i should have put more context in the post. I meant it as a counter point to the statement that you don’t see differences between locations - because while it points out differential rates, the main factor appears to be privilege in the form of access to healthcare. I mentioned privilege but perhaps didn’t emphasize it fully.
And to be clear, my issues was more that they didn't address re-opening plans, PPE/ curbside materials, quarantines or vaccines. Luckily, we did have one group that provided leadership. I just expected more from some of the other orgs and our local health department, and I felt very much all on my own in trying to figure all of this out.
On the topic of hygiene theater, my coworkers are religious about wiping their desks down and keeping hand sanitizer in their cars, but go out to packed (indoor) restaurants on the weekends. Oh they’ve also been going on vacations to places like Bermuda, Miami, Mexico
We’re almost all vaccinated though (but many of the people they go out with and their SOs are not)
Yeah, I've noticed this too but I think it's just because it's easy and makes you feel good that you're doing something. It's hard not hanging out with people, especially after a year. But douse the table in Lysol and everything is a-ok!
melmaria , I asked our industry organization when we could stop quarantining materials and they couldn't give me an answer. So far this year, it has been 3 days, then 7, then back to 3 and now 24 hours. There has been exactly zero evidence that these materials have given anyone Covid.
I think in some cities in California, there's still like a 72 hour quarantine on library books between borrowers? Idk, our California posters can correct me on the exact timeframe, but my CA sister was complaining about it.
Meanwhile, shipping books to your house on Amazon prime in <48 hours, no matter how many people in the warehouse/along the mail route handle the packages, is a-OK!
We're completely destroying public/free services in this country, for absolutely no reason. Meanwhile, the Jeff Bezoses of the world keep getting richer...
Ours in CO are still at a week. It’s ridiculous and the holds lists aren’t moving much.
We may be a younger state, but we also have double the share of immigrants compared to the national average. And that’s just what’s reported to the us census
I’d love to see state death rates broken down by race/ethnicity and immigration status, since we cannot ignore these factors if we want to draw any meaningful conclusions from the data.
We may be a younger state, but we also have double the share of immigrants compared to the national average. And that’s just what’s reported to the us census
I’d love to see state death rates broken down by race/ethnicity and immigration status, since we cannot ignore these factors if we want to draw any meaningful conclusions from the data.
There are also 1.5 million more seniors in CA than FL. We all know outcomes with seniors are generally worse than those under 65, so that may have played a role as well.
Indiana is 45+ as of today. My sis is a physician in Indy and said there are lots of appointments available at the IU Health Methodist Neuroscience building.
Indiana is 45+ as of today. My sis is a physician in Indy and said there are lots of appointments available at the IU Health Methodist Neuroscience building.
My parents got their first vaccine this past Saturday at Riley Hospital (downtown - children’s hospital). The process was super easy, building had everything well marked, and they even validated parking.
I'm in SE Virginia and one of the local hospital systems sent me a message to schedule today. I don't know how they decided as I got one and DH did not, probably weight for me, but it's a good sign if they are expanding.