EDITED: heated discussion about John Stamos

[Deleted]

Jan 22, 2014 14:35:58 GMT -5 AJL said:

Why is DJ wearing her nun bathing suit? Ugh. I hated that show.

this kiss looks so unbelievably, awesomely awkward.

[bronxgirl]

Jan 22, 2014 14:39:25 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Jan 22, 2014 14:30:31 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

It was John Stamos. He wanted his character to be Greek. 

I thought he was still Greek on the show even when his last name is Cochran. Oops.

he was.  They had a whole episode about it.  Katsopolous was his real name, but he changed it as a stage name, but later reclaimed his identity and changed it back.    I am slo glad to read that he made his rape confession in Jane, which was supposed to be an adult magazine, rather than the previously mentioned Sassy which was aimed at teenage girls.  Oh, and fuck him.

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

Jan 22, 2014 13:49:20 GMT -5 penguingrrl said:

Jan 22, 2014 13:42:26 GMT -5 @septimus said:

I disagree, before details were confirmed I was envisioning him sharing a room with two beds with his friend not purposely tricking the girl. 

Nothing about it sounded like an innocent mix up to me. 

Ah, the lost episode of Full House, where two guys conspire to trick a girl into having sex with one of them when she thought it was another.  It was an adult "very special episode."  Hijinks ensue.

[Velar Fricative]

Remember (or not) when I said in The MONSTER EPIC OMG Thread last month that I need to get better at bookmarking great threads from the early part of each year when we do our end-of-year reminiscing?

This thread is bookmarked for 2014.

[kadams767]

Jan 22, 2014 13:56:08 GMT -5 @septimus said:

Jan 22, 2014 13:46:00 GMT -5 wawa said:

Except the entire point to the original detailess story wss that they tricked her! Not some innocent mix up.

I must have missed that in the original post about how it was a trick. 

Um, what?  You're a smart woman, you have got to be kidding on this one. 

[heyjude]

Of course it's rape! In both the detailess scenario and the updated one!

C'mon!

Didn't we all read in lawschoool that case where the husband tricked his wife into having sex with another man with her thinking it was her husband?

RAPE!

Not even gray rape or Robin Thicke rapey. RAPE. I think it's even explicitly rape according to many state statutes.

[heyjude]

I'm so disappointed in the ladies here.

CONSENT TO SEX WITH ONE MAN IS NOT CONSENT TO SEX WITH ALL MEN!!!

Is this thread actually a portal to the dark ages FFS?!

[FloFTW]

Jan 22, 2014 15:14:49 GMT -5 heyjude said:

I'm so disappointed in the ladies here.

CONSENT TO SEX WITH ONE MAN IS NOT CONSENT TO SEX WITH ALL MEN!!!

Is this thread actually a portal to the dark ages FFS?!

AMEN.

Is my consent like a Pay Per View movie? It's good for 24 hours on whatever TV in the house/whatever man enters the room?

[ESF]

[Melissa W.]

Jan 22, 2014 15:19:06 GMT -5 FloFTW said:

Jan 22, 2014 15:14:49 GMT -5 heyjude said:

I'm so disappointed in the ladies here.

CONSENT TO SEX WITH ONE MAN IS NOT CONSENT TO SEX WITH ALL MEN!!!

Is this thread actually a portal to the dark ages FFS?!

AMEN.

Is my consent like a Pay Per View movie? It's good for 24 hours on whatever TV in the house/whatever man enters the room?

Only if you willing watch it. 

[NewOrleans]

I am side-eyeing the FUCK out of this "legitimate rape" discussion. 

[lvhorses]

That commercial was disappointing. I want my thirty seconds back.

[NewOrleans]

Jan 22, 2014 15:14:49 GMT -5 heyjude said:

I'm so disappointed in the ladies here.

CONSENT TO SEX WITH ONE MAN IS NOT CONSENT TO SEX WITH ALL MEN!!!

Is this thread actually a portal to the dark ages FFS?!

[doobeedoo]

Jan 22, 2014 12:58:15 GMT -5 Melissa W. said:

Proper id? I'm not talking about carding someone.

You could also argue that she raped him, no?  I mean, dude could have been sleeping in Stamos' room when someone starts going at it.  We don't know the details, and likely never will, but at face value I don't think it is necessarily rape.

[doobeedoo]

Jan 22, 2014 16:23:55 GMT -5 doobeedoo said:

Jan 22, 2014 12:58:15 GMT -5 Melissa W. said:

Proper id? I'm not talking about carding someone.

You could also argue that she raped him, no?  I mean, dude could have been sleeping in Stamos' room when someone starts going at it.  We don't know the details, and likely never will, but at face value I don't think it is necessarily rape.

Never mind.  I replied before the follow up.

[notsocreepylurker]

Law & Order SVU did an episode sorta about this. Lady wakes up to man raping her. Man says NU UH -- she posted online that she wanted me to break in and rape her -- rape fantasy - she sent me sexy pictures - not my fault!!! Turns out it was the lady's ex who was stalking her who wrote the rape fantasy ad and all but the guy was still found guilty of rape. Because, ya know, he raped her.

ETA: And we all know if its on L&O then it is TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[doctordonna]

Rapey or not rapey, I'd still bang John Stamos.

ETA:  Same goes for Rob Lowe.  

[cookietime]

But would you bang his friend?

[heyjude]

Jan 22, 2014 16:38:36 GMT -5 doctordonna said:

Rapey or not rapey, I'd still bang John Stamos.

ETA:  Same goes for Rob Lowe.  

This is an invitation for Dave Coulier to have sex with you. YWIA.

[doctordonna]

Jan 22, 2014 17:16:00 GMT -5 heyjude said:

Jan 22, 2014 16:38:36 GMT -5 doctordonna said:

Rapey or not rapey, I'd still bang John Stamos.

ETA:  Same goes for Rob Lowe.  

This is an invitation for Dave Coulier to have sex with you. YWIA.

I refuse to go down on him in a theater.  

[doctordonna]

Jan 22, 2014 17:03:38 GMT -5 cookietime said:

But would you bang his friend?

Was his friend cute? 

[cookietime]

Yes, he looks just like Uncle Jesse

[satsuma]

Jan 22, 2014 16:36:18 GMT -5 notsocreepylurker said:

Law & Order SVU did an episode sorta about this. Lady wakes up to man raping her. Man says NU UH -- she posted online that she wanted me to break in and rape her -- rape fantasy - she sent me sexy pictures - not my fault!!! Turns out it was the lady's ex who was stalking her who wrote the rape fantasy ad and all but the guy was still found guilty of rape. Because, ya know, he raped her.

ETA: And we all know if its on L&O then it is TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Something very similar happened IRL. A woman's ex-boyfriend put an ad on Craigslist. The details are really disturbing. Both men received 60 year prison sentences. www.vcstar.com/news/2010/jun/29/2nd-man-gets-60-years-in-wyo-internet-rape-case/?print=1

[ttt]

Jan 22, 2014 15:14:49 GMT -5 heyjude said:

I'm so disappointed in the ladies here.

CONSENT TO SEX WITH ONE MAN IS NOT CONSENT TO SEX WITH ALL MEN!!!

Is this thread actually a portal to the dark ages FFS?!

Of course it's not. But a scenario where a woman enters a hotel room, refuses to look at the man in there even though she knows he's a total stranger, proceeds to have sex with him anyway - that's not rape, IMO. She consented to have sex with the man in front of her. Apart from a total stranger's word, she had no reason to be really believe that the man in the room was the man she was told it would be. I do believe there is some burden on her to actually look at the person you're about to have sex with if you are wanting to have sex with a particular person.

And as it turned out, that's not even what happened with Uncle Jesse. Even without the switcheroo, he acknowledged that she was "really drunk" so that's enough to put the brakes on consent right there. 

[Deleted]

Jan 22, 2014 14:12:36 GMT -5 ttt said:

Also, if Quantum Leap isn't actually as good as I thought it was when I was 10, I do NOT want to know about it.

It's just as good. Don't you worry.

[Michelle]

Jan 22, 2014 13:25:38 GMT -5 @letshike said:

So I tried googling the whole story and I can't find the actual printed interview but this is supposedlrview.

"...When Jane magazine asked the Olsen twins' erstwhile Uncle Jesse about the worst thing he'd ever done to screw someone over, he provided this character-destroying anecdote: "[In the mid-'80s], I was in a band. I was playing somewhere in Finland, and there was a girl hanging around who was really drunk and interested in me. I wasn't into her, but my friend was."

Sadly, the fact that the former "Full House" star was in a band isn't the most disturbing part of this tale. John, please continue: "So the girl came back to my hotel, and I turned the lights down, and we started making out. I said, 'Hold on a second, I've gotta go brush my teeth.' It was dark, I left the room, and I sent in my friend who looked like me. [etc.]"

So if this is true looks like the girl was wasted, it was him at the beginning and then someone slipped in his place. That's so fucked up and absolutely rape. If this was a college frat guy there would be no question.

Based on this i am comfortably on team rape. But before this, i felt there was some accountability to turn the light on to check, but like lyssbobiss i felt it was a gross violation no matter what but i was not quite sure about rape.

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

heyjude, you win all of the things today. I have coffee in my nose and down my shirt from laughing at that!

[heyjude]

Rape defined in Ca. See 261(a)(5).

www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=261-269

[josieposy]

Okay. So let's say the chick is legally blind. Is she THEN obligated to look at him first?

JFC people.

[heyjude]

Jan 23, 2014 0:00:33 GMT -5 josieposy said:

Okay. So let's say the chick is legally blind. Is she THEN obligated to look at him first?

JFC people.

Blind women can't be raped. HTH.

Nor can women in tight jeans.