EDITED: heated discussion about John Stamos

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Jan 23, 2014 10:05:17 GMT -5 FloFTW said:

I give blanket consent to all the men in the West Wing. Even Leo.

Leo is really damn sexy. 

[redheadbaker]

Jan 22, 2014 17:35:02 GMT -5 ttt said:

Jan 22, 2014 15:14:49 GMT -5 heyjude said:

I'm so disappointed in the ladies here.

CONSENT TO SEX WITH ONE MAN IS NOT CONSENT TO SEX WITH ALL MEN!!!

Is this thread actually a portal to the dark ages FFS?!

Of course it's not. But a scenario where a woman enters a hotel room, refuses to look at the man in there even though she knows he's a total stranger, proceeds to have sex with him anyway - that's not rape, IMO. She consented to have sex with the man in front of her.

Um, what? No.

[earlgreyhot]

Definitely rape, and probably happens all the fucking time. He probably think he probably did his friend a favor.

[josieposy]

Donald O'Connor here.

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I must be getting old. I was watching Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy the other day and even John Hurt was looking cute to me. The movie is slow and plodding though so I suppose you're left with nothing better to do than play "would you hit it" with the entire cast.

[heyjude]

It happens enough that it was codified in Ca penal code as part of the definition of rape!

"(5) Where a person submits under the belief that the person committing the act is someone known to the victim other than the accused, and this belief is induced by any artifice, pretense, or concealment practiced by the accused, with intent to induce the belief."

Eta. That was supposed to quote @majorwife.

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Jan 23, 2014 10:41:47 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

Jan 23, 2014 10:37:51 GMT -5 earlgreyhot said:

Definitely rape, and probably happens all the fucking time. He probably think he probably did his friend a favor.

really? i am so uncharacteristically optimistic that it doesnt. i can see a lot of "fuck my friend first and then i will fuck you" but not a full on switcheroo

In the era this article comes from, yes. I guarantee you Bret Michaels, Axl Rose, and all of the rest of them from that era pulled exactly this sort of switcheroo all of the time.

[doctordonna]

I adore Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.

Gary Oldman? Check.

Colin Firth? Check.

Benedict Cumberbatch? Check Check.

[Saint Monica]

Jan 23, 2014 9:49:44 GMT -5 wrathofkuus said:

Jan 23, 2014 9:43:56 GMT -5 jillboston said:

See what I mean? I also had a crush on....

Gene Wilder. (now THAT is weird)

Rick Moranis

I would bang Rick Moranis like a screen door in a hurricane. 

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Jan 23, 2014 10:46:33 GMT -5 doctordonna said:

I adore Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.

Gary Oldman? Check.

Colin Firth? Check.

Benedict Cumberbatch? Check Check.

I was completely focused on Tom Hardy at the first viewing. But after several reviews, I think Mark Strong can get it first. But only if he talks.

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Jan 23, 2014 10:48:53 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

Jan 23, 2014 10:46:31 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

In the era this article comes from, yes. I guarantee you Bret Michaels, Axl Rose, and all of the rest of them from that era pulled exactly this sort of switcheroo all of the time.

i suppose. i mean, wasnt it led zepplin that had a groupie fuck a shark?

I've gone out of my way to avoid finding out the shark story.

[doctordonna]

Jan 23, 2014 10:51:41 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

Jan 23, 2014 10:46:33 GMT -5 doctordonna said:

I adore Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.

Gary Oldman? Check.

Colin Firth? Check.

Benedict Cumberbatch? Check Check.

I was completely focused on Tom Hardy at the first viewing. But after several reviews, I think Mark Strong can get it first. But only if he talks.

Word.  

[gpw]

OMG, what the hell happened in here? The last thing I know I was posting pictures of Uncle Joey?! Who has time to read 6 pages!?

ETA:  oh, I see what happened.  That didn't take long.  Just so I'm clear...if I tell my husband it's ok to have sex, it means I'm ok with having sex with any random that happens to be in our room, or hotel room, etc.  

good to know

[gpw]

Jan 22, 2014 12:43:57 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

Jan 22, 2014 12:41:01 GMT -5 @septimus said:

that would be rape. She didn't consent to the friend using the key... but she walked into a room and had willing sex without talking or seeing the face? 

there are so many nuances here that fall just shy of slut shaming and victim blaming. (YES I FUCKING SAID IT!!)

she consented to sex with JS. she was tricked into having sex with someone not JS. that is rape.

this is just like the scene that @immamalcomx posted in the movie thread about Revenge of the Nerds. rape, rape, rape, rapey, rape rape

no...they don't fall shy.  At all.  

(I'm still on page TWO!)

[gpw]

Jan 22, 2014 16:23:55 GMT -5 doobeedoo said:

Jan 22, 2014 12:58:15 GMT -5 Melissa W. said:

Proper id? I'm not talking about carding someone.

You could also argue that she raped him, no?  I mean, dude could have been sleeping in Stamos' room when someone starts going at it.  We don't know the details, and likely never will, but at face value I don't think it is necessarily rape.

NO. Even BEFORE the follow up.  I hope someone said that to you before I did, too.  He was waiting for her, FFS.  He was consenting to sex. 

JFC.  I can't believe what I'm reading in this thread from smart women.  It's fucking depressing.

[zelda25]

Jan 23, 2014 9:29:50 GMT -5 jillboston said:

Rape. No question.
On a lighter note- I am starting to think that women crush on men based on the woman's age at the time. I like dark and handsome but don't even get one tiny tingly about John Stamos and I never have. But I was older than you all when Full House was on. Now - Shaun Cassidy that was another story.
Now I crush on Toby Ziegler so - my theory stands.

You, me: separated at birth.

True story: when we were around 6, my cousin and I once decided that we were going to walk (LOL) to California to be with Shaun Cassidy. We announced our intentions to my aunt, who packed us a lunch and sent us on our way. I think we made it four blocks.

LOL.

[mrshandy]

Jan 22, 2014 13:25:38 GMT -5 @letshike said:

So I tried googling the whole story and I can't find the actual printed interview but this is supposedly a quote from that interview.

"...When Jane magazine asked the Olsen twins' erstwhile Uncle Jesse about the worst thing he'd ever done to screw someone over, he provided this character-destroying anecdote: "[In the mid-'80s], I was in a band. I was playing somewhere in Finland, and there was a girl hanging around who was really drunk and interested in me. I wasn't into her, but my friend was."

Sadly, the fact that the former "Full House" star was in a band isn't the most disturbing part of this tale. John, please continue: "So the girl came back to my hotel, and I turned the lights down, and we started making out. I said, 'Hold on a second, I've gotta go brush my teeth.' It was dark, I left the room, and I sent in my friend who looked like me. [etc.]"

So if this is true looks like the girl was wasted, it was him at the beginning and then someone slipped in his place. That's so fucked up and absolutely rape. If this was a college frat guy there would be no question.

Fucked up and definitely rape.

[elleblue]

Jan 23, 2014 10:48:53 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

Jan 23, 2014 10:46:31 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

In the era this article comes from, yes. I guarantee you Bret Michaels, Axl Rose, and all of the rest of them from that era pulled exactly this sort of switcheroo all of the time.

i suppose. i mean, wasnt it led zepplin that had a groupie fuck a shark?

Wut? 

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

If someone is in here talking shit about my beloved Bert Michaels and his constant boners, I will find you. Do you hear me? I love that man.

Someone bring back Rock of Love.

[AJL]

Jan 23, 2014 10:45:26 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

I suppose you're left with nothing better to do than play "would you hit it" with the entire cast.

And the answer is yes, yes, yep, everyday & twice on Sunday, and sure!

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Jan 23, 2014 14:44:07 GMT -5 AJL said:

Jan 23, 2014 10:45:26 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

I suppose you're left with nothing better to do than play "would you hit it" with the entire cast.

And the answer is yes, yes, yep, everyday & twice on Sunday, and sure!

John Hurt has such an adorable befuddled face lol

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Re: the old rapey switcheroo by John Stamos, I will never look at this movie (and this scene in particular) the same. 


"Mabel! Your goosebumps have grown!" 

[msmerymac]

Jan 23, 2014 14:30:01 GMT -5 lyssbobiss, Command, B613 said:

If someone is in here talking shit about my beloved Bert Michaels and his constant boners, I will find you. Do you hear me? I love that man.

Someone bring back Rock of Love.

Rock of Love was the best show Vh1 ever produced. 

[meshaliuknits]

Jan 23, 2014 9:42:09 GMT -5 wrathofkuus said:

Jan 23, 2014 9:29:50 GMT -5 jillboston said:

Rape. No question.
On a lighter note- I am starting to think that women crush on men based on the woman's age at the time. I like dark and handsome but don't even get one tiny tingly about John Stamos and I never have. But I was older than you all when Full House was on. Now - Shaun Cassidy that was another story.
Now I crush on Toby Ziegler so - my theory stands.

This would explain my ongoing adoration for both Ralph Macchio and Chris Hardwick.

Chris Hardwick is adorable and I didn't learn of his existence until I got cable in my 20s and saw Attack of the Show.

[decemberwedding07]

Jan 23, 2014 14:58:34 GMT -5 @vanessadoof said:

Re: the old rapey switcheroo by John Stamos, I will never look at this movie (and this scene in particular) the same. 


"Mabel! Your goosebumps have grown!" 

What movie is this?

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Jan 23, 2014 15:03:06 GMT -5 meshaliuknits said:

Jan 23, 2014 9:42:09 GMT -5 wrathofkuus said:

This would explain my ongoing adoration for both Ralph Macchio and Chris Hardwick.

Chris Hardwick is adorable and I didn't learn of his existence until I got cable in my 20s and saw Attack of the Show.

Fucking Olivia Munn. I dislike her immensely.

I liked Sessler. He's on youtube now, talking about video games. He clearly has words to say about G4 but is too nice or tied up in a non-disclosure contract to talk.

[AJL]

Jan 23, 2014 14:58:34 GMT -5 @vanessadoof said:

Re: the old rapey switcheroo by John Stamos, I will never look at this movie (and this scene in particular) the same. 


"Mabel! Your goosebumps have grown!" 

Ha! The Pirate Movie

[meshaliuknits]

Jan 23, 2014 15:20:17 GMT -5 @helenabonhamcarter said:

Jan 23, 2014 15:03:06 GMT -5 meshaliuknits said:

Chris Hardwick is adorable and I didn't learn of his existence until I got cable in my 20s and saw Attack of the Show.

Fucking Olivia Munn. I dislike her immensely.

I liked Sessler. He's on youtube now, talking about video games. He clearly has words to say about G4 but is too nice or tied up in a non-disclosure contract to talk.

WORD

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Jan 23, 2014 15:20:19 GMT -5 AJL said:

Jan 23, 2014 14:58:34 GMT -5 @vanessadoof said:

Re: the old rapey switcheroo by John Stamos, I will never look at this movie (and this scene in particular) the same. 


"Mabel! Your goosebumps have grown!" 

Ha! The Pirate Movie

I am so glad someone else knows this movie. My sister and I watched that constantly on our original top-loading VCR.

Mabel: You'll be hung!
The Pirate King: Oh I am, I am, and very well thank you.

Ruth basically was like Stamos's friend in this story.