Fall

[ilikedonuts]

Nov 26, 2016 18:17:46 GMT -5 steph96 said:

At least this was better than the Fuller House series?

This was my thought the entire time watching it. Like at least the majority of the GG cast can at least act decently. Basically no one on Fuller House can.

[Eagles]

Fuck everything.

[irene adler]

Nov 26, 2016 20:20:48 GMT -5 ilikedonuts said:

Nov 26, 2016 18:17:46 GMT -5 steph96 said:

At least this was better than the Fuller House series?

This was my thought the entire time watching it. Like at least the majority of the GG cast can at least act decently. Basically no one on Fuller House can.

You hush up. Kimmy Gibbler is a national treasure

[lilibet]

Nov 26, 2016 18:51:48 GMT -5 noodleskooze said:

Sort of random, and I need to rewatch, but there was a particular word Scott Patterson/Luke used several times in one of his longer speeches that didn't seem right--like he read he script and kept pronouncing this particular word wrong and no one corrected him. I really wish I could remember because now it's driving me crazy.

Is it the one in the diner with Jess where he keeps saying snIpe instead of sNIP? That was driving me nuts and then I started thinking "wait, do *I* say it wrong?" It' s-nip, right? Like, don't get snippy with me? and he was saying it like sniper the kind that shoots people.

[lilibet]

So after thinking about it I'm ok with who they had as their witnesses. Yes, it would have been nice to have Jess there but Lane was always basically a second daughter when they were growing up and she and Luke became friends when she worked at the diner. So I imagine they're all close. And Michele and Lorelei seem much closer now, like he's stepped into the Sookie bff role, so I'm really glad he was there.

[OG Jo]

I think the entire thing sucked and I'm pissed I invested 6 hours plus all this time I've been wandering around the Interwebz trying to figure out if other people hated it too. It was boring, trite, and over acted.

Emily was the only bright spot for me. Her character and grief work was 100% spot on and I loved that she got a happy ending.

I feel like a genius for spawning off my own pregnancy theory. Rory used Paris' service to find a sperm donor. She realized the only constant connection she would have in life is with a child, like the only consistent relationship in Lorelei's life with her.

Or... she is a straight up surrogate. Poor. Desperate for something big to happen. Selfish and wants an "easy" way to make money.

I just don't think ASP cared about their viewers or characters...... if she had this ridiculous crap would not have been shoved in our faces. That ridiculously drawn out musical??? Wtf was that about??? I jumped ship then. My sister had already finished and I was sending her texts like, this is sofa king boring... tell me I am not wasting 6 hours of my life...

I would've preferred S7 ending to this crap.

I WANT MY SIX HOURS BACK.

[lust2hart]

Nov 26, 2016 18:51:48 GMT -5 noodleskooze said:

Sort of random, and I need to rewatch, but there was a particular word Scott Patterson/Luke used several times in one of his longer speeches that didn't seem right--like he read he script and kept pronouncing this particular word wrong and no one corrected him. I really wish I could remember because now it's driving me crazy.

When he was talking with Jess about Lorelei's hike, he said "Oops" at least three times, only he pronounced it "Upps." 

[lust2hart]

Nov 26, 2016 2:00:02 GMT -5 RoxMonster said:

What the fuck?? I was so hoping the last four words were not a cliffhanger and not about pregnancy. So lol.

I really enjoyed the rest of fall. The wedding was perfect. Emily was brilliant...in all seasons. I liked seeing Dean again. But I hated the ending. I wanted real closure and was hoping the last four words would almost be something random and every day and trivial like a lot of their conversations are. I liked all four episodes but an thrown off by this ending.

I always thought the last four words would be something like Wanna get some coffee? or Let's go to Luke's. 

[Pom]

Rory has always been torn between the small town life she was raised in, where Lorelei thrives, and the adventure and money that she is drawn to with Logan. It really didn't surprise me that she is flailing and that this was the focus. Kind of funny that Mitchum called it way back when, "she doesn't have it". Things were always smoothed over for her with Emily and Richard's money. Chilton, Yale, a fancy pool house to live in...she liked having a maid, partying and being swept into Logan's world. Lorelei kept her grounded.

I find it hard to believe that Rory's destitute. She hasn't earned her own money, but between Gran's money, Richard's and Chris, she's got funds. If Richard left money for Luke's expansion, he left money for Rory. Same with Lorelei, the wardrobe, travel, etc... I simply don't think Rory has the drive Lorelei had to avoid the strings and obligations that come with the society life and money. I think Rory is still hurt that Logan's family will not accept her and that is the only thing that is keeping her from stopping Logan's wedding. She's not really into being "editor" of the paper...Christ, she even had to call her mommy to get the paper delivered. None the less, I thought the ending and "circle of circumstances" was too cliche, but it was a nice little trip down memory lane. I think they left it open ended on purpose, but should let it end.

I did love Emily's story, but always have. Her rants like "throw her in a ditch and let a wolverine eat her" and attacking Logan's mother were always flawless, so the DAR thing was fun. I also enjoyed all the cakes that Sookie made for the wedding. Classic flashback to the excess of their ridiculous business practices, but very sweet. I also loved that Kirk nailed the wedding set.

[noodleskooze]

Nov 27, 2016 0:51:29 GMT -5 lilibet said:

Nov 26, 2016 18:51:48 GMT -5 noodleskooze said:

Sort of random, and I need to rewatch, but there was a particular word Scott Patterson/Luke used several times in one of his longer speeches that didn't seem right--like he read he script and kept pronouncing this particular word wrong and no one corrected him. I really wish I could remember because now it's driving me crazy.

Is it the one in the diner with Jess where he keeps saying snIpe instead of sNIP? That was driving me nuts and then I started thinking "wait, do *I* say it wrong?" It' s-nip, right? Like, don't get snippy with me? and he was saying it like sniper the kind that shoots people.

YESSS thank you!

[wambam]

OMG someone on facebook just Jesus juked Gilmore girls by saying the reason we're disappointed in Rory is that "God made us with an innate desire for redemption." I am dying.

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Where else are y'all reading reviews?

[mrsjd2]

Emily's story arc was perfect and Kelly Bishop is amazing. The maid was a bit over the top with the complete communication block and the number of random relatives joining them, but whatever.

My biggest complaint with Lorelai and Rory'/ story lines (besides the cheating stuff which pissed me off) is the complete lack of development for 10 years since the end of season 7. I

Luke and Lorelai always had communication issues and the topic of marriage was previously a big deal for them. The issue of kids also had come up. But for 10 years they never really talked about any of it at all?

Rory always had some sort of grand life plan - fancy school, Ivy League, impressive career. All that is mentioned were a few freelance type things. I don't understand how she would have gone so long before the career freak out over her plan.

If there had only been like 5 years between the two I wouldn't complain so much, but 9 just seems too long for them to be where they are. Or if there had been some more filled in - Luke and Lorelai had talked, but decided marriage didn't matter, but now realizing it is important to them, or Rory had taken an entry level job and get stuck, or had lost a good job and went spiraling.

I also wish we had more of Lane. What is she doing? Is she a stay at home mom, working full time for her mom, doing something else? Does the band do more than just play in her living room?

[kaybee85]

Also,did Lorelei write Emily that letter or not? Never resolved as far as I remember.

[doglove]

Nov 26, 2016 9:18:56 GMT -5 wambam said:

Nov 26, 2016 9:09:53 GMT -5 kadams767 said:

I agree she didn't want it, because she's seen it play out with her own parents and knows how it ends.  And it's not with them together, you know?  It's not with him being a good, active parent.  Logan might love her, but it's not enough.  I don't doubt that Christopher loved Lorelei, but that wasn't enough to make him not be a completely flighty parent.  He tried to get it together with Lorelei how many times?  I think Logan would be the same.

Also, the parallels between Mitchum and Christopher's parents are the same.  Logan wouldn't get past Rory not being good enough to be a Huntsberger the same as Christopher's parents didn't ever welcome Lorelei or Rory.  When Mitchum was in the club scene, looking back on that now that I've watched the whole thing, ew.  So smarmy, but Logan isn't strong enough to do the right thing and walk away from that world.  

Except that Logan did walk away from that world at the end of season 7.

The more I think about this, the more I'm frustrated that Amy didn't watch season 7. I understand she didn't write it, but it was still the show.

I honestly don't think ASP ever would have written Logan's character the way he was written in season 7. He grew up and matured and that's what made him enduring in season 7 to me. It seemed as though she always wanted him to be the immature rich guy who let his dad put in a good word for him, married some rich woman, etc. - the way she wrote him in this netflix series. I get what she was trying to do with the comparison to Christopher, but for the Logan fans this sucks. I find it very hard to believe after he proposed to her that he would come back and treat her as a side piece like this after his character matured and experienced a lot of growth in the last season of the OS. 

[doglove]

Nov 26, 2016 11:07:14 GMT -5 namasteak said:

Do you think that the reason they didn't have Jess and Rory get together was because of how awful Milo is IRL?

I was wondering that as I was watching them in the scene at the Stars Hollow gazette while they drank their lunch. Alexis looked uncomfortable and was not making hardly any type of eye contact with him - did anyone else notice this? 

[doglove]

Anyone catch the cameo by Melissa McCarthy as one of the hikers of the PCT? She asks if they are the book or movie and says she is movie. I had to reverse a few times to make sure, but it definitely seems to be her!

[PeonyParty]

Nov 27, 2016 9:38:58 GMT -5 kaybee85 said:

Also,did Lorelei write Emily that letter or not? Never resolved as far as I remember.

OH MY GOD- YES. Why was this never addressed? I don't believe Lorelai wrote it but WHO DID?
I fully expected it to be covered in the next session. So frustrating!

[raangoli]

LOVED Emily. She was phenomenal.

I knew it would end with Rory being pregnant. I can't say I'm surprised. It's definitely Logan's baby.

I'm mad that Lorelei did not get her happy day to herself but that was par for the course.

I wish we knew who wrote that letter.

And did we really see Lane's dad? He was never mentioned in the original 7 right?

[starlily]

Nov 27, 2016 11:20:26 GMT -5 raangoli said:

LOVED Emily. She was phenomenal.

I knew it would end with Rory being pregnant. I can't say I'm surprised. It's definitely Logan's baby.

I'm mad that Lorelei did not get her happy day to herself but that was par for the course.

I wish we knew who wrote that letter.

And did we really see Lane's dad? He was never mentioned in the original 7 right?

I think Lane referred to her parentS, but there was never a Mr. Kim sighting.

Pom summed up all of my thoughts. Get out of my head Pom!

[TR]

Nov 27, 2016 8:02:57 GMT -5 noodleskooze said:

Nov 27, 2016 0:51:29 GMT -5 lilibet said:

Is it the one in the diner with Jess where he keeps saying snIpe instead of sNIP? That was driving me nuts and then I started thinking "wait, do *I* say it wrong?" It' s-nip, right? Like, don't get snippy with me? and he was saying it like sniper the kind that shoots people.

YESSS thank you!

Oh see now, I say "snippy" as an adjective, but "snipe" as a verb. 

[youbetcha]

Lane's dad was seen loading up her giant suitcase when her mom sent her to visit relatives for the summer at the end of a season. (I think! I can't find a screen cap.)

I hate open endings but I kind of liked the end. Instead of growing up too fast like L, R grew up too slowly. I think it would be interesting to see in some form or another. In a way this will also be the "fresh baby" L & L talked about. I would have loved to see how Logan reacted.

[gretchenindisguise]

We were very meh on it until the last half of Fall. Then it felt like Gilmore Girls we know and love again.

[zitiqueen]

Nov 27, 2016 8:27:15 GMT -5 @lazerus24 said:

Where else are y'all reading reviews?

I'm split between here and the forum at Previously.TV

[namasteak]

Nov 27, 2016 11:08:19 GMT -5 doglove said:

Nov 26, 2016 11:07:14 GMT -5 namasteak said:

Do you think that the reason they didn't have Jess and Rory get together was because of how awful Milo is IRL?

I was wondering that as I was watching them in the scene at the Stars Hollow gazette while they drank their lunch. Alexis looked uncomfortable and was not making hardly any type of eye contact with him - did anyone else notice this? 

Yes but i attributed it to AB being a shitty actress.

[konapoppy]

Nov 27, 2016 8:27:15 GMT -5 @lazerus24 said:

Where else are y'all reading reviews?

I am reading the previously tv forums, but I liked the spoiled review by Alan Sepinwall and Linda Holmes' review for NPR.

[irene adler]

I just rewatched the last 30 min. The look on Loreli's face after the final four words?!?





PISS OFF PALLADINOS

[vanlatte]

I just finished and am moderately disappointed. Although I loved everything Emily, especially her ending, I think I needed to see more of a resolution between her and Lorelai. Like a meaningful hug, a sincere I love you, or at least an understanding of how much they've hurt and disappointed each other. But I guess that wouldn't be true to their characters.
My favorite parts of Fall (in fact of all 6+ hours) were the middle and ending, excluding those last 4 fucking words. My first thought wasn't about it being Logan's baby. I think that through the writing of those first few chapters of the book, she realized that she wanted what she and Lorelai had, and would never be happy without a child of her own. Instead of it being Logan's baby, I'd like to think that Paris helped her through IVF with a sperm donor. I don't know, I need to rewatch. I don't remember seeing Mae Whitman and a few other things that were mentioned here. And btw, Mae was a much better TV daughter than Alexis. *no Rory love here*
Also, I'll just drop this here, I have always been team Dean and was bummed when he told her he was still married and expecting another baby.
-----------> I'll see myself out now.

[redheadk]

vanlatte, Mae was the girl in the line that lorelai gave the cronut to. And she can act circles around Alexis, who is bland as fuck.

[annieblah]

Nov 27, 2016 22:12:59 GMT -5 vanlatte said:

Also, I'll just drop this here, I have always been team Dean and was bummed when he told her he was still married and expecting another baby.
-----------> I'll see myself out now.

I loved Dean, but he is too good for her. I do love the shout out to his real life wife, Gen (iveve) with the name choice. She is pregnant again as well, though 3 not 4. That's all I got.