Post by RexManningDay on Dec 1, 2016 15:24:12 GMT -5
Respond in the affirmative if you'd want to sign up.
I'd do a poll but I need to make sure the yesses are from normal, decent, non-racist, non-Trumpy people.
And respond in the negative if you want to, I don't care. (Spoiler alert: this attitude is a preview of potential SS organizing!)
Really, I'm happy to do it. We'll need to move fast though if we want to make it happen.
ETA: Sorry, never mind. I'm going to bow out of my whim to facilitate. I think there's enough valid concern over the practice/reasoning that I'm not comfortable.
Post by karmasabiotch on Dec 1, 2016 15:39:58 GMT -5
Both my personalities vote YES!
I just don't want someone that turns out to be a racist, anti overweight weight people, judgmental, thinks she knows it all, 20 year old bitch again. That year SUCKED for me.
I'm the crazy person making demands now, aren't I?
I'm growing older but not up. My metabolic rate is pleasantly stuck, let the winds of time blow over my head. I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead.
I definitely would. I'm new but I've been trying to chime in and post more. I'm a pretty average mid 30's girl.....I love secret santa stuff and have a solid track record for sending thoughtful gifts on time. I would be no trouble for the organizer!
I just don't want someone that turns out to be a racist, anti overweight weight people, judgmental, thinks she knows it all, 20 year old bitch again. That year SUCKED for me.
I'm the crazy person making demands now, aren't I?
What? Who was this?
Her name just popped into my head. JJWriters girl. She talked about heavy people needing someone to hold their stomach fat up with a broomstick so they could have sex (not that heavy people usually have sex according to her) and then she talked about Jewish and Hispanic people and threw in some other awful thoughts. We chased her away and she was posting on a different board at one point. I don't know if she's still around.
I bought her such fun things, but I did throw in a box of Matzo Ball soup mix so I could be passive aggressive. The racist stuff happened after Secret Santa. I remember pm'ing His#1 so I could vent about ending up with her.
Post by karmasabiotch on Dec 1, 2016 16:17:47 GMT -5
Last year was awful and there is a chance their could be awfulness this year since this is ML, but so many posters have had a tough year and while we can't screen out all of the crazies, having a box of fun in the mail is a pick me up, imho.
Post by kevin arnold on Dec 1, 2016 16:19:04 GMT -5
I recall many women of color saying that they would not participate in SS exchanges on this board. Do you really think it's a good idea to go ahead with it because a vote of white women say they want to do it anyway?
Post by RexManningDay on Dec 1, 2016 16:27:25 GMT -5
You know, you guys (@licia and kevin arnold) are right. Never mind. I was just thinking it would be easy enough to facilitate quickly because I've seen it brought up a few times, but I'm not really behind it.
Apologies, everyone - I didn't really think. If someone else wants to take over, feel free!
We made 11d global mod. We did something good this year, wait I take that back.
I didn't respond before, but yeah I'm poorer than poor. Homemade dinner I don't give BF grief about and sex is all I can do this year. My own family knows better, minus my sister who wants me to pull $90 out of the sky. Okayyy.
Her name just popped into my head. JJWriters girl. She talked about heavy people needing someone to hold their stomach fat up with a broomstick so they could have sex (not that heavy people usually have sex according to her) and then she talked about Jewish and Hispanic people and threw in some other awful thoughts. We chased her away and she was posting on a different board at one point. I don't know if she's still around.
I bought her such fun things, but I did throw in a box of Matzo Ball soup mix so I could be passive aggressive. The racist stuff happened after Secret Santa. I remember pm'ing His#1 so I could vent about ending up with her.
Oh yeah, she maybe changed names or went to another board. Sorry:(
Her name just popped into my head. JJWriters girl. She talked about heavy people needing someone to hold their stomach fat up with a broomstick so they could have sex (not that heavy people usually have sex according to her) and then she talked about Jewish and Hispanic people and threw in some other awful thoughts. We chased her away and she was posting on a different board at one point. I don't know if she's still around.
I bought her such fun things, but I did throw in a box of Matzo Ball soup mix so I could be passive aggressive. The racist stuff happened after Secret Santa. I remember pm'ing His#1 so I could vent about ending up with her.
Oh yeah, she maybe changed names or went to another board. Sorry:(
Yeah, I honestly think it's too risky. Most of us have good intentions toward others, but we just never know and can not risk someone being tormented, disrespected or having their safety or privacy jeopardized.
Last year was awful and there is a chance their could be awfulness this year since this is ML, but so many posters have had a tough year and while we can't screen out all of the crazies, having a box of fun in the mail is a pick me up, imho.
This reads as really self-absorbed to me. Yes, a lot of people had a tough year. But a lot of people were victimized by members of this board. It's a celebration of everyone who wasn't personally harmed by the board and still feels positive enough about ML to participate in a gift exchange. The idea of it has me shaking my head and thinking, "More of the same."
I've been called self absorbed before and I'm sure I will be again. I never considered that the thought of sending a present and getting a present would be offensive or shameful in anyway.
I've been too self absorbed with reassuring my son that the killer clowns wont kidnap and kill us because we are Jewish.
This reads as really self-absorbed to me. Yes, a lot of people had a tough year. But a lot of people were victimized by members of this board. It's a celebration of everyone who wasn't personally harmed by the board and still feels positive enough about ML to participate in a gift exchange. The idea of it has me shaking my head and thinking, "More of the same."
I've been called self absorbed before and I'm sure I will be again. I never considered that the thought of sending a present and getting a present would be offensive or shameful in anyway.
I've been too self absorbed with reassuring my son that the killer clowns wont kidnap and kill us because we are Jewish.
I agree with Karma. We were just excited about sending/receiving something fun in the mail because year two of widowhood has been absolutely sucky. I guess I fall into the self-absorbed camp, too. I'm not sure how I'd make it thru widowhood without Karma. I'm thankful for her friendship.
Last year was awful and there is a chance their could be awfulness this year since this is ML, but so many posters have had a tough year and while we can't screen out all of the crazies, having a box of fun in the mail is a pick me up, imho.
This reads as really self-absorbed to me. Yes, a lot of people had a tough year. But a lot of people were victimized by members of this board. It's a celebration of everyone who wasn't personally harmed by the board and still feels positive enough about ML to participate in a gift exchange. The idea of it has me shaking my head and thinking, "More of the same."
Man, that is so harsh. Many people have had a horrible year, including karmasabiotch. Some posters would like to participate in SS. I don't think they need to be put down for wanting a little fun. Participation isn't mandatory.
Last year was awful and there is a chance their could be awfulness this year since this is ML, but so many posters have had a tough year and while we can't screen out all of the crazies, having a box of fun in the mail is a pick me up, imho.
This reads as really self-absorbed to me. Yes, a lot of people had a tough year. But a lot of people were victimized by members of this board. It's a celebration of everyone who wasn't personally harmed by the board and still feels positive enough about ML to participate in a gift exchange. The idea of it has me shaking my head and thinking, "More of the same."
I think it's entirely possible to feel the way that you do about SS without minimizing Karma's experiences this year.
What happened to suggestions of making an impact with this money this year? $25 per person, plus wrapping and all the little extras and shipping, board wide, adds up fast. Put your money where your mouths are. Do something decent and don't even post about it. Merry Christmas.
Oh come the fuck on. No one has to participate in secret Santa, nor does participating have to mean we aren't also doing Important Things with our money. This feels like a whole lot like sending a bench- - hollow gesture intended to make us all feel better for harboring a racist instead of just doing what people have asked, which is, you know, not harboring racists.
Secret Santa is not the problem. And with that said, I'm in if someone wants to organize it.
Post by sparkythelawyer on Dec 2, 2016 9:42:28 GMT -5
I think it is entirely possible to say "I'd rather not participate" without throwing insults Karma's way. We probably don't have enough posters to make this worth doing anymore anyway.
Oh come the fuck on. No one has to participate in secret Santa, nor does participating have to mean we aren't also doing Important Things with our money. This feels like a whole lot like sending a bench- - hollow gesture intended to make us all feel better for harboring a racist instead of just doing what people have asked, which is, you know, not harboring racists.
Secret Santa is not the problem. And with that said, I'm in if someone wants to organize it.
If there's still interest, I can set something up. I might need some help in vetting participants.