My heart is with everyone in the path of the storm. Worried sick about everyone, especially my family. My mom is getting upset since there are tornadoes close to her already. I am so, so upset. I should have pushed harder earlier this week for everyone to come up.
Is this a non Floridian thing? Why do people flee to a coast? Or from one coast to another? Do they not realize that going a 2 hour drive away still keeps you in risk zone? Like they don't realize such small distances?
I've seen stories of going from Miami to Naples. Why?! Were they not there in the last few decades that went across the state from one city to another? These aren't huge distances.
Why leave Orlando for coastal Tampa?
I'll sound judgmental, but I'm really plain confused.
My mother left Ft. Myers for Tampa along with my 93 year old grandfather and her dog because my sister lives in Tampa with her three children. My sister has cancer and her husband is out of town and her children are all under the age of nine. Obviously this is anecdotal, but she went to be with my sister.
When they realized Tampa was looking increasingly at risk, they evacuated to Orlando
I think people have a variety of reasons for the choices they make.
I hope everyone is safe, and that your sister has what she needs.
I am from Pinellas County (St. Pete, now in NY) and almost everyone I know is riding out the storm. Now I am really effing worried. I do have a friend who got out to Alabama a few days ago and another who left this morning for northern GA so at least they are out, and my sister left Miami on Wednesday. The west coast is almost always OK, the only time I ever evacuated was during Elena. This is awful (honestly though, unless it miraculously goes to the Atlantic, it is going to be awful for someone).
Post by mrs.jacinthe on Sept 9, 2017 19:53:44 GMT -5
My husband's boss actually flew into Tampa yesterday to help his parents batten down because they refuse to leave their (mandatory evacuation) home. He has a wife and a 5 year old who is obsessed with weather, so the kid is fully aware of where dad is and what the dangers are. I'm so worried for him/them.
Is this a non Floridian thing? Why do people flee to a coast? Or from one coast to another? Do they not realize that going a 2 hour drive away still keeps you in risk zone? Like they don't realize such small distances?
I've seen stories of going from Miami to Naples. Why?! Were they not there in the last few decades that went across the state from one city to another? These aren't huge distances.
Why leave Orlando for coastal Tampa?
I'll sound judgmental, but I'm really plain confused.
I don't understand either, although I know for many people just getting a few miles inland is all they can do.
A dear friend of mine lives in Homestead (north of Key Largo) and evacuated to New Port Richey (north of Tampa) when the track was looking like it would go up the east coast of FL. So now he's stuck riding it out on the west coast which will likely get hit just as hard. We invited him to come stay with us in Atlanta and I wish he had come 😞
I realize I'm painting with a wide geographic brush. Going to Tampa doesn't mean going to oceanfront. Sorry. I don't know why i thought that when I've gone from coast city to inland part of city.
I realize it would sound dumb to many to say evacuating Miami to Miami but it's entirely pragmatic. I've pushed going just a few miles inland
Sorry. Brain fried about a week ago. And I'm not personally dealing with shit!
I still have a hard time wrapping my brain around driving hours to a place not likely safer with no family to accept. But those are probably just rare stories on tv.
ETA going inland to me isn't minimal. It's the best. Get away from coasts. That's why I ask if FL response.
Or is my family just old salts like that guy in the keys on msnbc and I have too much boater boatbuilder in my blood.
Ps if any know Charles/ Andy Stanley I have personal Caribbean hurricane anecdotes, in a good way, if you're interested. I trust Andy (not his boring ass dad) and you know I'm strongly atheist.
Ok tsunamis are seismic. Hurricanes are not. Don't catastrophize what's already scary.
Just a spring tide can cause regular flooding.
Surge is scary enough and dangerous. It's not a tsunami. Size and power are different. Causes are entirely different. The ocean floor in fl gives a very different response than Japan or west coast us. Parallels based only on high water help nothing.
Ok tsunamis are seismic. Hurricanes are not. Don't catastrophize what's already scary.
Just a spring tide can cause regular flooding.
Surge is scary enough and dangerous. It's not a tsunami. Size and power are different. Causes are entirely different. The ocean floor in fl gives a very different response than Japan or west coast us. Parallels based only on high water help nothing.
I should have pushed harder earlier this week for everyone to come up.
Please don't do this to yourself. (The same goes for all others who have family who made decisions that worry you.) They are adults. They have researched and prepared & made the decision that they feel is best for them right now. You can ask them to leave, but chances are really good that once they made up their minds, no amount of pushing from others would have changed that. Be worried about them, send them all of your positive energy/thoughts/prayers, etc...but please don't carry the burden of another adult's decision.
sushi, I'd love to hear your Andy Stanley connection. I've done several of his studies & usually really like what he has to say. I'd love to hear that he has "walked the walk" instead of just "talked the talk" (ahem...Osteen, I'm looking at you, fool!).
Is this a non Floridian thing? Why do people flee to a coast? Or from one coast to another? Do they not realize that going a 2 hour drive away still keeps you in risk zone? Like they don't realize such small distances?
I've seen stories of going from Miami to Naples. Why?! Were they not there in the last few decades that went across the state from one city to another? These aren't huge distances.
Why leave Orlando for coastal Tampa?
I'll sound judgmental, but I'm really plain confused.
I don't understand either, although I know for many people just getting a few miles inland is all they can do.
A dear friend of mine lives in Homestead (north of Key Largo) and evacuated to New Port Richey (north of Tampa) when the track was looking like it would go up the east coast of FL. So now he's stuck riding it out on the west coast which will likely get hit just as hard. We invited him to come stay with us in Atlanta and I wish he had come 😞
Part of his is that this storm was originally projected to go up the East coast of FL. Then the middle of FL. Now they're on the West coast. It may now skim the west coast and go into the Panhandle.
There are so many variables that go into predicting the path of these storms it is so hard to tell people very far in advance where they will exactly hit.
Ok tsunamis are seismic. Hurricanes are not. Don't catastrophize what's already scary.
Just a spring tide can cause regular flooding.
Surge is scary enough and dangerous. It's not a tsunami. Size and power are different. Causes are entirely different. The ocean floor in fl gives a very different response than Japan or west coast us. Parallels based only on high water help nothing.
No, she is talking to me. Tsunami was the wrong word- you are right sushi, I am sorry but I have seen water retreat like that, and come back in a fucking fury and I was lucky not to be on the beach. I hope it is nothing major but I do think it is something to be concerned about especially if people are out there taking videos.
Thinking of and praying for all you ladies and your loved ones. I am in the Midwest but have friends and family all over FL. My youngest brother is a LEO in Boca so he's there for the duration
I know I'm just a lurker on this board, but if your brother needs anything, I'm in Boca and have a TON of supplies. Please PM me if he needs anything.
Thank you so much! That's very kind. I will pass the message along for sure.
Is this a non Floridian thing? Why do people flee to a coast? Or from one coast to another? Do they not realize that going a 2 hour drive away still keeps you in risk zone? Like they don't realize such small distances?
I've seen stories of going from Miami to Naples. Why?! Were they not there in the last few decades that went across the state from one city to another? These aren't huge distances.
Why leave Orlando for coastal Tampa?
I'll sound judgmental, but I'm really plain confused.
As a native Floridian, I'll chime in:
I think it has a lot to do with experience over a lifetime with hurricanes in Florida. I know first hand that 5 miles from an old Florida house (think wood frame and big porches) to a new construction, ranch could be a matter of life and death. 40 miles saved my home and family in Hurricane Charley. Being away from the direct line of impact of a hurricane, can make a difference.
Real life anecdote from today - my dear college friend, her husband and young son agree they were staying in a new construction, inland concrete house in Fort Myers. They woke up this morning and panicked, said we have to leave. They drove 3 hours east to family in West Palm Beach. Will they have hurricane weather? Yes, of course, but their home and family are not in the eye of a forecasted Cat 5 storm. WPB > than current location. Leaving flood prone south Tampa for Orlando is a better option. Going from Venice to Gainesville could save a family's life.
I have many, many friends who have left SWFL for the East Coast or Orlando or north. The hurricane will be everywhere, there is often not enough time or resources to get farther away. But sort of safer is better than nothing. It's also such a crapshoot that you have to make a decision. Any decision. You just hope you're right.
Post by redheadbaker on Sept 9, 2017 22:30:18 GMT -5
My cousin's husband is a videocamera operator for the local ABC affiliate, and he's in Naples right now. I'm very nervous for him, and for my cousin and his kids back here.
Is this a non Floridian thing? Why do people flee to a coast? Or from one coast to another? Do they not realize that going a 2 hour drive away still keeps you in risk zone? Like they don't realize such small distances?
I've seen stories of going from Miami to Naples. Why?! Were they not there in the last few decades that went across the state from one city to another? These aren't huge distances.
Why leave Orlando for coastal Tampa?
I'll sound judgmental, but I'm really plain confused.
As a native Floridian, I'll chime in:
I think it has a lot to do with experience over a lifetime with hurricanes in Florida. I know first hand that 5 miles from an old Florida house (think wood frame and big porches) to a new construction, ranch could be a matter of life and death. 40 miles saved my home and family in Hurricane Charley. Being away from the direct line of impact of a hurricane, can make a difference.
Real life anecdote from today - my dear college friend, her husband and young son agree they were staying in a new construction, inland concrete house in Fort Myers. They woke up this morning and panicked, said we have to leave. They drove 3 hours east to family in West Palm Beach. Will they have hurricane weather? Yes, of course, but their home and family are not in the eye of a forecasted Cat 5 storm. WPB > than current location. Leaving flood prone south Tampa for Orlando is a better option. Going from Venice to Gainesville could save a family's life.
I have many, many friends who have left SWFL for the East Coast or Orlando or north. The hurricane will be everywhere, there is often not enough time or resources to get farther away. But sort of safer is better than nothing. It's also such a crapshoot that you have to make a decision. Any decision. You just hope you're right.
agreed....the path of this storm 48-72 hours out was still very unpredictable & the cone of possibility very large....I get that both east & west coast were options for a direct hit a few days ago, with various forecasts going back and forth about the middle or highest probability of hitting between both coasts. I do believe we had much more warning & lead time with this storm than maybe we had in the past and the models are getting better at predictions. I don't think people realized (or properly understood??) the uncertainly in path & the sheer size of the storm...like even if it hits "over there" (whatever coast or side they were NOT on), they were still going to be getting a massive storm