so basically, it is full of nuance that people should be aware of, but the GOP is banking on the dumb fucks that support them. and it will work!
Yep, the blithering idiots like the guy my SIL married believe it's proof of the Deep State/corruption and a rigged election for Hillary. Mind you, he also believes the train crash the other day was a planned attack and attempt to kill all the congressmen on board, so...
It really adds insult to injury how dumb all this is. Like it’s bad enough they are doing all this shit but is fucking insulting that they are so bad at it and dumb. It’s like when your favorite basketball team plays down to the level of their opponent and almost loses or loses.
It really adds insult to injury how dumb all this is. Like it’s bad enough they are doing all this shit but is fucking insulting that they are so bad at it and dumb. It’s like when your favorite basketball team plays down to the level of their opponent and almost loses or loses.
Right?? It's like....if you're going to collude with Russia, obstruct justice, and everything else - at least be GOOD at it!!!!!
I can’t get it to load again, but I missed this. Can you elaborate?
From the last paragraph (and weird that this memo is a numbered list that then just stops with no conclusion, but I digress):
5. The Page FISA application also mentions information regarding fellow Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos, but there is no evidence of any cooperation or conspiracy between Page and Papadopoulos. The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok.
Emphasis mine; goes on to throw shade about Strzok text messages, as one would expect.
The whole motive behind the memo is SO obvious: Frame the FBI. It's such a hit job. That Papadopoulos thing proves it. It's a red herring to their FISA warrant shit, and the fact doesn't help their case, but they put it in because that's the only way they could figure out how to draw a bullseye on Strzok.
It really adds insult to injury how dumb all this is. Like it’s bad enough they are doing all this shit but is fucking insulting that they are so bad at it and dumb. It’s like when your favorite basketball team plays down to the level of their opponent and almost loses or loses.
the GOP is the butt fumble.
I’ve never once considered changing my name on here but now I kind of want a username that incorporates GOP and butt fumble.
I don't understand the Papadopoulos thing. Is the memo saying that Papa... was named in the FISA warrant for CP, and that's why the investigation into him was opened? But the investigation into GP was opened in July 2016, and I thought the first FISA warrant at issue was in October 2016. Am I missing something in the timeline? It seems like the memo wants us to believe that GP's name was thrown into the FISA warrant application just to trigger an investigation into him. But he was already under investigation.
I don't understand the Papadopoulos thing. Is the memo saying that Papa... was named in the FISA warrant for CP, and that's why the investigation into him was opened? But the investigation into GP was opened in July 2016, and I thought the first FISA warrant at issue was in October 2016. Am I missing something in the timeline? It seems like the memo wants us to believe that GP's name was thrown into the FISA warrant application just to trigger an investigation into him. But he was already under investigation.
What am I misreading?
I think that’s the whole point. It’s illogical and nonsensical so Fox News devotees will talk themselves in circles for bizarreo conspiracy theories thinking they’ve figured out how Obama tried to ruin their great white hope, Trump. It’s basically like pizzagate. The more you try to figure it out the dumber you feel.
Maybe the FBI didn't want this memo released because they knew how stupid Nunes would look after people saw it. Maybe they were actually trying to help Nunes this whole time!!!
(I don't actually believe that, because I'm sure lots of people are freaking out about this damn thing and don't see it the way we all do, but its fun to pretend.)
I don't understand the Papadopoulos thing. Is the memo saying that Papa... was named in the FISA warrant for CP, and that's why the investigation into him was opened? But the investigation into GP was opened in July 2016, and I thought the first FISA warrant at issue was in October 2016. Am I missing something in the timeline? It seems like the memo wants us to believe that GP's name was thrown into the FISA warrant application just to trigger an investigation into him. But he was already under investigation.
What am I misreading?
FISA warrants come up for renewal (every 90 days I think). There are multiple applications. CP’s first one was back in 2013.
I'm skimming through because I was supposed to be out the door twenty minutes ago but yeah, this is going to get eaten up by the Fox viewers.
I haven't read the memo and am not well-versed in Steele/Fusion GPS. But that statement, for example: is it one of those "material omissions" because the reason Steele said he was desperate that Trump not be elected because he thought Trump was compromised by Russia, and not because of any anti-Republican bias?
Because being desperate to stop what you view as a threat to the security of the country (i.e. a person who is in the pocket of a foreign power who might act in their, and against American, interests) and being desperate to stop someone because "Republicans suck" are two very. different. things.
My thoughts exactly. If Steele is a legitimate source (and I think he is), then I can totally understand why he would say that and be saying it because he has real concerns about Trump’s intentions.
I don't understand the Papadopoulos thing. Is the memo saying that Papa... was named in the FISA warrant for CP, and that's why the investigation into him was opened? But the investigation into GP was opened in July 2016, and I thought the first FISA warrant at issue was in October 2016. Am I missing something in the timeline? It seems like the memo wants us to believe that GP's name was thrown into the FISA warrant application just to trigger an investigation into him. But he was already under investigation.
What am I misreading?
FISA warrants come up for renewal (every 90 days I think). There are multiple applications. CP’s first one was back in 2013.
Right....so was Papadopoulous mentioned in an earlier application? Is that what is supposed to be the big deal?
And I guess it does not serve Nunes's point for the fact that CP had been under investigation for years, because I think we are supposed to think that he only came under investigation because of the Dossier. And that the only reason Trump is being investigated is because of Carter Page?
Guys. It gets even better. Carter Page had left the Trump campaign by October.
Pwn All The Things @pwnallthethings
And there we go. The only date that matters. Confirms that all of this happened *after* Page left the campaign. What a waste of everyone's time this whole episode was.
It really adds insult to injury how dumb all this is. Like it’s bad enough they are doing all this shit but is fucking insulting that they are so bad at it and dumb. It’s like when your favorite basketball team plays down to the level of their opponent and almost loses or loses.
Post by bitsandpieces on Feb 2, 2018 14:06:11 GMT -5
Only on page 2 (I swear I can't keep up with this nonsense) but I have a question.
The GOP's big issue with using Steele as a source is that he was paid (however indirectly) by HRC and has anti-Trump bias. But I can see several scenarios where something starts out as opposition research and the researcher stumbles upon something that they believe is a legitimate National Security concern. Isn't turning that info and those concerns over to the FBI, a non-partisan entity responsible for such issues, the responsible and patriotic thing to do?
Are the GOP saying that Steele should not have shared his concerns with the FBI? Are they saying that the FBI shouldn't have taken action to investigate those concerns, especially since other sources corroborated the information? What do they think should have happened? I don't understand.