Hurricane Ian

[estrellita]

My aunt and uncle are in the Orlando area (can't remember what city they actually live in, could be LBV as they can see Magic Kingdom from their place). I didn't realize it might hit them somewhat hard! I figured they'd be OK further in. My other aunt and uncle were supposed to be in Tampa but are on the east coast with friends. I guess H's flight was canceled (I posted earlier about how he was supposed to be there on a work trip) and that's the main reason they didn't go, which is good.

I was on Twitter watching some of the footage and it's just insane.

[pixy0stix]

Ian hasn't made landfall yet, right? That's sometime tonight?

[Pom]

They just called land fall at Cayo Costa. It is a barrier island. And mentioned it might have ETA: another land fall.  First land fall was in Cuba.

Cayo Costa is a beautiful state park accessible by boat. I was lucky enough to go there with my parents in the past. The good news is it was evacuated.  What a terrifying storm this is.
 
www.floridastateparks.org/CayoCosta

[rubytue]

Sept 28, 2022 14:14:59 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Ian hasn't made landfall yet, right? That's sometime tonight?

just called it at 3:0something around captiva island. 

I discovered the VUit roku app, which is letting me watch WINK from ft myer es. 

edit: they keep saying thing like “hunker down, treat this like a tornado that is going to last an hour or so. Then it’ll get sunny, but that’s not it. Another tornado is coming.” 😭

[pixy0stix]

I asked too soon. Thanks all

[rubytue]

pixy0stix,but only by minutes. It’s so big and not moving quickly. It’s kind of unreal watching it happen during the day. It seems like many come overnight and eventually sleep take over (for me, watching).

[ESF]

My sister lives in Naples, and I'm getting a little freaked out. 

I texted her this morning, and she said they weren't in an evacuation zone and were far enough inland.



I looked at a map and their house is 15 miles from the beach. According to Collier County's evacatuation map, they are in Zone E, and only Zone A (I'd guess a mile or so from the coast?) were ordered to evacuate. 

The footage from Naples looks awful, and I'm getting concerned. I assume that footage is primarily focused on the areas closest to the shore, but I don't have any sense of what is happening or what the risks are a little further inland.  

There are probably tens of thousands of people in between Zone A and Zone E where my sister lives that would not have been under evacuation orders.  

I assume no power, and some risks of flooding, but the concept of flooding covers a wide range of stuff, and it's hard to know what this really means - both for her, and for the tens of thousands of people who weren't instructed to evacuate.

Does anyone have a sense of what is happening or is likely to happen in these low lying conce you get away from the mile or two closest to the shore?

Thanks!

[chickadee77]

Sept 28, 2022 14:34:14 GMT -5 ESF said:

My sister lives in Naples, and I'm getting a little freaked out. 

I texted her this morning, and she said they weren't in an evacuation zone and were far enough inland.



I looked at a map and their house is 15 miles from the beach. According to Collier County's evacatuation map, they are in Zone E, and only Zone A (I'd guess a mile or so from the coast?) were ordered to evacuate. 

The footage from Naples looks awful, and I'm getting concerned. I assume that footage is primarily focused on the areas closest to the shore, but I don't have any sense of what is happening or what the risks are a little further inland.  

There are probably tens of thousands of people in between Zone A and Zone E where my sister lives that would not have been under evacuation orders.  

I assume no power, and some risks of flooding, but the concept of flooding covers a wide range of stuff, and it's hard to know what this really means - both for her, and for the tens of thousands of people who weren't instructed to evacuate.

Does anyone have a sense of what is happening or is likely to happen in these low lying conce you get away from the mile or two closest to the shore?

Thanks!

We just moved from Naples and still have a house/boat in Marco, so we've been watching. Naples doesn't seem to be too bad - many places inland still have power, even. 15 miles inland is pretty far for storm surge, so as long as they can "hide from wind," they might be okay.

ETA ESF Just talked to a friend who lives near Immokalee & 951 and she said they still have power. Wind is pretty bad, but it's shifted so the coast is waiting for storm surge (shouldn't hit that far in, though)

[basilosaurus]

Sept 28, 2022 14:33:09 GMT -5 rubytue said:

pixy0stix ,but only by minutes. It’s so big and not moving quickly. It’s kind of unreal watching it happen during the day. It seems like many come overnight and eventually sleep take over (for me, watching).

That's certainly my association. Andrew made landfall at 4 or 5am, and we evacuated maybe 7p the night before.

A bunch of webcams here

www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-ne-hurricane-ian-webcam-livestream-florida-20220928-vksvibqwajaxzexghi3aof3zda-story.html

[basilosaurus]

Sept 28, 2022 14:39:22 GMT -5 chickadee77 said:

Sept 28, 2022 14:34:14 GMT -5 ESF said:

My sister lives in Naples, and I'm getting a little freaked out. 

I texted her this morning, and she said they weren't in an evacuation zone and were far enough inland.



I looked at a map and their house is 15 miles from the beach. According to Collier County's evacatuation map, they are in Zone E, and only Zone A (I'd guess a mile or so from the coast?) were ordered to evacuate. 

The footage from Naples looks awful, and I'm getting concerned. I assume that footage is primarily focused on the areas closest to the shore, but I don't have any sense of what is happening or what the risks are a little further inland.  

There are probably tens of thousands of people in between Zone A and Zone E where my sister lives that would not have been under evacuation orders.  

I assume no power, and some risks of flooding, but the concept of flooding covers a wide range of stuff, and it's hard to know what this really means - both for her, and for the tens of thousands of people who weren't instructed to evacuate.

Does anyone have a sense of what is happening or is likely to happen in these low lying conce you get away from the mile or two closest to the shore?

Thanks!

We just moved from Naples and still have a house/boat in Marco, so we've been watching. Naples doesn't seem to be too bad - many places inland still have power, even. 15 miles inland is pretty far for storm surge, so as long as they can "hide from wind," they might be okay.

Yes, this. The flooding risk would be due to rain, not surge. They may be under boil water orders at some point and without power. Zone E is likely where people from A are evacuating to. Damage to the roof is quite possible, so they could get interior water damage. 

[ESF]

basilosaurus, chickadee77, thanks for the info! The coverage doesn't really distinguish between the zones or get into specifics as to the differences in risk.

The Weather Channel should hire Steve Kornacki to work the map in granular detail.

[StrawberryBlondie]

My dad was able to get a hold of my aunt... Apparently they moved and weren't under an evacuation order at their new place. They're without power but otherwise well so far.

[glw]

Sept 28, 2022 13:05:28 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Sept 28, 2022 12:38:17 GMT -5 glw said:

Oh I hope they're okay! I don't get it either.
I keep looking at the maps and the 18' storm surge predicted right over their house.

Omg:(you said it’s their first hurricane? Idk, maybe they just don’t get it? The amount of anger/rage I have felt towards my mom when she has refused to leave, followed by the fear and anxiety that comes after when I can’t get in touch with her is some of the worst emotional shit I’ve been through. I have yet to make sense of what drives people’s decisions.

Yep, they just moved to FL in April. I think it's partially just not "getting it", partially that their neighbors were all pooh-poohing their concern, and also some kind of wishful, "well, our first hurricane can't be a big/noteable one" just because the unluckiness of that is...extreme. But, here we are.

[rubytue]

Well, the ILs just told us to keep our spare room open. One can have empathy and dread at the same time, right?

[mcppalmbeach]

My friend’s H is on a fema team and there is a lot of catastrophic damage. I feel terribly for what has happened there. I also worry for what this means for our homeowners insurance statewide which has become just prohibitively expensive for a lot of families over the past two years (even though we haven’t had a major storm here it has been impacted by storms in other places and fires out west as well). Just very sad all around.

[ggirl]

Sept 28, 2022 17:28:54 GMT -5 mcppalmbeach said:

My friend’s H is on a fema team and there is a lot of catastrophic damage. I feel terribly for what has happened there. I also worry for what this means for our homeowners insurance statewide which has become just prohibitively expensive for a lot of families over the past two years (even though we haven’t had a major storm here it has been impacted by storms in other places and fires out west as well). Just very sad all around.

A reporter asked desantis a question about this during a presser yesterday. Of course he had a non answer. We currently have insurance but I’m waiting for them to leave the state. We can’t get citizens yet because the cost differential isn’t big enough yet. So many of my friends have had to scramble for new insurance though.

[pixy0stix]

Sept 28, 2022 16:53:31 GMT -5 rubytue said:

Well, the ILs just told us to keep our spare room open. One can have empathy and dread at the same time, right?

I'd feel awful if my MIL lost her house, but at the same time I'd be working 24/7 trying to make sure she didn't come stay with me.

[AAM2012]

Sept 28, 2022 17:28:54 GMT -5 mcppalmbeach said:

My friend’s H is on a fema team and there is a lot of catastrophic damage. I feel terribly for what has happened there. I also worry for what this means for our homeowners insurance statewide which has become just prohibitively expensive for a lot of families over the past two years (even though we haven’t had a major storm here it has been impacted by storms in other places and fires out west as well). Just very sad all around.

2 years??

No it’s been 15+ years at minimum…one could argue since shortly after Andrew. We lived there until ~9 years ago and had only 2 options: Citizens or a small company that we hoped wouldn’t go insolvent if we had a major event.

It is an absolute horrible state for both homeowners and auto insurance.

The Florida government doesn’t do anything to bridge the gap and even goes out of the way to make things more expensive for P&C companies from an auto perspective (ahem mandatory PIP, insurance fraud, etc….all which lines their pockets) which also greatly impacts their ability to even try and provide any type of homeowners coverage even in central Florida locations.

This problem will continue to get worse and FEMA will continue to have to try and help more and more when a catastrophe happens.

I’ll get off my soap box now :-)

Got a text from my dads neighbor (dad doesn’t have a cell). They lost power about 1/2 hour before actual landfall. Many trees down, neighbor lost roof and all porch/pool cages are either severely damaged or gone.

Now they are waiting to see how flood/storm surge might go…in the middle of the night..as they’re close to the Caloosahatchee River.

I’m just thankful my (“frugal”) dad spent the money to get hurricane windows, garage and eventually was forced to get a new roof in the last 5 years.

[Velar Fricative]

I hope everyone who's no longer in direct harm's way is safe. I'm so sorry for what the aftermath will look like though.

[glw]

Update on my friend in Punta Gorda: She, her bf, and dog are safe. We texted when we could last night but cell service is spotty. They didn't have water coming into the house which is good, but they could hear lots of debris hitting the house, and then the wind changed and the other side of the house took a beating. Their boat didn't sink or blow away which is a miracle. They have a generator and plenty of water so now they start to assess the extent of the damage.

[noodleoo]

My mom texted this morning and it looks like it wasn't too bad where they were! The track took the eye south of them, putting them on the less windy side. They got a lot of rain, but otherwise appear to have escaped the worst.

[rubytue]

So, no updates from my ILs (which is partially an H problem that I won’t clutter this thread with).

But now that it’s the day after, pictures are starting to come out. And just 😭😭 Also, I hate that disinformation is so prevalent these days, in that this looks to me like it is a causeway, and this guy claims to have credentials. But, is it the sanibel causeway? Is it from this storm?

[Velar Fricative]

rubytue, I saw similar photos and reports that Sanibel Island is isolated due to the bridge destruction. Hopefully it's safe now for boats to get there for rescues and recoveries.

[Vespasia]

My mom is in Ft. Myers. Her neighborhood had a lot of damage but her house is untouched. She even has power back already.

My brother lives on Pine Island and it sounds like the bridge there has also been damaged. He's not sure when he can go back and doesn't expect there to be much left when he does. I have no idea if he has renters insurance or if it would even cover this sort of thing.

[hermione]

FIL's condo in Ft Myers took minimal damage - the ceiling of the car port is pretty torn up. I cannot believe it wasn't far worse. He was home in Indiana but several of his FL neighbors rode the storm out in their bathrooms.

[osulori]

One of my husband's best friends lives in Ft. Myers as does his brother. Brother has been updating via FB when able and J spoke to bestie this morning-both are safe, but brother's house is likely going to need a new roof (storm surge didn't reach it thankfully) but parts of the theater brother directs for took on some waist deep water from the surge since it's only a block from the river. Bestie and brother were on their way to bestie's place to check on the damage when J talked to him so no word on that yet.

BIL is a pilot also and his flight down that way hasn't been cancelled yet.  My sister is NOT happy. 

[agnes]

Sept 29, 2022 8:34:18 GMT -5 rubytue said:

So, no updates from my ILs (which is partially an H problem that I won’t clutter this thread with).

But now that it’s the day after, pictures are starting to come out. And just 😭😭 Also, I hate that disinformation is so prevalent these days, in that this looks to me like it is a causeway, and this guy claims to have credentials. But, is it the sanibel causeway? Is it from this storm?

This was on the news this morning, the reporter standing in front of it kept referring to it as the Sanibel bridge?  And that it was indeed from this storm. 

[Susie]

rubytue,

www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2022/09/29/hurricane-ian-damage-florida-live-updates/#link-OC7TVARLSJGWDMAURSYJVIDD3Y 

Gage Goulding, a local reporter for NBC in southwest Florida, said on Twitter that an “approximately 50-65 foot section” of Bridge A of the Sanibel Causeway, which is closest to the mainland, had “fallen into the Gulf of Mexico.”

[basilosaurus]

www.npr.org/live-updates/hurricane-ian-tracker-florida-damage-09-29-2022

I haven't heard from my dad this morning, and he may not have gotten an update from neighbors yet, but they're in a waterfront condo. I can't imagine the whole area escaped being underwater. Their individual condo is not ground level, but the car was parked there.

NPR update says the bridge to Sanibel and the Naples pier are out. If they're gone it would be a miracle if the docks where they tie up their boat are still solid.

[Velar Fricative]

www.nytimes.com/live/2022/09/29/us/hurricane-ian-florida/4c446295-69b4-54a2-8e76-48c77bf03823?smid=url-share

"Two bridges in southwest Florida, the Sanibel Causeway and Pine Island bridge, were not passable and would require “structural rebuilds,” Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida said. The state has deployed 100 engineers, working in teams of two, to inspect other bridges, he said."