@@@ ban on gas stoves being considered

[cattledogkisses]

Jan 14, 2023 13:26:07 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Jan 14, 2023 12:57:54 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

The problem is SO BIG from climate change preparedness to phasing out outmoded energy sources.

In general when I post I'm speaking to this audience on the board, which is mostly US based, mostly white, mostly upper middle class. So if I say that people should be looking at generators for emergency use if your grid is in danger, I mean this board. It's a warning and a prediction. Things are only going to get so much worse before they start getting better. Especially in certain states.

I have a whole house generator, but it’s also powered by natural gas, so is that not problematic?

We have a whole house generator that runs on propane.  I figure that an emergency device that only gets used rarely and for short periods of time is much less problematic than a gas appliance that gets used daily. 

I do admit that I don't have another solution though.

[mrspez07]

Article about heat pumps in cold climates (one example includes a mix of systems for backup and efficiency)

coloradosun.com/2023/01/26/heat-pumps-work-colorado/

[JayhawkGirl]

Jan 26, 2023 12:36:09 GMT -5 mrspez07 said:

Article about heat pumps in cold climates (one example includes a mix of systems for backup and efficiency)

coloradosun.com/2023/01/26/heat-pumps-work-colorado/

I’m in KC, so we get real winter temps every year. We built our house w/combo heat pumps with gas furnace backup. We primarily run on the heat pump until it gets super cold (teens?). When we switched to nest thermostats, we did have to pay a technician to install them bc the wiring is a bit complicated. That said, the company we had been working with messed it up, shorted one of our thermostats, came to replace it w a warranty replacement and flat out forgot to wire it up to the heat pump. DH called our hvac company and they gave him the code we needed to DIY and it’s all better.

[pixy0stix]

Heat pumps are defying Maine’s winters and oil industry pushback - wapo.st/3x7biIE

These articles tickle me a great deal. This one exposes just how hard the oil industry is trying to push out bad information.

[laurack]

We have gas heat but the system is very old and needs replacing. I’ve been considering a heat pump but heard some stories about them being “not sufficient” for very cold climates and was nervous. I feel like the info in this thread has been great and helped me realize it could work fine for us even though we have cold winters.


Our stove is electric though already.

[msmerymac]

Feb 7, 2023 17:10:37 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Heat pumps are defying Maine’s winters and oil industry pushback - wapo.st/3x7biIE

These articles tickle me a great deal. This one exposes just how hard the oil industry is trying to push out bad information.

I can't wait to move to Maine and get a heat pump. We also want a fireplace, so I'll have to research the best kind. Maybe a pellet stove? Maybe electric hooked up to something sustainable like solar?

[wesleycrusher]

www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-ban-gas-stoves-new-residential-construction/

New York has officially become the first U.S. state to ban gas stoves from new residential building construction.
The law also bans furnaces and propane heating.

Under the new law, all-electric heating and cooking is required in new buildings shorter than seven stories by 2026, and in buildings taller than seven stories by 2029 — but is designed to largely impact residential buildings, with exceptions in place for commercial and industrial buildings such as restaurants and stores.

[msmerymac]

Oh hey! Since this has been revived - I still live in PA but we just got a heat pump installed this week. I'm SO impressed by the even temps upstairs now (my office/smallest bedroom had no heat or vents, so I've been using a stand-alone space heater and AC combo unit for the last 3 years). We've been told it will work to -5 F. We have a mini split in the living room too.

[simpsongal]

May 5, 2023 9:09:05 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Oh hey! Since this has been revived - I still live in PA but we just got a heat pump installed this week. I'm SO impressed by the even temps upstairs now (my office/smallest bedroom had no heat or vents, so I've been using a stand-alone space heater and AC combo unit for the last 3 years). We've been told it will work to -5 F. We have a mini split in the living room too.

Do you have it zoned in the house and like other mini splits?  I'm starting to think about going w/a heat pump when we do our next kitchen/1st floor reno.  We need to replace our water heater too....so we could just stop using natural gas all together.

[msmerymac]

May 5, 2023 12:24:06 GMT -5 simpsongal said:

May 5, 2023 9:09:05 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Oh hey! Since this has been revived - I still live in PA but we just got a heat pump installed this week. I'm SO impressed by the even temps upstairs now (my office/smallest bedroom had no heat or vents, so I've been using a stand-alone space heater and AC combo unit for the last 3 years). We've been told it will work to -5 F. We have a mini split in the living room too.

Do you have it zoned in the house and like other mini splits?  I'm starting to think about going w/a heat pump when we do our next kitchen/1st floor reno.  We need to replace our water heater too....so we could just stop using natural gas all together.

We don't, but our furnace wasn't zoned either. My in-laws have 2 mini splits, one in their great room and one in their bedroom, that are totally separate since they live in a split level and the rooms are pretty far away from each other anyway. 

[pixy0stix]

GOP cooks up a new storm on gas stove rules - www.politico.com/news/2023/05/24/republicans-gas-stove-rules-00098430


I wish the Biden administration was better at rolling out initiatives. Not that it would have made any difference in this case, I don't think.