Titanic tourist submersible goes missing

[Michelle]

An employee at my local news station did the dive in one of James Cameron’s submersibles 20 yrs ago at age 19 as a reporter. Here is a video of him explaining the experience. www.click2houston.com/video/news/2023/06/23/kprcs-derrick-shore-traveled-in-a-submersible-to-visit-the-titanic-wreckage-more-than-20-years-ago-heres-what-he-recalls/

[Jalapeñomel]

How crazy is it that the director of a movie about the Titanic (albeit other movies as well lol) in the 90s is seemingly the expert on submarines. 🤣

[klee23]

Jun 24, 2023 13:23:15 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

How crazy is it that the director of a movie about the Titanic (albeit other movies as well lol) in the 90s is seemingly the expert on submarines. 🤣

CNN linked a James Cameron playboy interview from 2009 where he said "“I made ‘Titanic’ because I wanted to dive to the shipwreck, not because I particularly wanted to make the movie,” he told Playboy in 2009."

When you frame it in that light makes a whole lot of sense. He also said he's made ~30 dives to the Titanic himself?

www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/entertainment/james-cameron-deep-sea-dive/index.html

[joy]

Jun 24, 2023 13:28:07 GMT -5 klee23 said:

Jun 24, 2023 13:23:15 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

How crazy is it that the director of a movie about the Titanic (albeit other movies as well lol) in the 90s is seemingly the expert on submarines. 🤣

CNN linked a James Cameron playboy interview from 2009 where he said "“I made ‘Titanic’ because I wanted to dive to the shipwreck, not because I particularly wanted to make the movie,” he told Playboy in 2009."

When you frame it in that light makes a whole lot of sense. He also said he's made ~30 dives to the Titanic himself?

www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/entertainment/james-cameron-deep-sea-dive/index.html

Cameron has also designed a submersible and then dove in it to Challenger Deep in the Mariana Trench. He seems to have a real and educated interest in underwater research/exploration.

I hear he’s an absolute prick but he knows his science when it comes to this subject.

EDIT - Hamish Harding also dove to Challenger Deep in a different submersible. Only a handful of people (7, I think) have gone down to that deepest part of the ocean.

[pixy0stix]

This may have been shared, but this YouTuber I follow was on Mission Three this year (the one lost was mission 5) that was scrubbed. He posted his experience - youtu.be/O-8U08yJlb8

[isabel]

Jun 23, 2023 9:03:42 GMT -5 pinkplasticdoll said:

Jun 23, 2023 8:40:05 GMT -5 chickadee77 said:

Not even time for an "Oh shit" probably.

someone on reddit did the math and basically there was no chance that they knew it was coming because of the rate which the brain takes to process vs the amount of time it would have taken to implode. Someone was like "well they might have heard cracking" and the response was basically at that depth the pressure is so great that they didnt even hear cracking, they literally were poofed without warning. Which would be my preferred way to go if I was in this situation. 

I'm honestly glad for all of them that they went this way, because throughout this whole thing, I had been thinking about how awful it would be to be down there knowing time was running out and contemplating suffocating to death. This really seems preferable.

I still think these people are all crazy for doing this.

[pixy0stix]

The remaining debris was recovered along with human remains - www.cnn.com/2023/10/10/us/titan-submersible-titanic-coast-guard-recovery/index.html

[dancingirl21]

Oh wow. I didn’t realize they were still looking for it. And human remains. 😳

[sonrisa]

Oct 10, 2023 19:27:13 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

The remaining debris was recovered along with human remains - www.cnn.com/2023/10/10/us/titan-submersible-titanic-coast-guard-recovery/index.html

I can't help but think one thing: The dead bodies of the wealthy get more government resources than many people living in desperation. 

[icedcoffee]

Oct 10, 2023 20:04:57 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Oct 10, 2023 19:27:13 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

The remaining debris was recovered along with human remains - www.cnn.com/2023/10/10/us/titan-submersible-titanic-coast-guard-recovery/index.html

I can't help but think one thing: The dead bodies of the wealthy get more government resources than many people living in desperation. 

Yeah--I'm glad some of the family got closure, but wooweee I would definitely prioritize those resources differently.

[aurora]

How did they find this but not the (much larger) MH 370?

[pixy0stix]

Oct 11, 2023 8:02:34 GMT -5 aurora said:

How did they find this but not the (much larger) MH 370?

Because aliens took the plane.

[meganew]

Oct 11, 2023 8:41:52 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Oct 11, 2023 8:02:34 GMT -5 aurora said:

How did they find this but not the (much larger) MH 370?

Because aliens took the plane.

We’re at a point with news that I don’t know whether or not you’re kidding

[kath16]

if there are human remains, does that mean that they didn't poof as quickly as originally thought?

[karinothing]

Oct 11, 2023 9:37:27 GMT -5 kath16 said:

if there are human remains, does that mean that they didn't poof as quickly as originally thought?

Not to be gross, but the remains could literally just be bone fragments. 

[pixy0stix]

Oct 11, 2023 9:04:51 GMT -5 meganew said:

Oct 11, 2023 8:41:52 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Because aliens took the plane.

We’re at a point with news that I don’t know whether or not you’re kidding

Frankly, I don't know if I am either, LOL! 

As far as I know, there has been no evidence of aliens taking the plane. That being said, the government has confirmed the existence of aliens this year, so...

[cattledogkisses]

This is a bit macabre, but I wouldn't have thought that there would be much left to recover, given the immense pressure at that depth.

[kath16]

Oct 11, 2023 9:42:16 GMT -5 karinothing said:

Oct 11, 2023 9:37:27 GMT -5 kath16 said:

if there are human remains, does that mean that they didn't poof as quickly as originally thought?

Not to be gross, but the remains could literally just be bone fragments. 

it was a gross question, so no worries!

i don't know what i was imagining happened. obviously the remains didn't collapse into themselves like a dying star but i guess my imagination wasn't going in a logical direction

[mcsangel2]

Oct 11, 2023 8:02:34 GMT -5 aurora said:

How did they find this but not the (much larger) MH 370?

Because they knew where the submersible had been and roughly where to look. Not sure you understand how vast the Pacific Indian Ocean is? It's like looking for a needle in five football stadiums (metaphor posed by one of the scientists).

ETA: edited to correct geography error

[sparkythelawyer]

Oct 11, 2023 9:37:27 GMT -5 kath16 said:

if there are human remains, does that mean that they didn't poof as quickly as originally thought?

I'll be surprised if it is anything larger than biological confetti

[aurora]

Oct 11, 2023 13:03:43 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

Oct 11, 2023 8:02:34 GMT -5 aurora said:

How did they find this but not the (much larger) MH 370?

Because they knew where the submersible had been and roughly where to look. Not sure you understand how vast the Pacific Ocean is? It's like looking for a needle in five football stadiums (metaphor posed by one of the scientists).

Yes. And more to the point for this thread, I also understand how vast the Indian Ocean is, and how hard it is to find things lost at sea.

[mcsangel2]

Oct 11, 2023 17:36:56 GMT -5 aurora said:

Oct 11, 2023 13:03:43 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

Because they knew where the submersible had been and roughly where to look. Not sure you understand how vast the Pacific Ocean is? It's like looking for a needle in five football stadiums (metaphor posed by one of the scientists).

Yes. And more to the point for this thread, I also understand how vast the Indian Ocean is, and how hard it is to find things lost at sea.

Oh my gosh, my error. You are right, it's believed it went down somewhere vaguely to the west of Australia, which would be the Indian Ocean, not the Pacific.

[basilosaurus]

I wish we'd stop labeling our natural curiosities surrounding death. It's not gross to wonder what kind of remains they've found.

Ironically they'll probably cremate what's left and spread it on the ocean they so loved.

Meanwhile, where those find could have been spent...

I'll say it here and to everywhere (really I'll tell nearly everyone) either a green burial or fbi body farm or for some med school students to play catch with my bladder. If I explode in a riches funded burst of stupidity, let me lie there. Even in death these billionaires are taking resources much needed anywhere else