Trump rushed off stage - possible gunshots

[pixy0stix]

I see the trolls are out.

[HRH Queen Dick I]

I know you just want attention Karen but fuck's sake what a waste of oxygen you are.

[pixy0stix]

The news this morning is all about how this wouldn't happen if the Ds weren't yelling about the end of democracy, etc. I'm over the finger wagging. (Other than the jump to conspiracy theories immediately, come the fuck on.) People can feel how they feel about this. I, personally, won't shed a tear when he dies.

[cous0226]



The SS who hovered over him have families. Since the SS f’ed up the they didn’t know if there was more than 1 shooter. So they are trying to get him out of there but as usual he has no regard for human life of people trying to save his life and has to ask about his shoes and get in his fist pumps to incite more violence.

None of this would happened if he had allowed everyone to come in last night with their guns and armor just like he didn’t want medal detectors on Jan 6th. You know the good guys could have protected him.

Any why did the Biden team pause advertising? Are the R’s pausing the convention next week? The Biden team needs to get their shit together with a good plan and move forward. There is no high road to take. We need to win an election.

[pixy0stix]

I'm catching up on reactions - remember during the 2016??? election a lot of the rhetoric the Rs were pushing out was gun related analogies like bullseyes and stuff? They got a lot of heat for it but shrugged it off. Now the Rs are saying Biden called for the hit by saying Trump was in the bullseye (paraphrasing).

Frankly I'm surprised some aren't using their favorite that the Clinton's hired the shooter.

[basilosaurus]

Jul 14, 2024 8:51:27 GMT -5 maudefindlay said:

Jul 14, 2024 8:20:00 GMT -5 springchick32 said:

This is how evil feels

I'll take your word for it as you would know. Majority of us are not advocating violence. We want Trump defeated at the polls, not hurt. At the same time it's maddening that this group is decrying political violence and our Presdent immediately offers a statement of the same, but when people of this group stormed the Capitol on Jan 6th DT told them to keep fighting. We can be pissed at the hypocrisy.

and is still encouraging them to fight as he's hustled off stage complete with first pump

[basilosaurus]

So troll who claims to be apolitical and willfilly ignorant managed to find a political chat board. Yet we're the ones with sad empty lives. Ok Karen

[konapoppy]

I’m surprised by my reaction. I’m just kind of numb.

We are frogs in the boiling pot. Even if some of us are screaming frogs.

[bkseller13]

Jay Kuo (political and legal analyst with a substack) pointed out that the Rs are blaming Biden and his "bullseye" quote for this but 5 months ago, Alex Jones and a guest on Infowars stated that a "Trump assassination would be would be 'so much better for us and so much worse for them' because it would lead to retaliatory in-kind assassinations of a 'deep state' list that included President Joe Biden." That's the part that scares me.

[elleblue]

Jul 14, 2024 11:00:27 GMT -5 bkseller13 said:

Jay Kuo (political and legal analyst with a substack) pointed out that the Rs are blaming Biden and his "bullseye" quote for this but 5 months ago, Alex Jones and a guest on Infowars stated that a "Trump assassination would be would be 'so much better for us and so much worse for them' because it would lead to retaliatory in-kind assassinations of a 'deep state' list that included President Joe Biden." That's the part that scares me.

Right. It's a key part of ushering in the accelerationism that they've been hoping for.

For those unfamiliar with the term*:

While originally used by the far-left, the term has, in a manner strongly distinguished from original accelerationist theorists, been used by right-wing extremists such as neo-fascists, neo-Nazis, white nationalists and white supremacists to increasingly refer to an "acceleration" of racial conflict through assassinations, murders and terrorist attacks as a means to violently achieve a white ethnostate.

*from Wikipedia, so bear that in mind

[scout8]

Jul 14, 2024 9:33:56 GMT -5 springchick32 said:

Jul 14, 2024 8:41:44 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

Evil is people telling the Uvalde and Sandy Hook families that they are lying about the brutal murders of their children.

Evil is people denying the humanity of the LGBTQ+ community and supporting police officers who murder Black and brown people.

Evil is taking away a person’s right to determine what to do with their own damn body.

Evil is Trump raping a 13-year old girl, stealing confidential documents and selling out CIA operatives for money, encouraging his supporters to storm the capital, stealing money from people over and over again, pardoning war criminals, separating children from their parents at the border, supporting Russia in all of their myriad abuses, and so much more.

Whey weren’t you here talking about all of those moments of evil? Why are you showing up to this board now? 🤔🤔🤔

I’m not sure why every single human beings thoughts on something can’t be their own. Every one’s thoughts comes from and are influenced by what the political news says and reports. Think of everyone as an individual human being whether they are gay, straight, trans, democrat or republican, it doesn’t matter we are all the same species regardless of these things. . People are so fast to judge everything so try living in an intentional mindset every single day and it will get you further in life with less stress. I hardly watch the news and it doesn’t affect my daily life at all. I go to work, get my check, come home, take car of the house and dogs and spend time with friends and family, travel and do activities. None of this political business stops me from doing what I want to do and accomplish in life everyday. Everyone else can keep running around in circles debating every piece of political news for your whole lives, and it sucks for you. Ignorance is bliss, and I live a very low stress life. Just stay in your own lane, enjoy time with your friends and family, and worry about that because you’ll never know how long they’re going to be around. No time hating, judging and critiquing other people is good for anyone’s health and that will definitely shorten your own life. Have fun debating all this business until November. Lol. Bye ladies. I had a feeling this board would be of entertainment this morning

Also, I challenge you to not watch the news for a whole week. Enjoy your life and see how you feel after that if not, you can go back to the mess of this world.

You are aware that you are posting on the politics board, right?

[dontlook]

I’m personally ok with being called a terrible human and any other names. It’s exhausting having to take the high road at all times. This country is a mess, full stop. The dems staying out of the gutter hasn’t helped us so far. I’ll continue to laugh at all the memes. We are fully in our fuck around and find out era.

[stuffandthings]

Jul 14, 2024 9:33:56 GMT -5 springchick32 said:

Jul 14, 2024 8:41:44 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

Evil is people telling the Uvalde and Sandy Hook families that they are lying about the brutal murders of their children.

Evil is people denying the humanity of the LGBTQ+ community and supporting police officers who murder Black and brown people.

Evil is taking away a person’s right to determine what to do with their own damn body.

Evil is Trump raping a 13-year old girl, stealing confidential documents and selling out CIA operatives for money, encouraging his supporters to storm the capital, stealing money from people over and over again, pardoning war criminals, separating children from their parents at the border, supporting Russia in all of their myriad abuses, and so much more.

Whey weren’t you here talking about all of those moments of evil? Why are you showing up to this board now? 🤔🤔🤔

I’m not sure why every single human beings thoughts on something can’t be their own. Every one’s thoughts comes from and are influenced by what the political news says and reports. Think of everyone as an individual human being whether they are gay, straight, trans, democrat or republican, it doesn’t matter we are all the same species regardless of these things. . People are so fast to judge everything so try living in an intentional mindset every single day and it will get you further in life with less stress. I hardly watch the news and it doesn’t affect my daily life at all. I go to work, get my check, come home, take car of the house and dogs and spend time with friends and family, travel and do activities. None of this political business stops me from doing what I want to do and accomplish in life everyday. Everyone else can keep running around in circles debating every piece of political news for your whole lives, and it sucks for you. Ignorance is bliss, and I live a very low stress life. Just stay in your own lane, enjoy time with your friends and family, and worry about that because you’ll never know how long they’re going to be around. No time hating, judging and critiquing other people is good for anyone’s health and that will definitely shorten your own life. Have fun debating all this business until November. Lol. Bye ladies. I had a feeling this board would be of entertainment this morning

Also, I challenge you to not watch the news for a whole week. Enjoy your life and see how you feel after that if not, you can go back to the mess of this world.

Wait. So turning off the news is gonna help me get an abortion if I need one? It’s gonna keep my non-binary kid safe at school? It’s gonna reverse climate change and stop the horrific storms that have been destroying people’s homes?!

Wow, that’s great news, thanks for letting me know!

[jlt19]

Blaming it on Biden sure does sound an awful lot like projection.

[maudefindlay]

Trump also suggested back in 2016 that maybe the 2nd amendment folks could do something about Hillary.

[stuffandthings]

The plot thickens…looks like the shooter donated to a vaguely liberal org in 2021 but then registered as a Republican in 2022 and was wearing a shirt from a pro-gun YouTube channel.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o.amp

[pixy0stix]

Police had contact with shooter just before he took the shots at Trump.

apnews.com/live/election-biden-trump-campaign-updates-07-13-2024#00000190-b27e-dc4e-ab9d-ba7eb1060000

[pixy0stix]

Jul 14, 2024 13:51:46 GMT -5 stuffandthings said:

The plot thickens…looks like the shooter donated to a vaguely liberal org in 2021 but then registered as a Republican in 2022 and was wearing a shirt from a pro-gun YouTube channel.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o.amp

The guy behind Demolition Ranch is a conservative. He's worn "Let's Go Brandon" shirts on his channel, etc.

Also - let's take a moment to laugh at the Rs for saying it's the Ds doing shit when they have literal tshirts saying fuck the president.

[basilosaurus]

Jul 14, 2024 13:51:46 GMT -5 stuffandthings said:

The plot thickens…looks like the shooter donated to a vaguely liberal org in 2021 but then registered as a Republican in 2022 and was wearing a shirt from a pro-gun YouTube channel.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o.amp

not that I was finding at 20, but it was an Ayn Rand phase, and I bought the lie the the best government is one in opposition that did nothing. Of course 25 years ago things were different, but I was also an ignorant young voter who was pretty smart which is a bad combination. I wised up a couple years later. I was never violent though. This is the gen of men/boys highly influenced by the likes of Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, ben Shapiro, Andrew Tate.

Of course we have no idea if that applies to this guy, but it at least fits the demographics.

[AAM2012]

Jul 14, 2024 9:15:44 GMT -5 neverfstop said:

On the ground report- some in the crowd turned and attacked the press

www.axios.com/2024/07/14/what-i-saw-trump-rally-shooting

When the shots began I was standing next to my former Axios colleague Alayna Treene, who's now with CNN. Her security guard forced her down and then ushered her into a space below the media riser.
A few moments later I did the same as the security guard positioned his body over hers, much as Secret Service agents were doing with Trump on the stage. That's when it hit me that we were in danger.
Less than 90 seconds later, we peeked through the riser and emerged to face the anger of Trump supporters, who were turning on the media.
"Fake news! This is your fault!" they yelled. "You're next! Your time is coming. "
A few tried to break into the media area but were stopped by security guards.

The video of Trump getting into his vehicle shows some dude clearly talking towards the camera person saying “fuxk you” over and over with his finger up in the air waiving around.

This report doesn’t surprise me.

[stuffandthings]

Jul 14, 2024 14:45:14 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

Jul 14, 2024 13:51:46 GMT -5 stuffandthings said:

The plot thickens…looks like the shooter donated to a vaguely liberal org in 2021 but then registered as a Republican in 2022 and was wearing a shirt from a pro-gun YouTube channel.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o.amp

not that I was finding at 20, but it was an Ayn Rand phase, and I bought the lie the the best government is one in opposition that did nothing. Of course 25 years ago things were different, but I was also an ignorant young voter who was pretty smart which is a bad combination. I wised up a couple years later. I was never violent though. This is the gen of men/boys highly influenced by the likes of Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, ben Shapiro, Andrew Tate.

Of course we have no idea if that applies to this guy, but it at least fits the demographics.

Although I’m sure it’ll change as more info comes out, my current working theory is that he’s a far right guy who got radicalized on the internet and was actually attempting to kick off a civil war by baiting the Trumpists.

[StrawberryBlondie]

Jul 14, 2024 15:26:14 GMT -5 stuffandthings said:

Jul 14, 2024 14:45:14 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

not that I was finding at 20, but it was an Ayn Rand phase, and I bought the lie the the best government is one in opposition that did nothing. Of course 25 years ago things were different, but I was also an ignorant young voter who was pretty smart which is a bad combination. I wised up a couple years later. I was never violent though. This is the gen of men/boys highly influenced by the likes of Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, ben Shapiro, Andrew Tate.

Of course we have no idea if that applies to this guy, but it at least fits the demographics.

Although I’m sure it’ll change as more info comes out, my current working theory is that he’s a far right guy who got radicalized on the internet and was actually attempting to kick off a civil war by baiting the Trumpists.

I could buy something like this.

[klee23]

Jul 14, 2024 13:51:46 GMT -5 stuffandthings said:

The plot thickens…looks like the shooter donated to a vaguely liberal org in 2021 but then registered as a Republican in 2022 and was wearing a shirt from a pro-gun YouTube channel.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o.amp

Ehh. He donated $15 to ActBlue when he was 17 years old (on the day Biden was inaugurated). He later registered to vote as a Republican when he turned 18 several months later. It's not like he was throwing big money at any political campaign. Not to mention his mother is a registered Dem, dad is a registered Libertarian: maybe the contribution was a reflection on his mother's affiliation. And for PP that asked what "active" voter status means- just that his voting history has not been dormant long enough to be purged from voter rolls. Considering his age, I don't think he would be able to be inactive but reports indicate he did vote in 2022 midterms. I think it's too soon to make assumptions on his thought process. 

[klee23]

www.wtae.com/article/trump-rally-shooting-gunman-thomas-crooks-explosives/61591358

Local news reporting concern for explosives or "bomb making materials" in his vehicle and home- items that appeared to look like grenades. County bomb squad at his home all night and currently awaiting forensics. Gun was legally purchased by his father.

The victims have been named. The man who passed away was a 50 year old male from Butler County. The other two (57M and 74M) remain hospitalized but upgraded to stable condition.

A local police officer climbed the ladder prior to the shooting to investigate witness reports of a gunman- Crooks pointed his gun at the officer who then retreated to a safer position and then Crooks quickly turned and began shooting.

www.wpxi.com/news/national/local-officer-encountered-gunman-just-before-he-shot-toward-trump-rally-sources-tell-ap/AHR5RCCI45GMPJKD7QQC2BPPSM/

[basilosaurus]

Jul 14, 2024 15:26:14 GMT -5 stuffandthings said:

Jul 14, 2024 14:45:14 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

not that I was finding at 20, but it was an Ayn Rand phase, and I bought the lie the the best government is one in opposition that did nothing. Of course 25 years ago things were different, but I was also an ignorant young voter who was pretty smart which is a bad combination. I wised up a couple years later. I was never violent though. This is the gen of men/boys highly influenced by the likes of Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, ben Shapiro, Andrew Tate.

Of course we have no idea if that applies to this guy, but it at least fits the demographics.

Although I’m sure it’ll change as more info comes out, my current working theory is that he’s a far right guy who got radicalized on the internet and was actually attempting to kick off a civil war by baiting the Trumpists.

the thought definitely crossed my mind, I won't lie. But with zero evidence I don't want to speculate too much

[neverfstop]

I’m surprised we don’t have more info about shooter- messages or social media.

Trump did recently tweak the GOP platform on abortion and gay rights, which some people were upset by. And then there not much support for 2A. reason.com/2024/07/10/the-2024-gop-platform-offers-only-a-passing-reference-to-the-second-amendment/


Looks like lots of people saw the shooter ahead of time & there was even an officer climbing the ladder to his position. I’m shocked that that the roof wasn’t secured. How did this kid manage to come up with this plan and get lucky enough to bypass security protocols???

[mrspez07]

I’ve thought (in this political climate especially) that the political spectrum isn’t linear but a circle, and far left and far right may not be that different.

Also, a lot of views and ideas change between 18-26, I know mine certainly did.

[basilosaurus]

Jul 14, 2024 16:45:34 GMT -5 mrspez07 said:

I’ve thought (in this political climate especially) that the political spectrum isn’t linear but a circle, and far left and far right may not be that different.

Also, a lot of views and ideas change between 18-26, I know mine certainly did.

the circle has always been the case on certain issues. I think specifically of vaccines because that's one thing I've been passionate about for ages, since at least she 15 when I met first non vaccine family (a cabin mate in summer camp).

[jlt19]

*I’M* probably projecting here because I was, at one time, halfway through the process of joining the SS and I’m one degree of separation from an agent that’s been with him forever, but FUCK HIM for not ducking and rushing off that stage.

He stalled out to put his fist in the air for a photo op, forcing them to be living shields for far longer than was necessary.

[underwaterrhymes]

Jul 14, 2024 17:41:03 GMT -5 jlt19 said:

*I’M* probably projecting here because I was, at one time, halfway through the process of joining the SS and I’m one degree of separation from an agent that’s been with him forever, but FUCK HIM for not ducking and rushing off that stage.

He stalled out to put his fist in the air for a photo op, forcing them to be living shields for far longer than was necessary.

He’s golfing today and has already had t-shirts made of him with his fist in the air. Fucking gross. Meanwhile, Biden halted ads as he did when Trump had COVID out of respect.