I really don't think the school is banning braids because of a bible passage - even as a religious school. I wonder if its a classist thing though - they see braids as a lower-class hairstyle or maybe just casual? I always suspect snootiness with the Brits.
Post by iammalcolmx on May 24, 2012 12:40:04 GMT -5
I have a serious question AW. No shade but can you describe an experience or two in which someone thought you were a Muslim? I am very interested in the details or these interactions
Also, I don't think all homeschool parents are hiding their kids from the world. However, you've made it clear in many of your posts that you homeschool to keep your kids away from anything of which you don't approve.
There are many types of homeschoolers so no, I'm not judging you for being a homeschooler. I am, however, taking into consideration your own words and deciding what kind of homeschooler you are.
Ok it is so asinine that someone on here is saying that this little girl look's like a hooker. This has got to be a joke. We as adult's make thing's sexual not are children. FWIW she does have a brat's doll on the front of her shirt so it is a Bratz outfit. My girl's never really got into the Bratz thing but if they did it would be fine.
If you don't like leopard that is fine but don't project you sexual issues on to a little girl.
I dress my 10 month old in leopard--so what you are saying is I am sexualizing my child---yeah that makes sense!
Rules are rules.
I will rock leopard all damn day love it and I love her hair if I could do it I would do it for my girls.
Some beliefs are core to what it is to be a Christian. Yanno, like the whole Jesus dying on the cross/raising from the dead business. The rest is actually pretty optional. Even Jesus himself said so. Love God, love others. Whammo bammo.
This is the beauty of Christianity. Everyone has their own interpretation. That is not mine entirely.
I'm not going to argue with you about this anymore. We're clear where we both stand.
As for why I do not wear my headscarf in a hijab fashion anymore. Yes, I felt threatened by people when I wore it in public like that. It's not that anyone said anything, but the looks were enough. It made me empathize with the Muslim women who have to deal with that treatment living in my part of the world. I have the option to wear a different style, so I chose something else not only because of the potential safety issues, but also because it isn't effective witnessing for Christ to appear as a Muslim.
I don't care, AW. I think you're an awful person and I think you cloak it in religious fervor. And it disgusts me.
I've simply had enough and I can no longer explain away your asshattery.
You're gross and you're offensive and what's worse, not only do you not care, but you think you've been ordered by God to behave accordingly. Oh and you think anyone who disagrees is going against God. Yeah, that's awesome.
I don't care, AW. I think you're an awful person and I think you cloak it in religious fervor. And it disgusts me.
I've simply had enough and I can no longer explain away your asshattery.
You're gross and you're offensive and what's worse, not only do you not care, but you think you've been ordered by God to behave accordingly. Oh and you think anyone who disagrees is going against God. Yeah, that's awesome.
I'm very sorry that this is the way you view me, especially as a sister in Christ. All I can do is apoligize for whatever it is I have said or done that makes me so awful in your eyes. I honestly do not feel like I am intentionally offensive or ordered by God to be that way.
I never said anyone that disagrees with me is going against God. I think that your own insecurities may be at play here. I feel like I always try to make it prefectly clear that this is just what I believe. I think that in this thread I already said several times that different people interpret Scripture differently. I've posted many times on here the ways in which I disagree with other posters of faith - take 2V, for example. I disagree with her on a lot (we were disagreeing in a post just yesterday), but in the end I feel she is doing what God wants of her and I view her as a sister in Christ. I view you the same way.
God hasn't different rules for himself and his people.
Why was it OK for God to have certain people throughout the Bible murder others, but then tells us not to do it? Why was it OK for God to destroy the earth during the flood, but we are told it is wrong for us to be destructive?
Throughout history God used His people, and even their sin, for His own good. He is allowed to because He's God, that's why.
And it's not just "timmy's" word that is bond. There are references to women remaining modest and not focusing on outward beauty (to the point that it is self-serving) throughout both the NT and OT, as well as the many oral traditions passed down through Judaism and Christianity.
This.....really doesn't put god in a good light. The mental image I get is of god having a temper tantrum screaming "Because I'm god that's why!!". And frankly as an Athiest that seems pretty accurate.
I usually hear 2 voices in my head when AW posts.
The first is when she is talking about cooking or how great she or her family is and then I hear a voice that's kinda:
Then the other is when she "explains the bible" to everyone and then I hear something like its coming from:
Come on Sugr, you have had your share of eyebrow raising posts around these parts as well.
Indeed.
Sug - Calling aw out specifically for being a little multiple personalityish is particuarly rich coming from you. Might want to be aware of that. Glass houses and such.
The little girl is a less extreme incident, obviously in comparison to what actually happened to Trayvon Martin. However, should black boys not walk around in hoodies for fear of being shot and killed? It's as ludicrous as saying that wearing sparkles and leopard makes her an easy target for rape, or selling herself on the corner.
It's your fault for hiding behind scripture to maintain your prudish stereotypes of girls that don't dress like you do. It's not a far stretch to think that those under your influence might see a rape victim one day and think, she's dressed like a hooker in those leopard pumps. She should have avoided the stereotype and the whole thing could have been avoided. She did look like a hooker. psssh.
So much this. This is why it is absolutely not ok to avoid stereotypes. You end up reinforcing the stereotypes of others. Much more damaging than dressing to avoid inspiring infidelity or distraction, imo. I'm sorry you felt threatened, aw, but I do think that altering your dress reinforces the anti-Muslim stereotype by creating an 'us-not-them' dichotomy. Maybe as an atheist I'm off base, but I dont think Christ would begrudge solidarity of the faithful or support for those unfairly judged.
Please, you know as well as I do that we can be sisters in Christ and still not be good people. Forgiveness =/= not still a sinner.
I have my own issues. I own them and I accept them. I'm just not sure you do. Good thing God doesn't differentiate.
And sugr, I might be dying at your posts because that's totally how I go. I'm all, awww, let's talk about canning and then not even a full day later I'm all, OMG, WHY DOES SHE SAY SUCH THINGS!!!
Come on Sugr, you have had your share of eyebrow raising posts around these parts as well.
Indeed.
Sug - Calling aw out specifically for being a little multiple personalityish is particuarly rich coming from you. Might want to be aware of that. Glass houses and such.
Yeah but I have an excuse as a libra. It balances me out.
I totally agree with Sibil about no one wearing leopard print.
::Furiously clings to my leopard flats, pumps, scarf, tops::
You can't make me give 'em up!!!
Smo, you probably make that stuff look good.
My opinion may be somewhat colored by a lady I saw a while back wearing now less than four leopard print items and accessories in varying patterns at the same time.
NOT ONLY THAT, but also semi consciously adopting the fake Jewishness bullcrap so many fundies do, imho to glom onto the "I am a victim" mentality. It chaps my hide and burns my toast.
Yup and how lucky for her that her dictates are personal so she can just switch them up when she's feeling lumped in with the wrong persecuted group?
Too bad Trayvon couldn't have easily changed his skin color. Because let's be honest, a white kid in a hoodie would still be eating skittles and drinking iced tea.
I'm not attempting a recap, but an updo involves a lot of bobby pins and hairspray. It probably takes 15-20 min to be removed, then has to be washed. I doubt you could brush it out im the time available.
ETA: I cant join you on the 'fake jew' train. We were always taught that most Jewish observances were ok, since it was the foundation religion. They are simply no longer requirements.
Also, has someone covered why she couldn't just un-bow her hair for the picture? Did she have to be excluded entirely? That seems harsh.
normal back and forth re: rules are rules, rules are unclear, dad is a douche.
wawa and others: Also her outfit is tacky.
aw: and also hookery. and god said no braids.
everybody else: Hooker? really? wtf?
aw: see, it's like with trayvon and that hoodie. (also theological sidebars on braids)
LOUD NOISES.
the end.
And no, actually, nobody has asked why she coudln't just take it out. That would have been very reasonable. I'm going to guess that she had a 4 year old meltdown and refused, but that's just a guess.
Also, has someone covered why she couldn't just un-bow her hair for the picture? Did she have to be excluded entirely? That seems harsh.
Hairdresser AW of a Dad send girl to school violating hair standards and can't get picture taken as a result. Poor girl
They knew about the dress code
The hair is cute
They don’t’ allow braids
No black kids go to this school
Black kid is on the homepage of the schools website
Black people don’t have to wear braids
Braids are easy
Braids are not very Christian , the kid looks like a hooker, Trayvon Martin was sending a message with his hoodie
What the fuck does Trayvon have to do this this?
Society has sterotypes deal with them
People started quitting AW
HAB handed AW her ass
AW knows what discrimination feels like because she used to cover her head but stopped because (1) Her safety was being threatned because they thought she was Muslim (2) It’s not good to represent Christ and have folks mistake you for a Muslim