Sd saga continues

[sparkythelawyer]

Apr 1, 2013 7:19:21 GMT -5 smock said:

Apr 1, 2013 5:29:51 GMT -5 tillie said:

Many atheists expect everyone to understand their "religion" but refuse to give other people the same common courtesy.

What, exactly, do you mean by this?

And WTF tillie?  That's ridiculous.

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Apr 1, 2013 5:29:51 GMT -5 tillie said:

Didn't read all of the replys. However, what 13 year old really can make a rational decision at that age? I can understand the angst in this situation.

Also, I don't understand how atheists feel they can understand how important religion is to other people. Many atheists expect everyone to understand their "religion" but refuse to give other people the same common courtesy.

Obviously you didn't read all the replies..... Like PP's have said many atheists were once religious themselves, I being one of them. Cville couldn't have said it any better.

[walterismydog]

I just want to know what your reaction would be if she did something that was actually rebellious. You know, smoke cigs, weed, sneak out, wear naughty clothes, etc.

Your reaction to her GETTING BAPTIZED (like, seriously, the most non-rebellious thing I've ever heard in my damn life) is really intense and quite frankly, strange.

[tulip]

I'm Catholic before you say I can't understand.

Those vows you and your H took? That contract you signed with the Church? Your responsibility to see through. Not your SD, her mother or grandparents.

This is so important to you and your H but you couldn't find one Church or priest who would baptize her?!? Huh??? Those CCD classes are on set days and you couldn't work something into the custody agreement? But your H has full custody? None of this makes sense to me.

[zitiqueen]

Apr 1, 2013 5:29:51 GMT -5 tillie said:

Didn't read all of the replys. However, what 13 year old really can make a rational decision at that age? I can understand the angst in this situation.

Also, I don't understand how atheists feel they can understand how important religion is to other people. Many atheists expect everyone to understand their "religion" but refuse to give other people the same common courtesy.

I thought all of the atheists who posted were coming at it from a "13-year-old girls do rebellious shit all the time to piss off their parents" perspective, not an "I'm an atheist and here's why all people who aren't atheists are stupid" perspective.

But then I read all of the replies instead of jumping to conclusions.

[nomad100]

Apr 1, 2013 11:27:10 GMT -5 tulip said:

This is so important to you and your H but you couldn't find one Church or priest who would baptize her?!? Huh??? Those CCD classes are on set days and you couldn't work something into the custody agreement? But your H has full custody? None of this makes sense to me.

I am sure this is the point where we will hear that there just isn't time during the week because they have other kids in the house.  This was the reason excuse given for why her DH couldn't spend more one on one time with SD. 

The more I read your posts about your SD, the more I think you somehow thrive on all this drama.  You have a SD who has a multitude of issues and you are going to draw a line in the sand over her getting baptised?  Something, that in reality, has NOTHING to do with you.  You know, since faith is a personal decision?
 
You have much more to worry about than a baptism, that may or may not have been done because SD is pissed at her parents. 

ETA:  Like the fact she refuses to talk to her father or her counselor. 

While it is great that SD feels comfortable talking to you, ultimately your DH needs to figure out a way to connect with her. 

[cheeseandcrackers]

i cant believe this thread is still going.
OP, if you have 7 worth of pages where people saying that you are wrong.. you are probably wrong.

[jigsy]

I'll just hop on the train saying that you are taking this way too personally.
I was not raised catholic, but Mormon. My parents are heartbroken that I left the church. I get it, they believe that we will not be able to be together in heaven when we die, so I can see why it upsets them, but I don't believe it and I have to live my life for me.
Faith should be a completely personal experience, you can dictate someone elses beliefs just because it's what you believe. You and your DH will have to accept that not everyone, even your SD, will believe the same way you do.

[malibu]

The choice to believe or not believe in any certain set of religion is not your decision to make for her. It's a personal decision for every individual. Why you seem to think this is a bad thing (hey, she even picked the same God to worship that you do!), is beyond me.

Celebrate with her. Get over your hand wringing over something so competely NOT in your control, court documents or not.

And try to remember that her act of rebelliousness towards you guys - being baptized, for crying out loud, should be seen a blessing, considering she could be out doing drugs, getting pregnant at 13, or making any host of other poor life choices.