SCOTUS rage (@)

[cville]

May 3, 2022 9:24:52 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Biden’s response:

www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/03/statement-by-president-joe-biden-4/

Cool. How about do a law now? Fuck anyone in the Senate who preserves the filibuster over bodily autonomy.

[AJL]

May 3, 2022 9:02:59 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

May 3, 2022 8:49:25 GMT -5 kadams767 said:

Are you concerned at all about a run on the pills and people who actually need them now not being able to obtain them if they end up being stockpiled?  I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I've seen some things online about generally NOT doing this en masse right now.

I wouldn’t stock pile plan b (or Ella) or birth control.
However, ordering medication abortion pills from an online pharmacy likely isn’t a problem. There are so many pharmacies and they ship worldwide that I think supply is ok.
During the pandemic worse parts it was harder to get mifepristone due to flights cancelled but you can do a medication. Abortion with misoprostol only.
I’m not saying everyone should buy mife and miso now, especially if you’re privileged and/or can’t get pregnant, but share the information with others so they have accurate info that pills can be bought online and if you don’t use them right away they’re still effective for a couple years.

It is in my state. It is illegal to get medical abortion medication through the mail in Texas.

We also can't get an abortion after six weeks here or in Oklahoma or Louisiana. Our options are to go to New Mexico, Arkansas, or Colorado. 

[wanderingback]

May 3, 2022 11:42:10 GMT -5 AJL said:

May 3, 2022 9:02:59 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

I wouldn’t stock pile plan b (or Ella) or birth control.
However, ordering medication abortion pills from an online pharmacy likely isn’t a problem. There are so many pharmacies and they ship worldwide that I think supply is ok.
During the pandemic worse parts it was harder to get mifepristone due to flights cancelled but you can do a medication. Abortion with misoprostol only.
I’m not saying everyone should buy mife and miso now, especially if you’re privileged and/or can’t get pregnant, but share the information with others so they have accurate info that pills can be bought online and if you don’t use them right away they’re still effective for a couple years.

It is in my state. It is illegal to get medical abortion medication through the mail in Texas.

We also can't get an abortion after six weeks here or in Oklahoma or Louisiana. Our options are to go to New Mexico, Arkansas, or Colorado. 

Just like people order medications from other countries because it is cheaper, you can also order medication abortion pills from online pharmacies.
Yes, it could be legally risky. Unfortunately, pregnancy outcomes in general are criminalized.
However, it is 100% possible to order medication abortion pills from online pharmacies and it is medically safe to do so. 
www.plancpills.org/guide has a lot of information
www.aidaccess.org is also another good source that ships pills to all 50 states and US territories.

ETA: here's another good resource for self-managed abortion and ordering pills: abortiononourownterms.org

This is why it's good to share this information so there's accurate information out there. Ordering pills online is still an option and will continue to be so. For discussion on legal risks for your specific situation go to www.reprolegalhelpline.org

ETA more: I'm not a lawyer, but the law in TX against mailing medication abortion pills is a law against the prescriber, not against the person taking the pills. But online pharmacies and organizations such as aid access have continued to mail pills to Texas and other locations around the world with restrictive abortion laws. My understanding is that it's very hard to regulate so ordering abortion pills online from online pharmacies (typically from overseas) will continue to be possible as it's been going on for many years now and in other parts of the world where abortion is illegal. So just wanted to clarify that. 

[relationshipae]

May 3, 2022 8:28:20 GMT -5 ssmjlm said:

underwaterrhymes , completely agree transportation is a huge issue. I'm not too far from DC, so I was thinking I can put my $ to places that are working to assist in transport.

I give regularly to The Brigid Alliance - brigidalliance.org/ 

They partner with other funds and clinics and focus solely on transportation, lodging, childcare, and other arrangements needed to get pregnant people safely to abortion providers. 

[5kcandlesinthewind]

May 3, 2022 11:39:52 GMT -5 cville said:

May 3, 2022 9:24:52 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Biden’s response:

www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/03/statement-by-president-joe-biden-4/

Cool. How about do a law now? Fuck anyone in the Senate who preserves the filibuster over bodily autonomy.

And expand. the. FUCKING. court. You can pass all the laws you want, but they're just going to get kicked up to this garbage SCOTUS. Court reform is legit the way out of this. But, you know. They won't. Because they're (mostly) feckless cowards.

If you haven't seen the video of Elizabeth Warren yelling about all this, I highly recommend it.

[AJL]

May 3, 2022 11:47:37 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

May 3, 2022 11:42:10 GMT -5 AJL said:

It is in my state. It is illegal to get medical abortion medication through the mail in Texas.

We also can't get an abortion after six weeks here or in Oklahoma or Louisiana. Our options are to go to New Mexico, Arkansas, or Colorado. 

Just like people order medications from other countries because it is cheaper, you can also order medication abortion pills from online pharmacies.
Yes, it could be legally risky. Unfortunately, pregnancy outcomes in general are criminalized.
However, it is 100% possible to order medication abortion pills from online pharmacies and it is medically safe to do so. 
www.plancpills.org/guide has a lot of information
www.aidaccess.org is also another good source that ships pills to all 50 states and US territories.

ETA: here's another good resource for self-managed abortion and ordering pills: abortiononourownterms.org

This is why it's good to share this information so there's accurate information out there. Ordering pills online is still an option and will continue to be so. For discussion on legal risks for your specific situation go to www.reprolegalhelpline.org

ETA more: I'm not a lawyer, but the law in TX against mailing medication abortion pills is a law against the prescriber, not against the person taking the pills. But online pharmacies and organizations such as aid access have continued to mail pills to Texas and other locations around the world with restrictive abortion laws. My understanding is that it's very hard to regulate so ordering abortion pills online from online pharmacies (typically from overseas) will continue to be possible as it's been going on for many years now and in other parts of the world where abortion is illegal. So just wanted to clarify that. 

Thank you!! This is so helpful and not surprisingly a lot of us here in TX are confused and upset about how our state limits abortion access. I appreciate your knowledge and you sharing it with us!

[msmerymac]

Fuck Roberts.

To paraphrase: "Oh, yes, that draft is real, but the ACTUAL problem is the EGREGIOUS breach of TRUST that has occurred because of this leak!!!"

www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-roe-wade-leak-investigation-roberts-153559730.html

[omgzombies]

May 3, 2022 9:24:52 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Biden’s response:

www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/03/statement-by-president-joe-biden-4/

That is such a milquetoast response.  I'm admittedly in a bad mood today, but COME ON.

[Patsy Baloney]

Old Catholic prez gonna old Catholic.

I really appreciate all the information sharing in this thread.

[isabel]

May 3, 2022 12:31:00 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Fuck Roberts.

To paraphrase: "Oh, yes, that draft is real, but the ACTUAL problem is the EGREGIOUS breach of TRUST that has occurred because of this leak!!!"

www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-roe-wade-leak-investigation-roberts-153559730.html

The confirmation that this is legitimate sunk me. I mean, I figured it was, but oof.

[wildrice]

I am really considering going down to the supreme court tonight to protest. Anyone want to join me? rubytue Vespasia Bernadine wawa I am forgetting who else is around DC but I know there are a bunch of us.

[Deleted]

May 2, 2022 21:12:44 GMT -5 dancingirl21 said:

I felt really hopeless when I read about this earlier. Like we are going backwards. Then my state rep posted this, and it made me realize we need these local elections so much. We need to get angry, and organized.

I'm so worried the infight in this district is going to hand it to a R ☹️

[mildop]

May 3, 2022 13:08:00 GMT -5 @darkangel said:

May 2, 2022 21:12:44 GMT -5 dancingirl21 said:

I felt really hopeless when I read about this earlier. Like we are going backwards. Then my state rep posted this, and it made me realize we need these local elections so much. We need to get angry, and organized.

I'm so worried the infight in this district is going to hand it to a R ☹️

This isn’t my district, but I’ve seen a lot of what’s going on lately in it locally. It felt like such a success that he was elected, and I agree with your concern.

[aspentosh]

Thank you to everyone sharing info and places to donate money. Donating is the only thing that is keeping me together at this moment.

[neverfstop]

Also, still, forever...Fuck susan collins

talkingpointsmemo.com/news/susan-collins-brett-kavanaugh-neil-gorsuch-abortion-roe-strike-supreme-court-scotus

Collins, one of the few pro-choice Senate Republicans, put out a statement tsk-tsking at the two justices on Tuesday after the leak of a bombshell majority draft opinion.....

[dancingirl21]

May 3, 2022 13:12:42 GMT -5 mildop said:

May 3, 2022 13:08:00 GMT -5 @darkangel said:

I'm so worried the infight in this district is going to hand it to a R ☹️

This isn’t my district, but I’ve seen a lot of what’s going on lately in it locally. It felt like such a success that he was elected, and I agree with your concern.

Totally. No one can get on the same page between him and Newman. It’s not going to be good. We are not going to be a part of his district any longer, actually. The way the new map is drawn we will be part of the new District 3. I fear for the 6th, though. They cannot hand it back to an R after just getting it to go D with Casten.

[Velar Fricative]

May 3, 2022 13:40:07 GMT -5 neverfstop said:

Also, still, forever...Fuck susan collins

talkingpointsmemo.com/news/susan-collins-brett-kavanaugh-neil-gorsuch-abortion-roe-strike-supreme-court-scotus

Collins, one of the few pro-choice Senate Republicans, put out a statement tsk-tsking at the two justices on Tuesday after the leak of a bombshell majority draft opinion.....

But that's not what Kavanaugh told her in her office!! Because people never lie to get to the top!!

[DotAndBuzz]

May 3, 2022 13:40:07 GMT -5 neverfstop said:

Also, still, forever...Fuck susan collins

talkingpointsmemo.com/news/susan-collins-brett-kavanaugh-neil-gorsuch-abortion-roe-strike-supreme-court-scotus

Collins, one of the few pro-choice Senate Republicans, put out a statement tsk-tsking at the two justices on Tuesday after the leak of a bombshell majority draft opinion.....

I'm sure she's "concerned."

[wawa]

May 3, 2022 13:07:07 GMT -5 wildrice said:

I am really considering going down to the supreme court tonight to protest. Anyone want to join me? rubytue Vespasia Bernadine wawa I am forgetting who else is around DC but I know there are a bunch of us.

I'm on sick kid duty, but hit me up if you go again.  

[Deleted]

May 3, 2022 13:12:42 GMT -5 mildop said:

May 3, 2022 13:08:00 GMT -5 @darkangel said:

I'm so worried the infight in this district is going to hand it to a R ☹️

This isn’t my district, but I’ve seen a lot of what’s going on lately in it locally. It felt like such a success that he was elected, and I agree with your concern.

Losing Roskam was the best day and a hard won fight. I'll admit he wasn't my first choice but I've been happy he won. This all now is just getting ugly and going to give the R all the ammo they need to come for whoever wins.

[Deleted]

May 3, 2022 13:40:12 GMT -5 dancingirl21 said:

May 3, 2022 13:12:42 GMT -5 mildop said:

This isn’t my district, but I’ve seen a lot of what’s going on lately in it locally. It felt like such a success that he was elected, and I agree with your concern.

Totally. No one can get on the same page between him and Newman. It’s not going to be good. We are not going to be a part of his district any longer, actually. The way the new map is drawn we will be part of the new District 3. I fear for the 6th, though. They cannot hand it back to an R after just getting it to go D with Casten.

I got moved out too and I'm 4 now. But have been so involved in 6 and knowing how hard we fought and now watching this. It makes me ill seeing everything. Back when he won it seemed even though there were so many people supporting diff candidates (8 or something) everyone seemed to rally behind Casten when he won. I don't see that happening this time.

[5kcandlesinthewind]

May 3, 2022 13:40:07 GMT -5 neverfstop said:

Also, still, forever...Fuck susan collins

talkingpointsmemo.com/news/susan-collins-brett-kavanaugh-neil-gorsuch-abortion-roe-strike-supreme-court-scotus

Collins, one of the few pro-choice Senate Republicans, put out a statement tsk-tsking at the two justices on Tuesday after the leak of a bombshell majority draft opinion.....

I sincerely hope Amy Klobuchar throws a stapler at her head when she sees her.

[jaylea]

May 3, 2022 13:40:07 GMT -5 neverfstop said:

Also, still, forever...Fuck susan collins

talkingpointsmemo.com/news/susan-collins-brett-kavanaugh-neil-gorsuch-abortion-roe-strike-supreme-court-scotus

Collins, one of the few pro-choice Senate Republicans, put out a statement tsk-tsking at the two justices on Tuesday after the leak of a bombshell majority draft opinion.....

I wish you all could have heard the message my husband left with her staff member today. I was cracking up. One snippet is that she is either the dumbest human on the face of the earth or an absolute liar if her claim is that she didn’t think anti-choice judges would seek to overturn Roe V Wade, and that she should have listened to her constituents who pleaded with her to not vote for their confirmation because we all knew this would happen. And then more commentary, and then he asked her staff to confirm they would relay that message, and they confirmed they would.

I’m shocked the phone wasn’t off the hook like it usually is. She is the WORST.

[redheadbaker]

Two of the GOP candidates (Mastriano and White) for PA Governor also support total abortion bans with no exceptions, not even for the life of ther mother.

wskg.org/pennsylvanias-gop-gubernatorial-frontrunners-want-no-abortion-no-mail-voting-and-lots-of-fracking/

[MixedBerryJam]

May 2, 2022 20:45:45 GMT -5 smock said:

May 2, 2022 20:24:24 GMT -5 mouse said:

I seriously feel like my government just decided that I’m not fully human.

The draft says abortion rights are not "deeply rooted in history." But telling Americans they aren't fully human absolutely is. Which is horrific.

And plus, this has been a right for the entire lifespan thus far of most of the people most affected by this very incorrect decision.


And plus also Mike Braun (A-IN) has already gone on the record saying interracial marriage should be left to the states.

[isabel]

May 3, 2022 16:52:19 GMT -5 MixedBerryJam said:

And plus also Mike Braun (A-IN) has already gone on the record saying interracial marriage should be left to the states.

Wow. Just… wow.

[winecat]

May 3, 2022 16:52:19 GMT -5 MixedBerryJam said:

May 2, 2022 20:45:45 GMT -5 smock said:

The draft says abortion rights are not "deeply rooted in history." But telling Americans they aren't fully human absolutely is. Which is horrific.

And plus, this has been a right for the entire lifespan thus far of most of the people most affected by this very incorrect decision.


And plus also Mike Braun (A-IN) has already gone on the record saying interracial marriage should be left to the states.

14th Amendment rights are at risk.   

[rubytue]

May 3, 2022 13:07:07 GMT -5 wildrice said:

I am really considering going down to the supreme court tonight to protest. Anyone want to join me? rubytue Vespasia Bernadine wawa I am forgetting who else is around DC but I know there are a bunch of us.

FWIW, I’ve been getting emails all day (womens march, I think) about going to local courthouses. I was at the office today and just got home. 

[winecat]

Mother's Day Strike: www.mothersdaystrike.com/about

[wildrice]

I am on the train on the way back from the protest at the supreme court. I am horrible at guessing the number of people in any given place, but I would guess a couple of thousand? Maybe?

Tons of young people. At almost 40, I felt like I was older than most. That is both heartening and frustrating... Why are old men making decisions that mostly affect people much younger than them?

I couldn't hear everything, but I think the main protest was led almost completely by black women.